Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Read Mod Warning in OP 7/1/15

Well that was pure scutter; Liquidised, 'morning after a feed of cider and kebabs', ring-incinerating scutter, lacking any sign of something solid in it's fabric. With these players, this manager, this club, there is no excuse for a 1st half performance like today's.

LVG after the match wrote:

I think we played very badly in the first half, but we showed a lot of fight and spirit in the second, especially after their goal.

But I have to say what spirit my team showed after going behind, and I have thanked my players for that.

For real? Rather than thanking them for doing a job they're very well paid to do, how about crucifying them for their 1st half performance and telling them the 2nd half performance is the bare minimum expected of them?

A manager 'thanking' his own players like that after a lucky 1-1 draw vs West Ham is dangerous territory in my mind. It is normally the kind of behaviour befitting a manager under pressure who is trying to win over his players a la Moyes around this time last year.

If we carry on through the next few 'easy' games like this, top 4 will be gone. This is the run of games we should be taking advantage of before we have to go back to playing genuine quality teams. I'm holding LVG responsible for our failings, and our success if it comes to that. It is getting past the point of infuriating looking at him shoehorning Rooney, Falcao, RVP, and Di Maria into the starting 11 at the expense of a threadbare CM. Our CM is a state, but for the first time in years it isn't because of lack of personnel, it's down to the stubbornness of our manager IMO. Herrera isn't simply just being kept out of the team because of Rooney in CM though, there is shít going on here that we don't know about. Carrick-Blind-Fellaini-Herrera-Di Maria, they are the players our CM should be comprised of ideally. I really have no idea what he's trying to accomplish with Rooney, a born goalscorer, playing there.

All the above said, and I haven't even thrown half of the toys I have out of the pram there, things aren't just as bad yet as some are stating they are.

We have just one defeat in the last 17 games in all competitions and aren't hemorrhaging losses like we were last season, especially at home. Our form has improved against the 'top' teams, thank fúck I know, otherwise we'd be 7th/8th at the moment. Where I couldn't tell for the life of me what Moyes was trying to accomplish with the team, I can see what LVG is trying even if it's not clicking as fast as it should be, and even if it is not my own ideal choice of play.

I'm still firmly with LVG, but some of the things he is doing now, if he carries on doing them without progress for much longer (i.e. Rooney in CM with no impact) they could very easily become hangable offences in my book if we finish outside the Top 4.