Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Read Mod Warning in OP 7/1/15

MagicIRL · 16-02-2015 09:47PM

Fuhrer wrote: »

Replace Mata or Herrara with Fellani and it would be more likely

McNair for Valencia too please. Tony V was atrocious tonight.

adox · 16-02-2015 09:49PM

jayo26 wrote: »

Rooney was only offside if he touched the ball or was in thebkeepers line of vision so by all rules he wasn't offside. Remember two year ago I cant remember the opposition player involved but johny Evans ended up scoring an own goal because there was an offside player and he thought he was going to hit it but he didn't and so he wasn't counted as offside. But Rooney did dive for peno I agree

He is interfering with play IMO. If he's not there the keeper saves it easily. Has to delay his decision before committing to the ball because he's aware of Rooney being there.

The Moldy Gowl · 16-02-2015 09:50PM

adox wrote: »

He is interfering with play IMO. If he's not there the keeper saves it easily. Has to delay his decision before committing to the ball because he's aware of Rooney being there.

The keepers inability to make a decision dosent mean he is offside

Timmyctc · 16-02-2015 09:51PM

adox wrote: »

He is interfering with play IMO. If he's not there the keeper saves it easily. Has to delay his decision before committing to the ball because he's aware of Rooney being there.

It doesn't matter what your opinion is though tbf. You're wrong. He wasn't interfering with play. The keeper doesn't have to delay his decision.

adox · 16-02-2015 09:51PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

The keepers inability to make a decision dosent mean he is offside

If Rooney is interfering with play then he's offside.

WallyGUFC · 16-02-2015 09:52PM

adox wrote: »

If Rooney is interfering with play then he's offside.

But he's not. He doesn't touch the ball and isn't in keepers eye-line. End of.

adox · 16-02-2015 09:53PM

Timmyctc wrote: »

It doesn't matter what your opinion is though tbf. You're wrong. He wasn't interfering with play. The keeper doesn't have to delay his decision.

Well I think he was interfering with play and it is open to interpretation, so "it doesn't matter what your opinion is. You're wrong." Is a moot point.

Quandary · 16-02-2015 09:53PM

The match thread is quite simply delicious

adox · 16-02-2015 09:54PM

WallyGUFC wrote: »

But he's not. He doesn't touch the ball and isn't in keepers eye-line. End of.

You think the keeper doesn't see Rooney?

Headshot · 16-02-2015 09:55PM

Di Maria is going to take time to settle in. With the injury and the lack of confidence, its just going to take time for him. Also factor in a new league and country, he's going to find it hard.

Next season will be big for him.

WallyGUFC · 16-02-2015 09:55PM

adox wrote: »

You think the keeper doesn't see Rooney?

He sees him, but Rooney isn't in the line of vision between ball and keeper. He's off to the right hand side. It's the keeper's fault he didn't react in time.

Timmyctc · 16-02-2015 09:56PM

adox wrote: »

Well I think he was interfering with play and it is open to interpretation, so "it doesn't matter what your opinion is. You're wrong." Is a moot point.

Hahaha. Its not a moot point buddy. Its a rule. If the player is offside and doesn't touch the ball he is only interfering with play if he is directly obscuring a defending players eye line. Rooney was off to the right of the keeper. Simon Grayson, the manager of the losing team, just admitted it wasn't offside.

The Moldy Gowl · 16-02-2015 09:56PM

Yeah the keeper sees him. Rooney just stands there. If he moves, he is offside. He knew what was happening, the keeper didn't, it's the difference between the 2 players, the intelligence of play

Hococop · 16-02-2015 09:56PM

adox wrote: »

You think the keeper doesn't see Rooney?

He Sees Rooney thinking he will tap it in, he does nothing and causes the delayed reaction not offside Preston manager even said it was the right call

irishfeen · 16-02-2015 10:01PM

Time for a Fellani/Rooney partnership up front??

advertsfox · 16-02-2015 10:02PM

Eh what's with all the Valencia hate? He played very well I thought, bar 1 poor pass across our defense.

adox · 16-02-2015 10:04PM

He's interfering with play. It was offside IMO.

Saying your opinion doesn't matter, it's the rules, calling me buddy etc isn't going to make your point any more valid.

It's open to interpretation and he is interfering with play.

Timmyctc · 16-02-2015 10:08PM

adox wrote: »

He's interfering with play. It was offside IMO.

Saying your opinion doesn't matter, it's the rules, calling me buddy etc isn't going to make your point any more valid.

It's open to interpretation and he is interfering with play.

16-02-2015 10:09PM

advertsfox wrote: »

Eh what's with all the Valencia hate? He played very well I thought, bar 1 poor pass across our defense.

Yeah he's been good the last few games. I don't think he's that bad defensively now though he's had a few shockers in that regard in the past. As a right back his offensive limitations don't bother me as much either.

Mars Bar · 16-02-2015 10:10PM

He isn't obstructing the goalkeepers view. He's not interfering.

adox · 16-02-2015 10:11PM

Timmyctc wrote: »

Well done.

secman · 16-02-2015 10:15PM

adox wrote: »

He's interfering with play. It was offside IMO.

Saying your opinion doesn't matter, it's the rules, calling me buddy etc isn't going to make your point any more valid.

It's open to interpretation and he is interfering with play.

How was he interfering with play, he didn't move to the ball, he stood feet firmly planted to the ground, made no effort to play the ball, whilst he is an offside position once he stands still... no interference. ... ergo no offside decision......

niallo27 · 16-02-2015 10:17PM

secman wrote: »

How was he interfering with play, he didn't move to the ball, he stood feet firmly planted to the ground, made no effort to play the ball, whilst he is an offside position once he stands still... no interference. ... ergo no offside decision......

In fairness he does move his body out of the way of the ball. It's not as simple as saying he stands still.

16-02-2015 10:18PM

I'd be angry if the goal was given the other way I think.

Timmyctc · 16-02-2015 10:19PM

secman wrote: »

How was he interfering with play, he didn't move to the ball, he stood feet firmly planted to the ground, made no effort to play the ball, whilst he is an offside position once he stands still... no interference. ... ergo no offside decision......

niallo27 wrote: »

In fairness he does move his body out of the way of the ball. It's not as simple as saying he stands still.

Whether or not he moves isn't actually the issue. He just needs to obscure the Keeper's view of the ball. Which he didn't do. The Keeper thought he was onside and that he might play the ball. That's the Keeper's fault. (not that its necessary a massive fault)

secman · 16-02-2015 10:20PM

niallo27 wrote: »

In fairness he does move his body out of the way of the ball. It's not as simple as saying he stands still.

Arched his body away from ball so as not to interfere with play , keeping his feet planted to the ground. .. intelligent play .....

Kylo Ren · 16-02-2015 10:21PM

"Mr. Young, on behalf of myself and a lot of United fans, I apologise for the abuse you have had to go through. Although much of it was warranted, your performances have improved so much since last year I feel a contract should be awarded to you. And furthermore...ehm, Mr. Young?"

adox · 16-02-2015 10:22PM

secman wrote: »

How was he interfering with play, he didn't move to the ball, he stood feet firmly planted to the ground, made no effort to play the ball, whilst he is an offside position once he stands still... no interference. ... ergo no offside decision......

He is interfering with play because the ball comes directly towards him. He doesn't stand still, he moves his body out of the way to make sure he doesn't touch the ball. His presence there affects the keepers decision making. He couldn't be there in an onside position and so he is interfering with play. If he wasn't in an offside position in the line of the shot. The keeper would have easily saved it.

It was offside IMO.

niallo27 · 16-02-2015 10:23PM

secman wrote: »

Arched his body away from ball so as not to interfere with play , keeping his feet planted to the ground. .. intelligent play .....

So your saying he moved his body out of the way of the ball.

secman · 16-02-2015 10:24PM

Timmyctc wrote: »

Whether or not he moves isn't actually the issue. He just needs to obscure the Keeper's view of the ball. Which he didn't do. The Keeper thought he was onside and that he might play the ball. That's the Keeper's fault. (not that its necessary a massive fault)

Actually does matter that he made no effort or movement towards the ball as the flag would have gone up immediately

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