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bangkok · 10-02-2015 10:58AM

If anyone thinks its that hard to play in the premier league (which it is) should look up a player by the name of Ali Dia

The Moldy Gowl · 10-02-2015 10:58AM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Bangkok said it on the last page or 2. Gerrard and Ward-Prowse are the 2 best in the league according to him.

He is better than di Maria as well.

bangkok · 10-02-2015 10:59AM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Bangkok said it on the last page or 2. Gerrard and Ward-Prowse are the 2 best in the league according to him.

yea imo they are, prob add fabregas into that as well

Will I Amnt · 10-02-2015 11:00AM

bangkok wrote: »

yea imo they are, prob add fabregas into that as well

After seeing the table...

Mantis Toboggan · 10-02-2015 11:02AM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

We jus explained to you it's not exactly simple.

Cop on and take other factors into consideration.

Well it's not exactly rocket science.

monkey9 · 10-02-2015 11:02AM

bangkok wrote: »

gerrard has a world class set piece delivery...you don't think he does?!

He's not world class at taking corners.

bangkok · 10-02-2015 11:02AM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

After seeing the table...

forgot about him, but if you had gerrard or ward prowse taking corners for Chelsea id would say they would have an even higher goal return....

Terry, Ivanovic, Cahill, Zouma, Matic, Drogba, Costa all 6 foot plus and attack the ball with serious power

Hangballlouie · 10-02-2015 11:03AM

bangkok wrote: »

gerrard has a world class set piece delivery...you don't think he does?!

No he doesn't. Have you watched him the last 3-4 years? His delivery is shocking. He is still ok on direct free kicks but he has much better delivery on a moving ball. For all Gerrards attributes through the years, his set piece delivery is the one that diminished before the others.

Anyway I won't post on this topic again as it doesn't relate to utd so if you have anything else to say, take it over to the Liverpool thread.

Hangballlouie · 10-02-2015 11:04AM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Bangkok said it on the last page or 2. Gerrard and Ward-Prowse are the 2 best in the league according to him.

Ah that explains it so.

Will I Amnt · 10-02-2015 11:05AM

bangkok wrote: »

forgot about him, but if you had gerrard or ward prowse taking corners for Chelsea id would say they would have an even higher goal return....

Terry, Ivanovic, Cahill, Zouma, Matic, Drogba, Costa all 6 foot plus and attack the ball with serious power

So you do realise there are mitigating factors and it's not just a case of beating the first man?

bangkok · 10-02-2015 11:06AM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

So you do realise there are mitigating factors and it's not just a case of beating the first man?

well if you don't beat the first man you don't score...EVER

Will I Amnt · 10-02-2015 11:08AM

bangkok wrote: »

well if you don't beat the first man you don't score...EVER

And we have gone full circle.

adox · 10-02-2015 11:08AM

bangkok wrote: »

well if you don't beat the first man you don't score...EVER

False.

TheDoc · 10-02-2015 11:10AM

bangkok wrote: »

If anyone thinks its that hard to play in the premier league (which it is) should look up a player by the name of Ali Dia

It's still early in the morning, I'm sure someone is going to pull you up on the under 21 cap by the end of the day

Will I Amnt · 10-02-2015 11:14AM

TheDoc wrote: »

It's still early in the morning, I'm sure someone is going to pull you up on the under 21 cap by the end of the day

It was probably for the Irish U21 homeless, one-legged, dwarf reserves.

The Moldy Gowl · 10-02-2015 11:15AM

I'm tired of this crap. I really am a masochist when it comes to these debates.

I'll set a reminder doc

keane2097 · 10-02-2015 11:18AM

intellectual dosser wrote: »

I'm stunned - I don't know how to answer this.

What I'll say is: I can do it, therefore a professional footballer can do it.

bangkok wrote: »

I took corner kicks for years and 9 times out of 10 put in a good ball. The key for me was pace, whip and always aiming for the ball to be landing just shy of the 6 yard line on the back post

FutureGuy · 10-02-2015 11:46AM

bangkok wrote: »

I played a game once v Sweden u21 and started.. beat that

I played against Cork City. That doesn't mean sh!t in relation to ADM and his corner taking ability.

intellectual dosser · 10-02-2015 11:53AM

So I think it was me that accidentally started this "I played for..." crap.

Just to clarify what I meant was that if someone as crap as me can cross a ball all the way into a penalty box, then Angel Di Maria should be able to too.

Maximus Alexander · 10-02-2015 11:54AM

I played for United in a CL final.

Will I Amnt · 10-02-2015 11:54AM

intellectual dosser wrote: »

So I think it was me that accidentally started this "I played for..." crap.

Just to clarify what I meant was that if someone as crap as me can cross a ball all the way into a penalty box, then Angel Di Maria should be able to too.

He can, do you think he hasn't got the power to reach that far or something?

Bandana boy · 10-02-2015 11:56AM

I must say I really like Bangkok , he is like a Watson to everyones elses Sherlock ,Really a big help for the part timers and slightly slower members of the forum to understand what is going on.

Julez · 10-02-2015 11:56AM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I played for United in a CL final.

I played for Barca, unlucky mate. I was the little fella that scored the header.

intellectual dosser · 10-02-2015 11:56AM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

He can, do you think he hasn't got the power to reach that far or something?

He can? Gosh I'd love to see him do it some time! (and then regularly)

Pro. F · 10-02-2015 12:00PM

While I agree that corners are not important for scoring goals and with the opinion that's it's silly to compare your-amateur-self to professional footballers, I think it is true that these near post corners look unusually bad. I can understand why people would think they could do better, when they think the aim is to get it over the first man. The important point they are missing, though, is the fact that the United corner takers are hitting the first man so much only because that is where they've been told to aim the corner.

The big question for me is, why have the corner takers been told to aim for near post flick-ons every single time? It doesn't look in any way more effective for scoring goals.

bangkok · 10-02-2015 12:10PM

Pro. F wrote: »

While I agree that corners are not important for scoring goals and with the opinion that's it's silly to compare your-amateur-self to professional footballers, I think it is true that these near post corners look unusually bad. I can understand why people would think they could do better, when they think the aim is to get it over the first man. The important point they are missing, though, is the fact that the United corner takers are hitting the first man so much only because that is where they've been told to aim the corner.

The big question for me is, why have the corner takers been told to aim for near post flick-ons every single time? It doesn't look in any way more effective for scoring goals.

they def don't put every corner near post, when jones was taking corners at qpr and Cambridge he was putting them right into the 6 yard box and rooney and di maria were putting them in deep or middle v west ham. Di Maria even managed to put one on top of the net v West Ham

Pro. F · 10-02-2015 12:15PM

bangkok wrote: »

they def don't put every corner near post, when jones was taking corners at qpr and Cambridge he was putting them right into the 6 yard box and rooney and di maria were putting them in deep or middle v west ham. Di Maria even managed to put one on top of the net v West Ham

I'd say it's at least three quarters of the time that they do. Maybe it's been changing in recent weeks and I haven't noticed.

Lord TSC · 10-02-2015 12:18PM

Reus has signed a new contract with Dortmund, presumably meaning his much touted low release clause is gone, short of relegation. Could still see him leaving Dortmund but probably for a lot more than was thought.

Manutd_4life · 10-02-2015 12:31PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

Reus has signed a new contract with Dortmund, presumably meaning his much touted low release clause is gone, short of relegation. Could still see him leaving Dortmund but probably for a lot more than was thought.

Got to credit him for his loyalty. I'm sure many would have thought that he would bail on them especially with the position the club are in now, but I guess he wants to work on bringing them back up

bangkok · 10-02-2015 12:33PM

Manutd_4life wrote: »

Got to credit him for his loyalty. I'm sure many would have thought that he would bail on them especially with the position the club are in now, but I guess he wants to work on bringing them back up

he could still leave and be just doing this to make sure Dortmund make more money from him.

Wilfried Bony signed a new 5 year contract 6 weeks before he signed for city

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