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Man commits suicide after taking magic mushrooms

  • 06-02-2015 10:40AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,824 ✭✭✭


    Condolences to the family. This is a tragedy, a young family too.

    http://www.herald.ie/news/familys-plea-after-tragedy-of-dad-who-took-stag-trip-drugs-30969051.html

    I would expect after 72 hours any effects of the magic mushrooms would have worn off. The article states he never suffered from depression though...

    I've never taken magic mushrooms so can't say but I'm just curious on whether the effects could make a normal guy do something like this?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Xcellor wrote: »
    Condolences to the family. This is a tragedy, a young family too.

    http://www.herald.ie/news/familys-plea-after-tragedy-of-dad-who-took-stag-trip-drugs-30969051.html

    I would expect after 72 hours any effects of the magic mushrooms would have worn off. The article states he never suffered from depression though...

    I've never taken magic mushrooms so can't say but I'm just curious on whether the effects could make a normal guy do something like this?

    Hallucinogens can stay in the system for a long time. Acid flashbacks can happen months/years after you consumed the acid (I know that one from sorry experience).

    http://www.lsdaddiction.us/content/acid-flashbacks.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dog of Tears


    In other news, man commits suicide after drinking glass of water.

    Water to be banned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,847 ✭✭✭bleg


    RIP

    You cannot infer mushrooms cause people to kill themselves though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭MonkeyTennis


    Theres a website called lsd addiction??

    No person in the world EVER got addicted to LSD. Its unpossible


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    Maybe someone else will know, I don't know much about shrooms, but it could be possible that something in them triggered latent mental problems in him just like high THC strains of weed can do to some people.


    If one was ever going to try a hallucinogen it'd really be better to go with DMT. Although that'd probably be too much for a first time experience lol. I know someone who worked their way up from shrooms to LSD before DMT and they couldn't put the experience into words, but said it should be mandatory for everyone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭elefant


    Xcellor wrote: »
    Condolences to the family. This is a tragedy, a young family too.

    http://www.herald.ie/news/familys-plea-after-tragedy-of-dad-who-took-stag-trip-drugs-30969051.html

    I would expect after 72 hours any effects of the magic mushrooms would have worn off. The article states he never suffered from depression though...

    I've never taken magic mushrooms so can't say but I'm just curious on whether the effects could make a normal guy do something like this?

    I know plenty of people in Amsterdam who have taken them and none have had any lasting effects. You can just buy them over the counter here.

    The description of his level of remorse having taken some legal drugs (and what sounds like a very small amount from the article) on a stag-do seems quite unusual.

    RIP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    In other news, man commits suicide after drinking glass of water.

    Water to be banned.

    Edgy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,846 ✭✭✭✭somesoldiers


    I've taken them, both picked directly from the field and across the counter. Never had any lasting effects, if anything the ones across the counter were more predictable and more of a giggle effect than hallucinations. The field produced 50/50 good and bad trips, though taking them before you meet your girlfriend or before going in to work in the local disco collecting glasses probably wasn't the best time to do them- ah the innocence of the young somesoldiers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭AndonHandon


    /inb4 stoners shuffle in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭kieran.


    My guess would be, he was remorseful for trying more than a few shrooms on the Stag couldnt live with the guilt and ended it all. RIP


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  • Posts: 24,867 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    /inb4 stoners shuffle in

    You've a bit of time yet, it's only just after 10am. Sure the bong water won't be changed for another hour at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    There is a damn sight more going on here than shrooms making him kill himself.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kieran. wrote: »
    My guess would be, he was remorseful for trying more than a few shrooms on the Stag couldnt live with the guilt and ended it all. RIP

    I thought that and didn't want to say it, so thanks for saying it Kieran, lol....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    Xcellor wrote: »
    Condolences to the family. This is a tragedy, a young family too.

    http://www.herald.ie/news/familys-plea-after-tragedy-of-dad-who-took-stag-trip-drugs-30969051.html

    I would expect after 72 hours any effects of the magic mushrooms would have worn off. The article states he suffered from depression though...

    I've never taken magic mushrooms so can't say but I'm just curious on whether the effects could make a normal guy do something like this?

    Used in a certain US prison to torture inmates. Need I say more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    kieran. wrote: »
    My guess would be, he was remorseful for trying more than a few shrooms on the Stag couldnt live with the guilt and ended it all. RIP

    Especially telling his partner that she deserved better.

    I feel sorry for the family, but I really think there's more going on than a few shrooms.

    I've only taken our own ones, would anyone be able to confirm what the effects of four Amsterdam truffles would be?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭elefant


    kylith wrote: »
    Especially telling his partner that she deserved better.

    I feel sorry for the family, but I really think there's more going on than a few shrooms.

    I've only taken our own ones, would anyone be able to confirm what the effects of four Amsterdam truffles would be?

    If it was literally four pieces he ate, I would say very minimal. You would buy a box at a time with loads of small truffles in it (I'd hazard a guess at 20, but i'm not sure).


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    It sounds like he had deep psychological problems. The article keeps referring to the "guilt" he felt after taking a few mushrooms.
    For fcuks sake was the poor guy so consumed that any departure from a life of rigid adherence would make him kill himself?


    "He was so disappointed in what he did" ??

    There's more to this story than meets the eye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    kylith wrote: »
    Especially telling his partner that she deserved better.

    I feel sorry for the family, but I really think there's more going on than a few shrooms.

    I've only taken our own ones, would anyone be able to confirm what the effects of four Amsterdam truffles would be?

    Milder than actual mushrooms, by and large.

    Easier to blame mushrooms than to imagine a loved one having mental health issues though.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    kylith wrote: »
    There is a damn sight more going on here than shrooms making him kill himself.

    Returning from the free and easy life of Amsterdam to the drudgery of Tipperary maybe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    psychosis was probably triggered by the mushrooms

    I could only imagine what he descended into

    terrible way to go

    RIP


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles


    One of the last sentences in such a serious and sad article. Seems such an odd thing to say!
    His heartbroken father said his son had described Amsterdam as “a dump”.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭Candy_Girl


    He only took a small amount and at the most I'd say could last up to two days, in regards to flash backs I'd imaging that's something that comes from using drugs regularly or long term not a one off? Maybe he hit a real low after the high of the drugs and drink and couldn't handle it. Sure who knows...it's sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Milder than actual mushrooms, by and large.

    Easier to blame mushrooms than to imagine a loved one having mental health issues though.

    True.

    If I heard of someone killing themselves after a trip to 'Dam after telling his partner that he wasn't good enough for her my money would be on - got plastered on booze, woke up with a prostitute/random woman from pub, felt guilty, discovered he had caught something, and couldn't face telling his partner that he'd cheated on her and potentially infected her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles


    kylith wrote: »
    True.

    If I heard of someone killing themselves after a trip to 'Dam after telling his partner that he wasn't good enough for her my money would be on - got plastered on booze, woke up with a prostitute/random woman from pub, felt guilty, discovered he had caught something, and couldn't face telling his partner that he'd cheated on her and potentially infected her.

    Unfortunately that's the first thing I thought of, without the STD part though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Hallucinogens are not for everyone and can take a serious toll on an inexperienced user. This case would be at the extreme end of the scale and I would hazard a guess that this chap had preexisting difficulties.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,190 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Might be the lad visited the window ladies or the like? I can't see how the mushrooms could trigger guilt? Terrible story anyway, feel bad for his family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    boards.ie seems to be the place where people come to defend drug consumption and try to make out that it has nothing to do with mental health issues. Its kind of like the Iona Institute for illegal drugs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    Might be the lad visited the window ladies or the like? I can't see how the mushrooms could trigger guilt? Terrible story anyway, feel bad for his family.

    Guilt would be something if he'd done anything wrong, but they're perfectly legal in Amsterdam. It'd be like someone killing themselves after a trip to Ireland because they'd had a pint of Guinness.

    ETA: and his mates aren't likely to 'fess up if he had been with the window ladies. Better to let his family think that he was guilty about drugs than had been unfaithful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    boards.ie seems to be the place where people come to defend drug consumption and try to make out that it has nothing to do with mental health issues. Its kind of like the Iona Institute for illegal drugs.
    They are not illegal in the Netherlands.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,190 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    boards.ie seems to be the place where people come to defend drug consumption and try to make out that it has nothing to do with mental health issues. Its kind of like the Iona Institute for illegal drugs.

    Ireland is awash with drugs. Try find any decent party where there isnt at least one lad who brought the schmoke. And that's just the fluffy stuff.


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