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Casual racism in your place of work

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    The Peanut wrote: »
    I'm a Tipp man working in Cork; I'm on the receiving end of it for 20 years.

    Feckin Cork men coming up here, taking our jobs and our sheep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Heard some lads in front of me in a lecture talking about how evil ISIS were for killing the pilot and the only solution to these war crimes was for the USa to step up and 'nuke the middle the east'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭cassid


    I try to go for a swim at lunch, better than listening to people bitching and moaning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Heard some lads in front of me in a lecture talking about how evil ISIS were for killing the pilot and the only solution to these war crimes was for the USa to step up and 'nuke the middle the east'

    I'd say they are just young and stupid...should well grow up in time.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    As a woman in IT I face casual sexism every day from racial minorites OP how do you fancy that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭cruais


    Just ignore the empty vessels


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    Stheno wrote: »
    As a woman in IT I face casual sexism every day from racial minorites OP how do you fancy that?

    whatcha gonna do?
    Do you have a plan?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Stheno wrote: »
    As a woman in IT I face casual sexism every day from racial minorites OP how do you fancy that?

    Tell them to fcuk off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    That is a very mild stereotype..I do not take offence at it.

    I don't, at all.

    Also a big one here is that all Asians are cheap, run really low brow establishments and are extremely difficult to get money out of on time, never mind the language barrier. Most staff here really don't like dealing with their Asian accounts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    I don't, at all.

    Also a big one here is that all Asians are cheap, run really low brow establishments and are extremely difficult to get money out of on time, never mind the language barrier. Most staff here really don't like dealing with their Asian accounts.

    That is just plain stupid


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 231 ✭✭Minjor


    I'd say they are just young and stupid...should well grow up in time.

    You'd be surprised, they're not the only ones. I've seen several users on boards today who think nukes are actually a credible solution to getting rid of ISIS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Minjor wrote: »
    You'd be surprised, they're not the only ones. I've seen several users on boards today who think nukes are actually a credible solution to getting rid of ISIS.

    have to use them somewhere and it's looking increasingly unlikely they're gonna nuke the whales.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭The other fella


    Always worked on building sites in construction and it was always just plain racism rather than "casual" racism.There was a contractor from the bogs of nowhere who had a Nigerian working for him on our site once and the racial abuse he gave him right to his face was unbelievable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    Always worked on building sites in construction and it was always just plain racism rather than "casual" racism.There was a contractor from the bogs of nowhere who had a Nigerian working for him on our site once and the racial abuse he gave him right to his face was unbelievable.

    If he was a subbie on a larger site he should have been send of site and made to jump through hoops to get what he had done up to that point signed off to be paid. He would think twice about his racism then. In fact any credible major contractor would have taken some sort of action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭The other fella


    If he was a subbie on a larger site he should have been send of site and made to jump through hoops to get what he had done up to that point signed off to be paid. He would think twice about his racism then. In fact any credible major contractor would have taken some sort of action.

    It was only a small site we were working on at the time, private job.The black man taking the abuse didnt seem too fussed but i think he just put on a brave face and stayed quiet so as not to risk his job, the recession was just coming into full swing at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    It was only a small site we were working on at the time, private job.The black man taking the abuse didnt seem too fussed but i think he just put on a brave face and stayed quiet so as not to risk his job, the recession was just coming into full swing at this stage.

    I take it the client did not witness it or the main builder. Either that or they are just as bad as him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    thelad95 wrote: »
    'Sure the Polish are awful hard-working'

    Shocking racism, that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭The Peanut


    My uncle has a warehouse and he has some men from the Ivory Coast working for him. When they started, they mainly spoke French and a little broken English. As they were being trained, they addressed my uncle as "Yes Boss"; it started out as a respectful reply but they are still saying it now, as it annoys the uncle.

    My uncle has told me that on a few occasions during audits or visits, that he has been advised by visitors - mainly females - that he really shouldn't be making them say "Yes Boss" in this day and age. They are right of course; I think it's admirable that they have the strength of their conviction to point it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭dub_skav


    hfallada wrote: »
    I think Irish people say stupid stuff without realising it. Like my friends friend was going on about the "puffs" and how someone was so fruity. You would think he is homophobic, but his brother is actually gay and he has zero issues with it

    Irish people need to learn to get a filter. Americans are racists in private. Irish people arent


    That is an odd opinion to hold

    I'd rather hear what the Irish misguidedly consider "playful banter" in public than have people be privately racist.
    At least everything is out in the open.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭Irish Halo


    If you have emigrated when you return to Ireland you'll get used to hearing "... but that's different" i.e. Irish emigrating = OK, people emigrating to Ireland = Bad.

    I know a few people who are not originally from the UK married to UK people who's in-laws vote UKIP and think all emigrants should go home. They will say this openly but don't seem to understand that this means they want their child's husband/wife to piss off (and potentially take their grandchildren with them). I guess this happens in Ireland but have not experienced it.

    I think Michael Rosen put it well "I sometimes fear that people think that fascism arrives in fancy dress ... Fascism arrives as your friend ...
    [It will] make you feel proud ... give you a job ... It doesn't walk in saying, Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭pillphil


    My mother once said about the street her brother lives on "It's full of foreigners."
    She's Irish, her brother is Irish and he lives in England. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    In the haulage industry, anyone not of Irish or UK nationality are referred to as "Taliban".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Suppose what you define as casual racism, and how long your working there.

    I had a job where our team was extremely diverse. We had a guy from Clare, a guy from Limerick, me from Northside Dublin, guy from Southside Dublin, a girl from Nigeria, a bloke from China and an Australian boss.

    If you walked in and stood there for two hours, maybe you would take offense and find it to be highly racist. But in the context of the team, it was all good spirited and a right laugh, and everyone knew where the line was. It wasn't personal or aggressive, normally jibes on stereotypes and the likes.

    I think context goes along way, and it's worth remembering that different people have different humour and what others find offensive some might find hilarious.

    Of course it depends on what the comments are. Obviously some things are outrageously inappropriate.

    But for me personally, I find myself working mostly in diverse offices, and normally for some reason the only northside Dubliner. I'll get some stick over the stereotype, I'll give some back to southsiders or whatever. But I've never once felt seriously offended or that it impacted my reputation or work in anyway.

    Then again I suppose its hard to take from the OP's post. Normally the experiences I've had is colleagues slagging each other. For example I havn't had a case where a team collectively gives it large about muslims or islam etc.


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