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Dash cam saves your ass (no Roundabout stuff please :)

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  • #7262
    MarkAnthony
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    Were you on the Drumcondra road this morning at around 10am (just after as I wasn't being bold in the bus lane) in red car?

    Did you decide I was going a bit quick (which I was) and decide to sit 6" off my back bumper but in the outside lane as I was indicating for about a minute and a half that I was going to pull out?

    Did you then have a brown trousers moment when I finally decided I'd had enough and pulled out anyway?

    If so sorry, but stop being a willy head, and if you have a dash can please post it.


  • #7263
    MarkAnthony
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    josip wrote: »
    I'm finding the dashcam very useful for reviewing driving incidents during the day to check if I was right to think/react the way I did.

    At the time I thought the guy below just cut across, but from looking at the video I can see that he put on his indicator before he changed.
    Also, based on the size of the gap I'd left open up in front of me, he probably thought I was letting him in.

    Gap fine, people do cut in at the slightest invitation. Personally I've zero problem with it if they indicate I'll make a conscious effort to let people in 99% of the time. Don't indicate and I'll actively act like a knob and box you in.

    Really it just aid traffic flow if you let people 'merge like a zip'.


  • #7264
    ardle1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭ardle1


    Jesus. wrote: »
    Come on. If that's what we're reduced to in an effort to cane someone for something, then we're finished.

    A fukking Postie moving his bike up onto the footpath FFS!! :pac:

    Awh is that what we'r suppose to be watching, I thought it was the head-less man walking on the foot path :o




    eh seriously..


  • #7265
    bear1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,900 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    MarkAnthony wrote: »
    Were you on the Drumcondra road this morning at around 10am (just after as I wasn't being bold in the bus lane) in red car?

    Did you decide I was going a bit quick (which I was) and decide to sit 6" off my back bumper but in the outside lane as I was indicating for about a minute and a half that I was going to pull out?

    Did you then have a brown trousers moment when I finally decided I'd had enough and pulled out anyway?

    If so sorry, but stop being a willy head, and if you have a dash can please post it.

    Just wondering, who is this aimed at?


  • #7266
    jackofalltrades
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    josip wrote: »
    At the time I thought the guy below just cut across, but from looking at the video I can see that he put on his indicator before he changed.
    Also, based on the size of the gap I'd left open up in front of me, he probably thought I was letting him in.
    Given the blinding sun, being in the wrong lane and driving an ambulance, he probably should have stopped and waited for someone to let him out.


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  • #7267
    huggs2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭huggs2


    Waiting for the green light and this happens.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cst6xG2QopI


  • #7268
    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    I actually feel that guy was looking for trouble. He could have pulled in a few times, let the guy go and then pull back out.

    I'm not excusing the other guys behavior at all btw but the guy making the video wasn't much better.

    His setup is impressive however.

    He wasn't looking for trouble per se.

    I was taught a long time ago that road users actions can be usually be attributed to the level of immediate danger they perceive.

    A example of this is the number of cars that pull out directly in front of motorbikes versus the number of cars that pull out in front of trucks/vans. The person looks, sees a large or small threat and reacts what they feel is appropriately.

    In this case, the man felt safer with cameras involved. So he acts more relessley then he most likely would have done without them.

    You see this in a lot of dash cam vids, rather than the first act being avoidance they tend to shout/curse or hit the horn. They know they have the dashcam, so the others person "fault" will be recorded and their lack of action will be vindicated. I'm aware that their are others that don't do this, but there are good and bad drivers.

    A really really good example of that is the nutter cyclist that flys around Dublin. Truck about to crush you against a wall? Cycle into danger shouting at the driver. Van about to blindside you into a bus? Take your hand off the front brake and hit the van while shouting at it. Completely normal actions now to him.


  • #7269
    Vic_08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,102 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Cuddlesworth wrote: »
    He wasn't looking for trouble per se.

    I was taught a long time ago that road users actions can be usually be attributed to the level of immediate danger they perceive.

    A example of this is the number of cars that pull out directly in front of motorbikes versus the number of cars that pull out in front of trucks/vans. The person looks, sees a large or small threat and reacts what they feel is appropriately.

    In this case, the man felt safer with cameras involved. So he acts more relessley then he most likely would have done without them.

    You see this in a lot of dash cam vids, rather than the first act being avoidance they tend to shout/curse or hit the horn. They know they have the dashcam, so the others person "fault" will be recorded and their lack of action will be vindicated. I'm aware that their are others that don't do this, but there are good and bad drivers.

    A really really good example of that is the nutter cyclist that flys around Dublin. Truck about to crush you against a wall? Cycle into danger shouting at the driver. Van about to blindside you into a bus? Take your hand off the front brake and hit the van while shouting at it. Completely normal actions now to him.

    In other words; Looking for trouble.

    Look at that guy's other youtube clips, he is nothing more than a pathetic road warrior itching for someone to do something he perceives as wrong so he can stick the clip up all the while ignoring his own poor driving. In that clip as well as others he hogs the overtaking lanes then gets sanctimonious about people tailgating.


  • #7270
    Daaryl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Daaryl


    What do ye all make of this one?



  • #7271
    gutteruu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭gutteruu


    Daaryl wrote: »
    What do ye all make of this one?


    Slow inconsiderate driver pisses someone off into driving badly. Same root cause as most videos on here. Everyone is wrong. To be fair passat was very impatient.


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  • #7272
    nomeban
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 115 ✭✭nomeban


    My first dash cam video ... no explosions or anything, sorry!

    Just an ignorant bus driver.

    He should have pulled in to let me pass on the narrow road (cars were on his side, that's the rule right? Correct me if I'm wrong) but he kept going and I had to mount the footpath.

    I couldn't reverse as there were cars behind me.

    It looks like he has plenty of space in the video but the wide angle lens stretches the road out a bit.

    What a C.

    By the way I know I have to give the windscreen a wash. :cool:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrmZ_Xs2vVY


  • #7273
    Falcon L
    Closed Accounts Posts: 891 ✭✭✭Falcon L


    I think I'd have sat there until he backed the fook up.


  • #7274
    Ken.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    This is a real bug bear of mine. People who should pull in keep coming towards you. I swore a few months ago that the next time it happens and its low enough speed I'm gonna let it happen and take the fückers to the cleaners.


  • #7275
    nomeban
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 115 ✭✭nomeban


    Falcon L wrote: »
    I think I'd have sat there until he backed the fook up.

    Yeah I was thinking of doing that, but I wasn't sure if that rule about pulling in if there are cars blocking your side of the road is actually the law or if it's just an unofficial recommendation like "you should blink the hazards to say thanks!".

    Is it actually a "Rule of the Road"?

    Anyway, Mr. Bus won ... this time...


  • #7276
    CreepingDeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    Now I've no love of Audi drivers, they tend to be aggressive tailgating feckers at the best of times... anyways, this Audi in front of me got a scare tonight.
    He started sliding and had to mount the traffic island to avoid rear-ending the car in front.

    In fairness, my ABS had to work hard to stop me too.
    He nearly slid into another car as his dismounted the traffic island too.

    N7, Junction 2 westbound sliproad, 17:10 or so today.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJdSl6NE9v4


  • #7277
    ngcxt6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 122 ✭✭ngcxt6


    In relation to slow and elderly drivers, I know we all find it extremely irritating, but just remember that they have every right to be there plodding along as you do.

    And keep in mind that when you're over 60 and you're not as fit and active as a 25 year old that you will probably be plodding along like this too.

    My grandad has every licence from motorbike through to artic lorry and worked regularly, and was a professional driver with the army. When he got to 65 his eyesight just wasn't the same and now he plods along because that's what he's best able to do. Regularly has to put up with aggression from other drivers.

    Not fair either imo


  • #7278
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,593 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    ngcxt6 wrote: »
    My grandad has every licence from motorbike through to artic lorry and worked regularly, and was a professional driver with the army. When he got to 65 his eyesight just wasn't the same and now he plods along because that's what he's best able to do.

    Or maybe he shouldn't be on the road full stop... There comes a point for everyone when they just no longer can drive safely, especially if vision is compromised.


  • #7279
    MarkAnthony
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    Or maybe he shouldn't be on the road full stop... There comes a point for everyone when they just no longer can drive safely, especially if vision is compromised.

    17-34 and from 50 onwards in the case of most men.


  • #7280
    Vic_08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,102 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    ngcxt6 wrote: »
    In relation to slow and elderly drivers, I know we all find it extremely irritating, but just remember that they have every right to be there plodding along as you do.

    And keep in mind that when you're over 60 and you're not as fit and active as a 25 year old that you will probably be plodding along like this too.

    My grandad has every licence from motorbike through to artic lorry and worked regularly, and was a professional driver with the army. When he got to 65 his eyesight just wasn't the same and now he plods along because that's what he's best able to do. Regularly has to put up with aggression from other drivers.

    Not fair either imo

    The world isn't fair.

    It is this "entitlement" nonsense that is the problem. No-one is entitled to be on the road unless they can drive to a reasonable standard. If your grandfather's eyesight is bad then he shouldn't be driving at all. Would he pass the medical to renew his licence (without the help of the family doctor)?

    I have every sympathy for people in that position but I somehow doubt that a former professional driver would be regularly subject to aggression from others if his health was not seriously affecting his driving ability.


  • #7281
    Long Time Lurker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Long Time Lurker


    CreepingDeath wrote: »
    Now I've no love of Audi drivers, they tend to be aggressive tailgating feckers at the best of times... anyways, this Audi in front of me got a scare tonight.
    He started sliding and had to mount the traffic island to avoid rear-ending the car in front.

    In fairness, my ABS had to work hard to stop me too.
    He nearly slid into another car as his dismounted the traffic island too.

    N7, Junction 2 westbound sliproad, 17:10 or so today.

    To be fair it was good avoidance in the end. Annnnnd ....

    .... the abs actually caused his problem, not helped it. But like yourself really, a Common misconception made about abs is (like you thought) it stops you quicker. It doesn't. Infact it can have the total opposite effect on slippery surfaces. What it does allow you to do is keep control of the car by allowing the steering wheels to continue steering because they don't lock up. In heavy snow you'll actually stop quicker without abs as the snow builds up in front of locked up tyres which in turn helps to bring the vehicle to a halt.

    Might be better to learn what your own car is actually doing and how its reacting before passing judgment on others ;-)


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  • #7282
    ngcxt6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 122 ✭✭ngcxt6


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    Or maybe he shouldn't be on the road full stop... There comes a point for everyone when they just no longer can drive safely, especially if vision is compromised.
    Vic_08 wrote: »
    The world isn't fair.

    It is this "entitlement" nonsense that is the problem. No-one is entitled to be on the road unless they can drive to a reasonable standard. If your grandfather's eyesight is bad then he shouldn't be driving at all. Would he pass the medical to renew his licence (without the help of the family doctor)?

    I have every sympathy for people in that position but I somehow doubt that a former professional driver would be regularly subject to aggression from others if his health was not seriously affecting his driving ability.

    Yes he's medically cleared to drive and receives regular eye tests. My other grandparent who's eyesight is perfect also drives slowly.

    Really there's no excuse for being an arsehole to somebody, dangerously overtaking or tailgating or beeping/flashing just because they're driving slower than you. Likewise, have some patience for learner drivers.


  • #7283
    gutteruu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭gutteruu


    ngcxt6 wrote: »
    Really there's no excuse for being an arsehole to somebody, dangerously overtaking or tailgating or beeping/flashing just because they're driving slower than you. Likewise, have some patience for learner drivers.

    The roads can't operate at the speed of the oldest slowest blindest driver. There is a normal speed below which you are a danger by causing people to overtake, swerve etc. Look back through the thousands of videos here and you will see that.

    As much as I would like to lazy away my days at 20mph, I have to drive over 1k miles a week. Is your grandfather going to put food on my kids table. Saying "ah leave him at it" versus my income, well, I fall into your category above.

    As for learners, I think most drivers understand and give them all the time in the world.


  • #7284
    MarkAnthony
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    gutteruu wrote: »
    The roads can't operate at the speed of the oldest slowest blindest driver. There is a normal speed below which you are a danger by causing people to overtake, swerve etc. Look back through the thousands of videos here and you will see that.

    As much as I would like to lazy away my days at 20mph, I have to drive over 1k miles a week. Is your grandfather going to put food on my kids table. Saying "ah leave him at it" versus my income, well, I fall into your category above.

    As for learners, I think most drivers understand and give them all the time in the world.

    Not this horsesh!t again.


  • #7285
    gutteruu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭gutteruu


    MarkAnthony wrote: »
    Not this horsesh!t again.

    Things ok at home? You seem a little tense.


  • #7286
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,750 ✭✭✭✭josip


    gutteruu wrote: »
    Things ok at home? You seem a little tense.

    It hasn't been an easy 24 hours.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057370881


  • #7287
    Jesus.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    gutteruu wrote: »
    The roads can't operate at the speed of the oldest slowest blindest driver. There is a normal speed below which you are a danger by causing people to overtake, swerve etc. Look back through the thousands of videos here and you will see that.As much as I would like to lazy away my days at 20mph, I have to drive over 1k miles a week. Is your grandfather going to put food on my kids table. Saying "ah leave him at it" versus my income, well, I fall into your category above.As for learners, I think most drivers understand and give them all the time in the world.

    Worst post I've ever read on here by far :o


  • #7288
    dashcamdanny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭dashcamdanny


    Any chance you can all slag off oul wans on another thread.


  • #7289
    Taylor365
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭Taylor365


    LOL

    Even when approaching a red light, people in this country floor it. :pac:


  • #7290
    Caliden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Not sure if this is a car only thread but a motorcyclist was lucky to be alive after a red light runner.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr6R5dQa8hY


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  • #7291
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Caliden wrote: »
    Not sure if this is a car only thread but a motorcyclist was lucky to be alive after a red light runner.

    At least an 8 out of 10 for the landing, maybe 8.5.


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