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Man commits suicide after taking magic mushrooms

Xcellor

Condolences to the family. This is a tragedy, a young family too.

http://www.herald.ie/news/familys-plea-after-tragedy-of-dad-who-took-stag-trip-drugs-30969051.html

I would expect after 72 hours any effects of the magic mushrooms would have worn off. The article states he never suffered from depression though...

I've never taken magic mushrooms so can't say but I'm just curious on whether the effects could make a normal guy do something like this?

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RecordStraight

Tombo2001 wrote: »

boards.ie seems to be the place where people come to defend drug consumption and try to make out that it has nothing to do with mental health issues. Its kind of like the Iona Institute for illegal drugs.

I'd be in favour of legalisation, so I'm not some sort of anti-drug zealot - but, my god, there a lot of people in denial here about the harm drugs can do to your mental health.

Friend of mine underwent a complete personality change after spending a bit too long smoking during his years in Amsterdam. He seems to suffer from paranoia all the time now, always quick to take offence if he thinks he's the butt of a joke.

kylith

J Mysterio wrote: »

I'm saying the lad may well have visited a lady of the night to achieve that level of soul destroying guilt.

Sorry, I phrased it badly - I agree with you. I meant that getting guilty about taking shrooms in Amsterdam would be like getting guilty about drinking beer in Ireland.

newmug

Fcukin hell. There's a reason drugs are illegal kids! Say no to drugs.

J Mysterio

kylith wrote: »

Guilt would be something if he'd done anything wrong, but they're perfectly legal in Amsterdam. It'd be like someone killing themselves after a trip to Ireland because they'd had a pint of Guinness

I'm saying the lad may well have visited a lady of the night to achieve that level of soul destroying guilt.

J Mysterio

Tombo2001 wrote: »

boards.ie seems to be the place where people come to defend drug consumption and try to make out that it has nothing to do with mental health issues. Its kind of like the Iona Institute for illegal drugs.

Ireland is awash with drugs. Try find any decent party where there isnt at least one lad who brought the schmoke. And that's just the fluffy stuff.

suicide_circus

Tombo2001 wrote: »

boards.ie seems to be the place where people come to defend drug consumption and try to make out that it has nothing to do with mental health issues. Its kind of like the Iona Institute for illegal drugs.

They are not illegal in the Netherlands.

kylith

J Mysterio wrote: »

Might be the lad visited the window ladies or the like? I can't see how the mushrooms could trigger guilt? Terrible story anyway, feel bad for his family.

Guilt would be something if he'd done anything wrong, but they're perfectly legal in Amsterdam. It'd be like someone killing themselves after a trip to Ireland because they'd had a pint of Guinness.

ETA: and his mates aren't likely to 'fess up if he had been with the window ladies. Better to let his family think that he was guilty about drugs than had been unfaithful.

Tombo2001

boards.ie seems to be the place where people come to defend drug consumption and try to make out that it has nothing to do with mental health issues. Its kind of like the Iona Institute for illegal drugs.

J Mysterio

Might be the lad visited the window ladies or the like? I can't see how the mushrooms could trigger guilt? Terrible story anyway, feel bad for his family.

suicide_circus

Hallucinogens are not for everyone and can take a serious toll on an inexperienced user. This case would be at the extreme end of the scale and I would hazard a guess that this chap had preexisting difficulties.

Ihatecuddles

kylith wrote: »

True.

If I heard of someone killing themselves after a trip to 'Dam after telling his partner that he wasn't good enough for her my money would be on - got plastered on booze, woke up with a prostitute/random woman from pub, felt guilty, discovered he had caught something, and couldn't face telling his partner that he'd cheated on her and potentially infected her.

Unfortunately that's the first thing I thought of, without the STD part though.

kylith

bodice ripper wrote: »

Milder than actual mushrooms, by and large.

Easier to blame mushrooms than to imagine a loved one having mental health issues though.

True.

If I heard of someone killing themselves after a trip to 'Dam after telling his partner that he wasn't good enough for her my money would be on - got plastered on booze, woke up with a prostitute/random woman from pub, felt guilty, discovered he had caught something, and couldn't face telling his partner that he'd cheated on her and potentially infected her.

Candy_Girl

He only took a small amount and at the most I'd say could last up to two days, in regards to flash backs I'd imaging that's something that comes from using drugs regularly or long term not a one off? Maybe he hit a real low after the high of the drugs and drink and couldn't handle it. Sure who knows...it's sad.

Ihatecuddles

One of the last sentences in such a serious and sad article. Seems such an odd thing to say!

His heartbroken father said his son had described Amsterdam as “a dump”.

SEPT 23 1989

psychosis was probably triggered by the mushrooms

I could only imagine what he descended into

terrible way to go

RIP

Egginacup

kylith wrote: »

There is a damn sight more going on here than shrooms making him kill himself.

Returning from the free and easy life of Amsterdam to the drudgery of Tipperary maybe.

bodice ripper

kylith wrote: »

Especially telling his partner that she deserved better.

I feel sorry for the family, but I really think there's more going on than a few shrooms.

I've only taken our own ones, would anyone be able to confirm what the effects of four Amsterdam truffles would be?

Milder than actual mushrooms, by and large.

Easier to blame mushrooms than to imagine a loved one having mental health issues though.

Egginacup

It sounds like he had deep psychological problems. The article keeps referring to the "guilt" he felt after taking a few mushrooms.
For fcuks sake was the poor guy so consumed that any departure from a life of rigid adherence would make him kill himself?

"He was so disappointed in what he did" ??

There's more to this story than meets the eye.

elefant

kylith wrote: »

Especially telling his partner that she deserved better.

I feel sorry for the family, but I really think there's more going on than a few shrooms.

I've only taken our own ones, would anyone be able to confirm what the effects of four Amsterdam truffles would be?

If it was literally four pieces he ate, I would say very minimal. You would buy a box at a time with loads of small truffles in it (I'd hazard a guess at 20, but i'm not sure).

kylith

kieran. wrote: »

My guess would be, he was remorseful for trying more than a few shrooms on the Stag couldnt live with the guilt and ended it all. RIP

Especially telling his partner that she deserved better.

I feel sorry for the family, but I really think there's more going on than a few shrooms.

I've only taken our own ones, would anyone be able to confirm what the effects of four Amsterdam truffles would be?

SterlingArcher

Xcellor wrote: »

Condolences to the family. This is a tragedy, a young family too.

http://www.herald.ie/news/familys-plea-after-tragedy-of-dad-who-took-stag-trip-drugs-30969051.html

I would expect after 72 hours any effects of the magic mushrooms would have worn off. The article states he suffered from depression though...

I've never taken magic mushrooms so can't say but I'm just curious on whether the effects could make a normal guy do something like this?

Used in a certain US prison to torture inmates. Need I say more.

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kieran. wrote: »

My guess would be, he was remorseful for trying more than a few shrooms on the Stag couldnt live with the guilt and ended it all. RIP

I thought that and didn't want to say it, so thanks for saying it Kieran, lol....

kylith

There is a damn sight more going on here than shrooms making him kill himself.

[Deleted User]

AndonHandon wrote: »

/inb4 stoners shuffle in

You've a bit of time yet, it's only just after 10am. Sure the bong water won't be changed for another hour at least.

kieran.

My guess would be, he was remorseful for trying more than a few shrooms on the Stag couldnt live with the guilt and ended it all. RIP

AndonHandon

/inb4 stoners shuffle in

somesoldiers

I've taken them, both picked directly from the field and across the counter. Never had any lasting effects, if anything the ones across the counter were more predictable and more of a giggle effect than hallucinations. The field produced 50/50 good and bad trips, though taking them before you meet your girlfriend or before going in to work in the local disco collecting glasses probably wasn't the best time to do them- ah the innocence of the young somesoldiers

Sir Gallagher

Dog of Tears wrote: »

In other news, man commits suicide after drinking glass of water.

Water to be banned.

Edgy.

elefant

Xcellor wrote: »

Condolences to the family. This is a tragedy, a young family too.

http://www.herald.ie/news/familys-plea-after-tragedy-of-dad-who-took-stag-trip-drugs-30969051.html

I would expect after 72 hours any effects of the magic mushrooms would have worn off. The article states he never suffered from depression though...

I've never taken magic mushrooms so can't say but I'm just curious on whether the effects could make a normal guy do something like this?

I know plenty of people in Amsterdam who have taken them and none have had any lasting effects. You can just buy them over the counter here.

The description of his level of remorse having taken some legal drugs (and what sounds like a very small amount from the article) on a stag-do seems quite unusual.

RIP.

DoYouEvenLift

Maybe someone else will know, I don't know much about shrooms, but it could be possible that something in them triggered latent mental problems in him just like high THC strains of weed can do to some people.

If one was ever going to try a hallucinogen it'd really be better to go with DMT. Although that'd probably be too much for a first time experience lol. I know someone who worked their way up from shrooms to LSD before DMT and they couldn't put the experience into words, but said it should be mandatory for everyone.