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Pressures around Church weddings

  • 11-02-2015 10:50AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    How many of you have had a church wedding and actually wanted to have the church wedding? Or were you under pressure from family and parents to have a church wedding?

    For example, I am getting married at the end of this year. I am an Atheist even though I was baptised and confirmed etc. This is before I was able to make my own mind up as to what I wanted to believe. Myself and my partner never go to mass but my partner would have some faith as that is the way they have been brought up.

    We are having a church wedding, and the only reason for this is that my partners parents and family and very very holy, god fearing people that say the rosary every 2nd day etc. It annoys me that we have to go down the church route but if I am honest, the trouble it would cause if we were to have a civil ceremony would not be worth it.

    So, how many of you have been in the same boat and felt you have had to have the church wedding to prevent family war?

    Wedding Ceremony 87 votes

    Had Church wedding and wanted it
    0% 0 votes
    Had Church wedding but didn't want it
    70% 61 votes
    Had Civil Ceremony
    29% 26 votes
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Rosy Posy


    We had a civil ceremony- put the foot down. We gave the same reason as we did for not baptising the kids- if the Christian God really is all he's cracked up to be he'd be pretty peeved by us lying in his sacred house. More respectful to keep it secular imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    I went civil. My reasoning was that it is mine and the wifes special day that I want to remember for ever, on our terms. Any compromise would soil the memory.
    So if my, or her, family did not like how we did our wedding then they can go and ****e. We only invited immediate family and 4 friends to the civil ceremony. Then had the big wedding reception the next day.


  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm going to four weddings this year and none of them are in a church. Although two are in the UK.

    The last church wedding I was at was in a church of Ireland church and I can't remember the last Catholic church wedding I attended, and I've attend a fair few weddings.

    I think, certainly Dublin folk, that the days of church weddings are slowly fading out now that you can get married in a nice hotel rather than a cold registry office (although the one in Dublin 2 is lovely).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    Yeah in a similar boat logik, getting stories of how disappointed granny/father of the bride will be etc etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    At five weddings last year. All churches.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    We got married in the Unitarian Church on Stephen's's's Green.

    Neither of us are religious, but it's a beautiful building and they didn't make a big deal about god in the ceremony.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    We're having a humanist ceremony next year ourselves, I'm not religious but herself would be a tiny bit though she's not fond of the Catholic Church. Our families would be religious in the average way so they don't give a shíte but even if they were heavily devout we still wouldn't do it through the church.

    It's our wedding not the religious folk's and I wouldn't care how much of a stink they kick up, they can stay at home on the wedding day and sulk for all I care.


  • Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've yet to be at a wedding that wasn't a church one and I've been to 3 last year alone. I've 5 weddings this year and only one of the 5 isn't a church wedding (I'm invited as a +1, not one of my own friends) all the rest are full proper weddings. To be honest I expect it wont feel like a wedding really without a church or proper reception in a hotel. I think out of all my friends (male and female) there is only one who may not have a church wedding.

    I'm not married but if/when I do it will be a church wedding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Getting married in May, having a humanist ceremony. One of the absolutes for me was not getting married in a church - I've been a non-believer since before my teens, it would be incredibly hypocritical of me to agree to a church wedding because that's what someone else wanted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Even here in backwards country, where it's more important to go to a funeral to 'be seen' than to pay respects to the deceased, I'd say its about 30-40% civil ceremonies in a hotel or whatever, although a fair few of those would be outsiders taking advantage of our glorious scenery, excellent hospitality and generous exchange rates. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭pinkbear


    I was in a similar position logik, and got married in a church. I don't really regret it though, as it meant the day was much more enjoyable and stress free as I didn't have disappointed / sniping / absent parents and relations making it difficult. Also my deeply religious Dad was afraid I would go straight to hell if I got married in a registry office, and while I could privately scoff at this ridiculous notion, it was very real to him and I couldn't have lived with myself knowing that my Dad was spending years worrying about his beloved daughter being damned for all eternity. But my own kids know that they are welcome to get married on the back of a tractor if they want, I would never interfere!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    To be honest I expect it wont feel like a wedding really without a church or proper reception in a hotel.

    Have you ever been to a civil ceremony? You can customise them all you want with music, singing and the vows etc. If anything they are more special in my opinion as it removes all the God fluff and the entire ceremony is dedicated to you and your partner getting married.

    And you are free to have a reception in a hotel whether you got married in a church or elsewhere! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Not married but always remember my OH's ma saying we would get married in a church because her granny wanted that for her granddaughter.

    Was also the day I decided if we got married it would be a civil ceremony with the bare minimum of people there.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    My wife and myself had a civil ceremony in Sligo and held the reception in the Glasshouse afterwards. Was what we both wanted despite the fuss my own mother kicked up, even when we refused to get a blessing. Neither of us believe in church weddings or god and what not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    pinkbear wrote: »
    I was in a similar position logik, and got married in a church. I don't really regret it though, as it meant the day was much more enjoyable and stress free as I didn't have disappointed / sniping / absent parents and relations making it difficult. Also my deeply religious Dad was afraid I would go straight to hell if I got married in a registry office, and while I could privately scoff at this ridiculous notion, it was very real to him and I couldn't have lived with myself knowing that my Dad was spending years worrying about his beloved daughter being damned for all eternity. But my own kids know that they are welcome to get married on the back of a tractor if they want, I would never interfere!

    Yes, this is how I am feeling towards the whole thing aswell.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    Not married but always remember my OH's ma saying we would get married in a church because her granny wanted that for her granddaughter.

    Was also the day I decided if we got married it would be a civil ceremony with the bare minimum of people there.

    We spent the guts of €2000 for everything from suit, to the dress, the ceremony and meal afterwards, while we only had family and a few friends. No fuss and absolutely painless, which we all enjoyed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    We never contemplated a church wedding. People who allow themselves to be dictated to by parents and cave to pressure to be a hypocrite on their wedding day would want to grow a pair. If our parents had hissy fits because we didn't want a sham of a wedding in a faith we don't practice we'd have told them to get over themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Not married yet but neither of us are religious and its our wedding so would be going down the civil route. Can cut out the boring church stuff, quick ceremony and then onto partying.

    Our parents aren't religious so won't care. Grandparents might but they aren't the ones getting married so I see no reason to plan the wedding around their wishes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    I really, really don't understand why non religious people don't tell their families that anyone who isn't happy with a civil service is welcome to shove their invitation up their arse. Give in on the wedding to keep the peace and you'd damn well better be prepared to capitulate on baptism of kids, communions, confirmations, and finally the kid's weddings too.

    Anyone making snide comments at my wedding will be shown the door.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Itzy wrote: »
    My wife and myself had a civil ceremony in Sligo and held the reception in the Glasshouse afterwards. Was what we both wanted despite the fuss my own mother kicked up, even when we refused to get a blessing. Neither of us believe in church weddings or god and what not.

    I forgot about the pressure to get a blessing!
    My mum 'accepted' that we wanted to get married in the registry office, but she kept on harping on about getting a blessing for about 2 years afterwards.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dog of Tears


    Got married in a church even though I'm a non-believer.
    At the end of the day, I could have been a stubborn prick about it, but I knew the OH wanted a church wedding and her family would have been disappointed if we'd gone civil.

    It's not something I felt strongly enough about to create a fuss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Im getting married in 2 weeks and we are having a civil ceremony in a nice hotel. When we got engaged a few years ago the other half wanted a big church wedding and i didn't. We booked this 7 months ago and couldn't be happier, no bull**** pre marriage course and no religious part to our marriage just the whole day in a nice hotel with nice gardens, close friends, good food and lots of alcohol!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Itzy wrote: »
    We spent the guts of €2000 for everything from suit, to the dress, the ceremony and meal afterwards, while we only had family and a few friends. No fuss and absolutely painless, which we all enjoyed.


    I am talking bare minimum, as in grabbing two witnesses off the street. Although the temptation is always there to just go away for a few days and come back married although the kids make that more difficult.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭desertcircus


    Got married last August in the registry office in Dublin 2 before going for dinner with the 22 people we'd invited. Small, simple and perfect. In saying that, none of our parents are particularly religious, so there was never any real pressure to go down the church route; I like to think we'd have held firm if there had been, but it's impossible to know.

    One thing I will say: the moment you recite your vows and become married, the venue might as well not exist. I can barely remember anything about the ceremony except the smile on my girlfriend's face as she became my wife, and that smile is something I'll never forget.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    Registry office... Only job.. In and out in 10 mins...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I'm going to four weddings this year and none of them are in a church. Although two are in the UK.

    That is going to hurt the pocket



    On the original subject I've always been a fan of Vegas weddings because it gets rid of all the fuss involved with churches.

    Plus I think a photo of her in the dress, me in a purple velvet suit, a pink Cadillac with Korean Elvis at a drive thru chapel would look amazing on a mantelpiece.:)


  • Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Have you ever been to a civil ceremony? You can customise them all you want with music, singing and the vows etc. If anything they are more special in my opinion as it removes all the God fluff and the entire ceremony is dedicated to you and your partner getting married.

    And you are free to have a reception in a hotel whether you got married in a church or elsewhere! :)

    Never been to a civil ceremony, though I am invited to a wedding this year which is a civil ceremony (first and only one for a long while I reckon as all my own friends are going for full church weddings). The reception of which is just in a pub hence my comment on not having a proper reception.

    I personally dont feel like its a wedding without the church and I dont consdier the God aspect "fluff".
    kylith wrote: »
    I really, really don't understand why non religious people don't tell their families that anyone who isn't happy with a civil service is welcome to shove their invitation up their arse.

    Because people aren't c*nts to their families. They love them and and dont want to fall out with them (possibly for life) over a simple thing like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    kylith wrote: »
    I really, really don't understand why non religious people don't tell their families that anyone who isn't happy with a civil service is welcome to shove their invitation up their arse. Give in on the wedding to keep the peace and you'd damn well better be prepared to capitulate on baptism of kids, communions, confirmations, and finally the kid's weddings too.

    Anyone making snide comments at my wedding will be shown the door.

    I know you are right and I agree but it is very hard to put that into practice when you are trying to keep other people happy to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭desertcircus


    Never been to a civil ceremony, though I am invited to a wedding this year which is a civil ceremony (first and only one for a long while I reckon as all my own friends are going for full church weddings). The reception of which is just in a pub hence my comment on not having a proper reception.

    I personally dont feel like its a wedding without the church and I dont consdier the God aspect "fluff".



    Because people aren't c*nts to their families. They love them and and dont want to fall out with them (possibly for life) over a simple thing like this.

    Is there something inferior about those of us who get married outside of churches? Why is my wedding not real compared to the wedding of an atheist who gets married inside a church - is it the fact that I told no lies when marrying the woman I loved?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Because people aren't c*nts to their families. They love them and and dont want to fall out with them (possibly for life) over a simple thing like this.

    Maybe their families shouldn't be c*nts to them and respect their choices and beliefs.


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