Should Ireland welcome Ukraine refugees?

Egginacup · 29-01-2015 02:23AM #1

Now that the Obama orchestrated coup in Kiev is going horribly wrong and is playing out as yet another depressingly predictable example of American "**** the world and **** little people" mentality which has caused 800,000 refugees to seek sanctuary in Russia, the whole effort to have nazis in Kiev control all of Ukraine looks like a fantasy.

The people of Donbass are a hell of a lot more interested in fighting to the death to stay alive than the conscripts being rounded up in Kiev are to risk their lives.

http://www.kyivpost.com/multimedia/photo/ukraine-hides-devastating-losses-as-russia-backed-rebels-surge-forwards-378321.html

So.....with Ukraine forces depleted, lacking in not only a motive but the morale to kill every Novorussian in Kiev in order to comply with Washington's wishes, they are deserting and becoming refugees.

Should Ireland accept as refugees conscripts who just want to stay alive rather than most certainly die if forced to fight against a people they are ordered to exterminate?

pablomakaveli · 29-01-2015 02:25AM

Thinly veiled propaganda thread.

Iranoutofideas · 29-01-2015 02:26AM

I'll gladly open my door to those poor terrified drop dead gorgeous Ukrainian women.

RobYourBuilder · 29-01-2015 02:27AM

Depends on the individuals situation. But if they meet the criteria for refugee status, then sure.

Arsemageddon · 29-01-2015 02:32AM

You forgot to use the word sheeple in your post OP

Gatling · 29-01-2015 02:34AM

Sure why not we take in plenty of Russians fleeing persecution in there own country why not take in Ukrainians been attacked by russia

Gatling · 29-01-2015 02:36AM

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BlaasForRafa · 29-01-2015 03:02AM

Egginacup wrote: »

Now that the Obama orchestrated coup in Kiev is going horribly wrong and is playing out as yet another depressingly predictable example of American "**** the world and **** little people" mentality which has caused 800,000 refugees to seek sanctuary in Russia, the whole effort to have nazis in Kiev control all of Ukraine looks like a fantasy.

Huh, guess you get all your news from RT, the stuff that filters through the gaps in your tinfoil hat anyway.

(When you get a chance how about some evidence for that claim you made about the afghan pipeline hmm?)

DoYouEvenLift · 29-01-2015 03:10AM

Yes.

Lenin Skynard · 29-01-2015 03:38AM

Yeah the Ukranians I've met seem like a grand bunch of lads/ladeens. Their neighbours who have come here have improved the place so they may as well come too.

cerastes · 29-01-2015 03:58AM

No, its not the entire Ukraine under a threat of war, its not an expanding front. why would they not move to another part of the Ukraine? Why cross every country between here and there to come here, we can't even manage what's going on here, so no. Doesn't really matter if they are sound or not, I'm sure they are, why would that matter.

SeanW · 29-01-2015 10:52AM

No need. The Russian-Ukrainians (colonists) can go back to Russia where they belong, whereas the Ukrainian Ukrainians can go towards Kyiv and suchlike Western Ukrainian cities.

And why would we take deserters?

bear1 · 29-01-2015 10:57AM

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Thinly veiled propaganda thread.

Wouldn't even call it thinly.

MonkeyTennis · 29-01-2015 11:04AM

You had me at 'coup' nonsense man

BoJack Horseman · 29-01-2015 11:09AM

Egg 'the West is evil but I still live here' inacup is in the hizzle!

So before this gets locked..
I think almost all displace Ukrainians are within the country or in Russia.

Apropos of whatever:
After Syrians, the 2nd most common nationality claiming asylum in Europe?...... Russians.

biko · 29-01-2015 11:20AM

Only female refugees accepted.

Duggy747 · 29-01-2015 11:40AM

This thread seems more like a stab at America than one about refugees.

Herb Powell · 29-01-2015 12:13PM

If they meet the criteria, yes, but as others have mentioned, it's only in the east at the moment, so they're not totally ****ed. I'm not trying to trivialise the situation of anyone who has lost their home or family, but as it is the whole country is not yet a no-go zone. That said I would welcome any who did decide it was unsafe and came to Ireland, or anywhere in the EU.

Grayson · 29-01-2015 12:18PM

For ages I thought that Egginacup was a paid russian shill.

But he (she?) actually believes this stuff.

The Backwards Man · 29-01-2015 12:22PM

Duggy747 wrote: »

This thread seems more like a stab at America than one about refugees.

I was very surprised that it did.

Paddy Samurai · 29-01-2015 12:41PM

Yes ,provided they meet the criteria ,are willing to assimilate and the number allowed in is limited in relation to our population size and resources.

29-01-2015 12:45PM

bear1 wrote: »

Wouldn't even call it thinly.

Or veiled

super_furry · 29-01-2015 01:11PM

Obama blamed inside the first four words. Nice work!

bb1234567 · 29-01-2015 01:18PM

why ukrainian? surely syrian refugees would benefit more... ukrainians have more choice, and the 'war' there is much less widespread and bloody

bear1 · 29-01-2015 01:21PM

Egginacup is one of those posters where everything is a propoganda and fcuk America etc.
Every one of his/her posts are somewhat aimed at attacking the States or some other "western" power and how it is all done to oppress the poor little people trapped in the caves.
As one poster has already pointed out, this thread seems to be more directed at America bashing than the actual thread title.
How long will this thread last I wonder?

Mesrine65 · 29-01-2015 01:23PM

Paddy Samurai wrote: »

Yes ,provided they meet the criteria ,are willing to assimilate and the number allowed in is limited in relation to our population size and resources.

Fair enough, but where does it all end?

We can barely sustain our own population with regards to social housing, social welfare & our health system is at breaking point.

Call me a rascist if you will, but it's time to curtail the influx of non-nationals until we get our own house in order IMHO

Wibbs · 29-01-2015 02:10PM

Grayson wrote: »

For ages I thought that Egginacup was a paid russian shill.

But he (she?) actually believes this stuff.

The best shills do, paid or not. You see similar with Israeli shills(Oh oh that'll have them come a running). meanwhile how Russia has a long history of this kind of misdirection. No doubt the BBC will be said to be anti Russia...

MonkeyTennis · 29-01-2015 02:12PM

Mesrine65 wrote: »

Fair enough, but where does it all end?

We can barely sustain our own population with regards to social housing, social welfare & our health system is at breaking point.

Call me a rascist if you will, but it's time to curtail the influx of non-nationals until we get our own house in order IMHO

You are a racist

The Diabolical Monocle · 29-01-2015 02:16PM

Non-white president of majority non-white population in nazi sponsorship shocker.

free iodine tablet in this weeks copy.

Should Ireland welcome Ukraine refugees?

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