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Casual racism in your place of work

  • 03-02-2015 10:48pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭


    How do you handle listening to casual racism in the work place? I am having to listen to some fairly shocking and distasteful personal views on migrants which i find quite ignorant and a little offensive. Normally i just laugh at the stupidity of such views as you hear stupid views all the time and most of the time it is just some dumb passing statement but when certain work mates express fairly detailed hatred how would or do you react to it without making a fuss?
    It is a situation that any falling out could make things a little awkward but it is frightening that people with such dumb views are working as "professional"
    Note...i ask here as I am hardly stuck up and don't mind banter but this stuff i've had to listen to is totally moronic.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭RecordStraight


    Ask them whether any of their family ever emigrated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Tell them about your black gay lover


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    Tried that one...got the old UK, USA story and it was to a place where they are "one of us"...you know the standard ape response.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭harney


    I'm not a stuck up person, but......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    I just filter out most casual conversations in work. Most of them are pretty dull. I've turned it into something of an art form where I appear to be fully engaged in the conversation but my mind is entirely elsewhere.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    Tell them about your black gay lover

    Did not try this angle...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    harney wrote: »
    I'm not a stuck up person, but......

    Ah continue...so seem to have some sort of opinion. Care to share it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Lots of casual racism here, of course being Irish means I love the drink...
    I generally get over it though cos I get free beer from the company :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    Lots of casual racism here, of course being Irish means I love the drink...
    I generally get over it though cos I get free beer from the company :)

    That is a very mild stereotype..I do not take offence at it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Tell them about your black gay lover

    Black gay Jewish Lover from China.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    Black gay Jewish Lover from China.

    need to throw polish in the mix too...really gets the venom going it seems, to Hitler levels it seems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭The Peanut


    I'm a Tipp man working in Cork; I'm on the receiving end of it for 20 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    'Sure the Polish are awful hard-working'

    I work part time in a cafe and one day 3 women with full burkas on came in. Not exactly a common sight in Ireland but I served them anyway. When they were out of ear-shot my boss whispered in my ear 'thought we were going to be bombed for a second'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    Both of the other 2 people in my office are equally as racist and bigoted as myself so it's grand. We've a great time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    Tell them you dress up as a black lesbian from Asia at the weekends, should cover all bases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    thelad95 wrote: »
    'Sure the Polish are awful hard-working'

    I work part time in a cafe and one day 3 women with full burkaso came in. Not exactly a common sight in Ireland but I served them anyway. When they were out of ear-shot my boss whispered in my ear 'thought we were going to be bombed for a second'.

    Thats pretty mild in comparison to "nuke the whole place" "You need to take them all out so there is no more" "he had the right idea..gas them all" "they are infesting the place"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    The boss has us working like blacks


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 67 ✭✭johnohanlon


    I have not heard racist comments and my last work place was about 70% foreign, just jokes about a Polish person being called Patrick, "Polish Paddy" and if the scones were "true Irish" or "true Polish", it was a bread factory you see


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    My workplace is very ordered.

    We're only allowed show our bigotry on casual racist Friday.

    Perhaps suggest that and then you'd have cut the casual racism by 80%

    Unless you work six days a week.

    I can't do the maths on that one but you should get a new job - six days a week is too much racism or no racism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 387 ✭✭berger89


    I once had a dream that I was deducted 37euro from my pay check..and to quote my pay check: "because of racism".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭pillphil


    I have not heard racist comments and my last work place was about 70% foreign, just jokes about a Polish person being called Patrick, "Polish Paddy" and if the scones were "true Irish" or "true Polish", it was a bread factory you see

    You probably heard them, you just didn't understand them. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    do you think such opinion should be sackable offences ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    berger89 wrote: »
    I once had a dream that I was deducted 37euro from my pay check..and to quote my pay check: "because of racism".

    Racist work kitty fund " for the foredinners" maybe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭Wang King


    Will Casual Racism Fridays catch on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Tell them about your black gay lover

    shouldn't that be gay black lover?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 67 ✭✭johnohanlon


    pillphil wrote: »
    You probably heard them, you just didn't understand them. :P

    yes i wouldn't be surprised, foreigners can be quite arrogant and rude but if you said anything to them you'd be called a racist and it would be around the parish like wildfire like the father ted episode


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭hfallada


    I think Irish people say stupid stuff without realising it. Like my friends friend was going on about the "puffs" and how someone was so fruity. You would think he is homophobic, but his brother is actually gay and he has zero issues with it

    Irish people need to learn to get a filter. Americans are racists in private. Irish people arent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    Wang King wrote: »
    Will Casual Racism Fridays catch on?

    I will in low brow companies ...depends on your ambition


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭Wang King


    hfallada wrote: »
    I think Irish people say stupid stuff without realising it. Like my friends friend was going on about the "puffs" and how someone was so fruity. You would think he is homophobic, but his brother is actually gay and he has zero issues with it

    Irish people need to learn to get a filter. Americans are racists in private. Irish people arent

    Fruity sugar puffs?.... The black gay honey monster strikes again!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    None, luckily


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    The Peanut wrote: »
    I'm a Tipp man working in Cork; I'm on the receiving end of it for 20 years.

    Feckin Cork men coming up here, taking our jobs and our sheep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Heard some lads in front of me in a lecture talking about how evil ISIS were for killing the pilot and the only solution to these war crimes was for the USa to step up and 'nuke the middle the east'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭cassid


    I try to go for a swim at lunch, better than listening to people bitching and moaning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Heard some lads in front of me in a lecture talking about how evil ISIS were for killing the pilot and the only solution to these war crimes was for the USa to step up and 'nuke the middle the east'

    I'd say they are just young and stupid...should well grow up in time.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    As a woman in IT I face casual sexism every day from racial minorites OP how do you fancy that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭cruais


    Just ignore the empty vessels


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    Stheno wrote: »
    As a woman in IT I face casual sexism every day from racial minorites OP how do you fancy that?

    whatcha gonna do?
    Do you have a plan?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Stheno wrote: »
    As a woman in IT I face casual sexism every day from racial minorites OP how do you fancy that?

    Tell them to fcuk off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    That is a very mild stereotype..I do not take offence at it.

    I don't, at all.

    Also a big one here is that all Asians are cheap, run really low brow establishments and are extremely difficult to get money out of on time, never mind the language barrier. Most staff here really don't like dealing with their Asian accounts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    I don't, at all.

    Also a big one here is that all Asians are cheap, run really low brow establishments and are extremely difficult to get money out of on time, never mind the language barrier. Most staff here really don't like dealing with their Asian accounts.

    That is just plain stupid


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 231 ✭✭Minjor


    I'd say they are just young and stupid...should well grow up in time.

    You'd be surprised, they're not the only ones. I've seen several users on boards today who think nukes are actually a credible solution to getting rid of ISIS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Minjor wrote: »
    You'd be surprised, they're not the only ones. I've seen several users on boards today who think nukes are actually a credible solution to getting rid of ISIS.

    have to use them somewhere and it's looking increasingly unlikely they're gonna nuke the whales.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭The other fella


    Always worked on building sites in construction and it was always just plain racism rather than "casual" racism.There was a contractor from the bogs of nowhere who had a Nigerian working for him on our site once and the racial abuse he gave him right to his face was unbelievable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    Always worked on building sites in construction and it was always just plain racism rather than "casual" racism.There was a contractor from the bogs of nowhere who had a Nigerian working for him on our site once and the racial abuse he gave him right to his face was unbelievable.

    If he was a subbie on a larger site he should have been send of site and made to jump through hoops to get what he had done up to that point signed off to be paid. He would think twice about his racism then. In fact any credible major contractor would have taken some sort of action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭The other fella


    If he was a subbie on a larger site he should have been send of site and made to jump through hoops to get what he had done up to that point signed off to be paid. He would think twice about his racism then. In fact any credible major contractor would have taken some sort of action.

    It was only a small site we were working on at the time, private job.The black man taking the abuse didnt seem too fussed but i think he just put on a brave face and stayed quiet so as not to risk his job, the recession was just coming into full swing at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    It was only a small site we were working on at the time, private job.The black man taking the abuse didnt seem too fussed but i think he just put on a brave face and stayed quiet so as not to risk his job, the recession was just coming into full swing at this stage.

    I take it the client did not witness it or the main builder. Either that or they are just as bad as him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    thelad95 wrote: »
    'Sure the Polish are awful hard-working'

    Shocking racism, that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭The Peanut


    My uncle has a warehouse and he has some men from the Ivory Coast working for him. When they started, they mainly spoke French and a little broken English. As they were being trained, they addressed my uncle as "Yes Boss"; it started out as a respectful reply but they are still saying it now, as it annoys the uncle.

    My uncle has told me that on a few occasions during audits or visits, that he has been advised by visitors - mainly females - that he really shouldn't be making them say "Yes Boss" in this day and age. They are right of course; I think it's admirable that they have the strength of their conviction to point it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭dub_skav


    hfallada wrote: »
    I think Irish people say stupid stuff without realising it. Like my friends friend was going on about the "puffs" and how someone was so fruity. You would think he is homophobic, but his brother is actually gay and he has zero issues with it

    Irish people need to learn to get a filter. Americans are racists in private. Irish people arent


    That is an odd opinion to hold

    I'd rather hear what the Irish misguidedly consider "playful banter" in public than have people be privately racist.
    At least everything is out in the open.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,465 ✭✭✭Irish Halo


    If you have emigrated when you return to Ireland you'll get used to hearing "... but that's different" i.e. Irish emigrating = OK, people emigrating to Ireland = Bad.

    I know a few people who are not originally from the UK married to UK people who's in-laws vote UKIP and think all emigrants should go home. They will say this openly but don't seem to understand that this means they want their child's husband/wife to piss off (and potentially take their grandchildren with them). I guess this happens in Ireland but have not experienced it.

    I think Michael Rosen put it well "I sometimes fear that people think that fascism arrives in fancy dress ... Fascism arrives as your friend ...
    [It will] make you feel proud ... give you a job ... It doesn't walk in saying, Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution."


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