Champions League on pay TV only?

irishfeen · 09-02-2015 03:27PM

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

Will be interesting to see what happens vis a vis rights next time round when their 3 year agreement is up. Will BT be happy at the amount of promotion that Setanta are giving themselves. Notice the way they are now putting the BT sport logos smaller than the big Setanta logo.

I don't think BT are anyway interested in Ireland - we are too small and they have ended any interest in the broadband/phone market... being honest BT Sports main purpose is to lure customers into phone/broadband/TV packages. Setanta are an easy way to distribute their content in Ireland.

icdg · 09-02-2015 03:55PM

The headlines inaccurate of course, as they don't have exclusive rights to the Champions League but rather second and subsequent pick rights. They do have exclusive Europa League though, which is a blow to TV3.

I wonder whether they will continue to do their own shows though or whether they'll now be content to let BT Sport away now. remember they only get the advertising revenue from Setanta Ireland and Setanta 1, not the BT Sport channels.

irishfeen · 09-02-2015 04:07PM

icdg wrote: »

The headlines inaccurate of course, as they don't have exclusive rights to the Champions League but rather second and subsequent pick rights. They do have exclusive Europa League though, which is a blow to TV3.

I wonder whether they will continue to do their own shows though or whether they'll now be content to let BT Sport away now. remember they only get the advertising revenue from Setanta Ireland and Setanta 1, not the BT Sport channels.

Well I suppose "exclusive rights to all CL matches" is how they get away with that.

icdg · 09-02-2015 04:12PM

They're also claiming exclusivity over the Super Cup, but I understood TV3 had got rights to that as part of their package.

lertsnim · 09-02-2015 04:15PM

How will Setanta show the extra games? On a red button service or online streams. The latter would be a backwards step.

icdg · 09-02-2015 04:22PM

Both, possibly. Cable viewers would be out in the cold on both counts, but no change from the Sky era there.

icdg · 09-02-2015 05:16PM

The press release has been corrected to "live" and omitting mention of the Super Cup.

Elmo · 09-02-2015 05:23PM

You think that RTÉ and TV3 would look to block there games from BT sports. In an era where they are continuing to lose so many sports.

ftakeith · 09-02-2015 05:28PM

red button is already available on bt sport's channels in ireland on satellite, so no panic

I have enjoyed BT Sport's live european football games and setanta ireland's coverage of live champions league games is better than rte/tv3 this season

alwald · 09-02-2015 05:35PM

The issue with Setanta is that it's impossible to get them without going through UPC, Eircom or Magnet, which is a pain really, I much prefer to get Setanta by itself without any 3rd party company even if it's only online/Phone and tablet.

steveon · 09-02-2015 05:53PM

alwald wrote: »

The issue with Setanta is that it's impossible to get them without going through UPC, Eircom or Magnet, which is a pain really, I much prefer to get Setanta by itself without any 3rd party company even if it's only online/Phone and tablet.

You can get setanta on satellite by using a sky box and can then subscribe directly to them for 21.99 a month. Setanta will send you a card directly. No need to subscribe to sky.

alwald · 09-02-2015 06:38PM

steveon wrote: »

You can get setanta on satellite by using a sky box and can then subscribe directly to them for 21.99 a month. Setanta will send you a card directly. No need to subscribe to sky.

Can any other box be used?

icdg · 09-02-2015 06:49PM

Nope.

Elmo wrote: »

You think that RTÉ and TV3 would look to block there games from BT sports. In an era where they are continuing to lose so many sports.

Apparently the deal allows Setanta to broadcast the games that RTE and TV3 are showing also.

The phraseology "the Setanta Sports pack" instead of just "Setanta Sports" is usually a sign that coverage is on BT/ESPN rather than Setanta Ireland/1 but we'll see what happens.

WeHaveToGoBack · 09-02-2015 06:50PM

If Setanta have all the rights to the CL and EL, will they actually show ALL matches? Say, if in the EL, if two English teams and Celtic were playing, will we have the choice of all three, or stuck with one or two of what Setanta chooses?

irishfeen · 09-02-2015 06:53PM

lertsnim wrote: »

How will Setanta show the extra games? On a red button service or online streams. The latter would be a backwards step.

Almost certainly they will be shown via a red button service like sky and if PL rights go right for BT I wouldn't be surprised to see a BT Sport 3 launch.

icdg · 09-02-2015 06:54PM

With the Europa League your likely looking at four live "front channel" games on BT Sport 1 & ESPN (BT Sport 2 needs to be kept clear because there are overlaps with the European Challenge Cup which airs on some Europa League gameweeks). It's possible BT Sport Extra (the red button) could be pulled in, in the event every UK team cannot get front channel coverage. If it were Celtic, and in the event BT opted not to show, Setanta would no doubt run their own show.

irishfeen · 09-02-2015 06:56PM

WeHaveToGoBack wrote: »

If Setanta have all the rights to the CL and EL, will they actually show ALL matches? Say, if in the EL, if two English teams and Celtic were playing, will we have the choice of all three, or stuck with one or two of what Setanta chooses?

All matches will be available on the "Setanta Pack" - Setanta Ireland, Setanta Sports 1, BT Sport 1, BT Sport 2, ESPN and almost certainly a red button service.

lertsnim · 09-02-2015 06:56PM

ftakeith wrote: »

red button is already available on bt sport's channels in ireland on satellite, so no panic

One SD channel. They'd want to multiply that by 8 and add in a hd stream or 2

irishfeen · 09-02-2015 06:58PM

lertsnim wrote: »

One SD channel. They'd want to multiply that by 8 and add in a hd stream or 2

They will I guarentee it, they have a massive budget... As much if not more then sky.

redabbey · 09-02-2015 09:18PM

Only catching up on the Setanta Press release right now. The content of that press release and the headline seem to be at odds with each other. The Setanta Sports Pack is ambiguous wording. It does suggest though that the initial three year deal for Setanta to be selling agents for BT Sport in the ROI is set to continue.

icdg · 09-02-2015 09:35PM

Depends, of course, on what happens in the next 24 hours with the biggest sports rights contract of them all. But usually, "on the Setanta Sports Pack" is Setanta-speak for "on BT Sport".

steveon · 09-02-2015 09:49PM

steveon wrote: »

You can get setanta on satellite by using a sky box and can then subscribe directly to them for 21.99 a month. Setanta will send you a card directly. No need to subscribe to sky.

unfortunately not...it has to be a sky box. However you will also get BT sports as well included in the price

Badabing · 10-02-2015 10:53AM

Wonder what RTE paid for the rights now with no exclusive rights in Ireland and the final also on setanta.

redabbey · 10-02-2015 12:29PM

Badabing wrote: »

Wonder what RTE paid for the rights now with no exclusive rights in Ireland and the final also on setanta.

RTE knew what rights they were paying for. No difference to the previous contract for them. The final and other matches were always available elsewhere.

Badabing · 10-02-2015 12:46PM

redabbey wrote:

RTE knew what rights they were paying for. No difference to the previous contract for them. The final and other matches were always available elsewhere.

Have they not being devalued a bit now tho, in Ireland they had final exclusive last contract. Just a point about being a public broadcaster spending considerable money on non exclusive rights on a Wednesday.

kooga · 10-02-2015 05:02PM

just to confirm, does that mean next year we will have access to CL and europa league on the BT Sport channels as well, there will be no geo blocking as per the europa league on BT sport at the moment.

secondly can i take it there will be no CL on rte 2 on wednesday night

Elmo · 10-02-2015 05:05PM

kooga wrote: »

just to confirm, does that mean next year we will have access to CL and europa league on the BT Sport channels as well, there will be no geo blocking as per the europa league on BT sport at the moment.

secondly can i take it there will be no CL on rte 2 on wednesday night

Looks that way. I think RTÉ 2 have Wednesday Night with TV3 on Tuesday night.

icdg · 10-02-2015 05:09PM

Quick summary:

RTE2 and TV3 keep their Champions League packages (but Super Cup moves from RTE2 to TV3). TV3 loses Europa League.

Setanta can show all Champions League games - including non exclusively, first picks - and gets exclusive rights to Europa League.

kooga · 10-02-2015 05:17PM

icdg wrote: »

Quick summary:

RTE2 and TV3 keep their Champions League packages (but Super Cup moves from RTE2 to TV3). TV3 loses Europa League.

Setanta can show all Champions League games - including non exclusively, first picks - and gets exclusive rights to Europa League.

and BT sport sits above them all with everything (non geo blocked for ROI?)

alwald · 10-02-2015 07:22PM

kooga wrote: »

and BT sport sits above them all with everything (non geo blocked for ROI?)

How can I get BT sport by itself in Ireland?

Champions League on pay TV only?

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