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sydthebeat · 05-02-2015 10:47PM

vienne86 wrote: »

So Toulon have been beaten (10-12) by the Sharks in Stad Felix Mayol....first loss for them there for how long?????

Barnes gave them every chance

matthew8 · 05-02-2015 10:58PM

Stade earlier this season won there, so did Grenoble last year.

vienne86 · 05-02-2015 10:59PM

sydthebeat wrote: »

Barnes gave them every chance

He sure did - he was rubbish in the last few minutes. Sharks deserved the win.

Teferi · 05-02-2015 11:27PM

Sharks beat Toulon 12 - 10 if anybody cares.

thomond2006 · 05-02-2015 11:37PM

Teferi wrote: »

Sharks beat Toulon 12 - 10 if anybody cares.

A glorified pre-season match for the Sharks really. I think there's a place for these matches, just not a day before the start of the Six Nations! A South African team during a mini-tour here would be pretty cool, maybe play one of the provinces and then the Wolfhounds?

sydneybound · 06-02-2015 08:37AM

I see USA topped their group at the Wellington Sevens yesterday. That's the second time they've done that in something like 10 years.

Bodes well for the upcoming Las Vagas 7's in which their expecting a crowd of over 70,000 over the couple of days.

dregin · 06-02-2015 12:23PM

So the 6 Nations is Hook's last stint. I'll be sorry to see him go. He does seem like a nice bloke, even if his punditry is a little bit "out there" at times.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/six-nations-2015-last-call-for-mr-hook-1.2089502

total former · 06-02-2015 12:33PM

dregin wrote: »

So the 6 Nations is Hook's last stint. I'll be sorry to see him go. He does seem like a nice bloke, even if his punditry is a little bit "out there" at times.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/six-nations-2015-last-call-for-mr-hook-1.2089502

I think Clerkin has nailed it there. His time is up.

Hook simply hasn't kept himself relevant, isn't very well informed and the novelty of his bizarre turns of phrase has long worn off. His actual analysis is atrocious and when you've guys like O'Shea, Horgan and now ROG coming in with far more insight and far more understanding of the modern game, then you'd have to ask what the point of Hook is.

Swiwi. · 06-02-2015 01:03PM

I love the Horgan ROG Show and hope that is kept going. Won't miss Hook's default mode of rampant negativism, without the detailed analysis to back up his views. Wish him well though, bygones be bygones.

CatFromHue · 06-02-2015 01:04PM

dregin wrote: »

So the 6 Nations is Hook's last stint. I'll be sorry to see him go. He does seem like a nice bloke, even if his punditry is a little bit "out there" at times.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/six-nations-2015-last-call-for-mr-hook-1.2089502

Sometimes right, sometimes wrong, always certain.

Quite a good line that.

Love him or hate him he was always an excellent orator and so very different than any other rugby commentator.

matthew8 · 06-02-2015 01:11PM

I'm glad to see the back of Hook. He turned every time they went to the studio into a cringefest with his ill-informed opinions.

The_Captain · 06-02-2015 01:35PM

I'll be very glad to see Hook gone. He has no place in the modern game.

A man just spouting off uninformed opinions to the general populace like it's gospel.
I get that the RTE panel was aimed at people with very little knowledge of the game, but it's well past its sell-by-date.

Pretty much every other channel has intelligent pundits with experience/knowledge of the game creating discussion and analysing performances.

RTE just don't seem to respect the game, they have a man shouting stupid comments over the actual experts and Mark McDermott giving cutting scrum analysis like "They pushed against each other and fell over and now they're resetting the scrum"

It's like they're going for a panel/set-up similar to their football coverage, but they've forgotten that their shouty opinionated men on the football panel actually have a huge base of knowledge and experience behind their opinions.

(except in the last few years when it just became Giles/Dunphy moaning about every player, but that's beside the point)

That being said, my favourite panel has always been the Matty/Franno combination, so make of that what you will

thomond2006 · 06-02-2015 01:40PM

I miss The Breakdown with Franno and Williams.

ionadnapóca · 06-02-2015 02:02PM

for old times sake....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8o9KyFxppY

Flipper22 · 06-02-2015 02:51PM

Hook drives me nuts (McGurk too to a lesser extent). I'll generally watch the build up on BBC. His lack of insight or understanding of the modern game is matched only by his relentless pessimism.

sydthebeat · 06-02-2015 03:29PM

Now it's time for Tom "butt in" mcgurk to go too....

total former · 06-02-2015 03:39PM

sydthebeat wrote: »

Now it's time for Tom "butt in" mcgurk to go too....

I thought that too, but then they'd only replace him with Daire O'Brien whom I just can't stand.

thomond2006 · 06-02-2015 03:47PM

Another year at least for the Clermont butcher.

its_phil · 06-02-2015 03:47PM

total former wrote: »

I thought that too, but then they'd only replace him with Daire O'Brien whom I just can't stand.

Still annoyed that Joanne Cantwell hasn't comeback to replace that guy. He's the most patronising and ill informed host around.

Cantwell was brilliant and always lead the conversation well.

thomond2006 · 06-02-2015 03:48PM

its_phil wrote: »

Still annoyed that Joanne Cantwell hasn't comeback to replace that guy. He's the most patronising and ill informed host around.

Cantwell was brilliant and always lead the conversation well.

Not to mention the 'ol chestnut of not paying his gambling debts...

(This was reported by a newspaper, can't dig out the link now)

The_Captain · 06-02-2015 03:55PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

Not to mention the 'ol chestnut of not paying his gambling debts...

(This was reported by a newspaper, can't dig out the link now)

And got a poor girl fired for accepting the bet

jacothelad · 06-02-2015 04:37PM

sydthebeat wrote: »

Now it's time for Tom "butt in" mcgurk to go too....

total former wrote: »

I thought that too, but then they'd only replace him with Daire O'Brien whom I just can't stand.

Au revoir McGurk.

http://http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/tom-mcgurk-to-retire-from-rugby-panel-its-been-a-fantastic-journey-over-18-years-30969526.html

dregin · 06-02-2015 04:41PM

Could never stand him... fixed link: http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/tom-mcgurk-to-retire-from-rugby-panel-its-been-a-fantastic-journey-over-18-years-30969526.html

The_Captain · 06-02-2015 04:45PM

Has Gervais ever done any TV work? I'm surprised he hasn't got himself into the RTE set up yet

06-02-2015 05:51PM

Gloucester's Darren Dawidiuk is the latest into the collection!

"It was a massive step up, but more of a mind set than anything. I took my chance and never looked back. You have got to be prepared to take the big hits. There are just no easy games"

Super 15 are going with a similar approach this year too!

Waratahs' Jono Lance had this to say

“With the Reds that next year, it’s always spoken about, but it was a shock. There are no easy games in Super Rugby but you’re versing teams that take the physicality to a new level,”

Philo Beddoe · 06-02-2015 06:13PM

total former wrote: »

I thought that too, but then they'd only replace him with Daire O'Brien whom I just can't stand.

From the first moment I saw that guy on screen I didn't like him, now I cannot abide him. Rumours about his less than ethical behaviour off-screen don't help.

CatFromHue · 06-02-2015 06:49PM

The_Captain wrote: »

Has Gervais ever done any TV work? I'm surprised he hasn't got himself into the RTE set up yet

Gervais who?

Swiwi. · 06-02-2015 07:03PM

Cantwell, ROG, Horgan and then someone from the North would be good I reckon - was Stephen Ferris any cop in front of the microphone??

molloyjh · 06-02-2015 07:14PM

Swiwi. wrote: »

Cantwell, ROG, Horgan and then someone from the North would be good I reckon - was Stephen Ferris any cop in front of the microphone??

Almost impossible to tell when he was getting interrupted every 2 seconds by that sorry excuse for a host. Yeah Cantwell, ROG, Shaggy and maybe Fez would be good. Even Birch brings a bit more detailed analysis to Against The Head and can be good for some of the technical stuff.

ssaye2 · 06-02-2015 08:26PM

Women playing? Any update

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