Shake my hand. No you Scumbag.

efb · 29-01-2015 01:57AM

Roundhouse

berger89 · 29-01-2015 01:59AM

jeez, yiz are all fair ignorant. what's the chap's weight got to do with anything? anyway, you did right. I would have done the same. why should he make small talk with anyone, especially junkies?
the less said, the better. if you engage with them, you're only encouraging. lived in dublin for long enough to know this. wouldn't give many drunks, junkies, general knob heads the time of day.

and i wouldn't call it banter. who gives a flying fook the price of chips…if you can't afford it, get the hell out of the shop. whats yer man supposed to do. hate that crap. working in retail is the same **** every day. i.don't.care.about. the.price.of.teabags. piss off out of my face!

deco nate · 29-01-2015 02:04AM

Oops69 wrote: »

Would you not have 'egg and chips' for your tea , 'stead of a 'fish supper'? , you some kind of Geordie basted or what?

What's wrong with Geordies?!!
What, ya didn't get yer hole in the big market???
GAY!!!

MarkAnthony · 29-01-2015 02:05AM

AngryHippie wrote: »

Someone needed to go home and have a little rage fap.

That whole situation could have been avoided fairly easily. No harm in a bit of banter with the local scobies.

Did you ever wonder if their attitude and substance abuse was somehow linked to the despair they might have felt their entire lives since the day they realised they were have-nots and were going to be left behind by an ever increasing level of snobbery and disdain from a thoughtless middle class anduntouchable upper class ?
Most random rows I have seen involving drunks or junkies are down to someone treating them like they were a piece of sh1t, and there have been times when I was glad to see some stuck-up bellend getting a little reminder that there but for the grace of god go you or I.
Treat people with dignity and respect and you usually get it back.

Maybe it's time that you started looking at the uncomfortable truths about that gap in society between the well-heeld and educated, and the track-suited negelcted(whether by themselves or society), Rather than slapping yourself on the back for being suited and tied.

I treat people as they treat me (well not at work but then I'm paid to be nice.) I ran several shops in my previous career, one in Dun Laoghaire (Near the methadone clinic), one on Henry St., one in the Ilac, trained for one company in Liffey street. >95% of the time if I had someone who had a substance abuse problem they were absolutely grand, they treated me and by staff with respect and were treated the same. The assumption always was that they were going to behave, they needed to do something to kill that assumption.

It was even commented on in a meeting about how we'd always let this lad bring stuff back to us and we'd swap it over for him because he couldn't read. Many people used to tell me I was being taken for a ride, I knew I wasn't.

Giving away where I live a bit more and where this happened, Oliver Bond is right behind me, there's a Simon community on the corner and the Bridgefoot flats. Many of the people in the area are dealing with some sort of disadvantage you bring up in your post. 99.99% of them would never get in someone's face for the craic. 99.99% of them are decent hard working people. I've had some contact with some of them through a community project we're all involved in. And of course through walking through the area where I always feel safe.

I'm 100% with you on the social inequality issue, that said that doesn't translate into an excuse for being threatening and intimidating. It wasn't my intention to turn this thread this serious or go on about all that **** I just wrote above but your post seemed genuine so I thought I'd give you a genuine reply.

Oyva bigwan · 29-01-2015 02:05AM

Ahh heeorrr leave er ouuhh

blatantrereg · 29-01-2015 02:08AM

You felt threatened and reacted violently.
It's no braver than letting yourself be intimidated.
Bravery means not being controlled by fear one way or another. Braver to stand your ground than to lash out.

MarkAnthony · 29-01-2015 02:11AM

blatantrereg wrote: »

You felt threatened and reacted violently.
It's no braver than letting yourself be intimidated.
Bravery means not being controlled by fear one way or another. Braver to stand your ground than to lash out.

I'm thanking most of the posts as I'm enjoying most of the jabs so thanking yours didn't convey that I wanted to say I think you're bang on with that.

Kerplunk124 · 29-01-2015 02:12AM

This has been a beautiful read

Ging Ging · 29-01-2015 02:13AM

punisher5112 wrote:

Maybe the chipper person didn't call the cops because there fingers were too fat to dial.

All 3 of them should have been skyted with hot oil until they left the premises.

pablo128 · 29-01-2015 02:17AM

I once saw a chipper owner in Ballyfermot get threatened by some dirtbird. He went outside and bet lumps out of your man. Never heard anything more about it. He never got threatened again either.

I know as I play football with his brother.

Maximus Alexander · 29-01-2015 02:18AM

pablo128 wrote: »

I once saw a chipper owner in Ballyfermot get threatened by some dirtbird. He went outside and bet lumps out of your man. Never heard anything more about it. He never got threatened again either.

I know as I play football with his brother.

Yeah but what did he weigh?

RobYourBuilder · 29-01-2015 02:20AM

MarkAnthony wrote: »

Any yours of that sense of inverted snobbery.

If you humoured him and engaged him in some small talk; nothing would have happened. Now you're going to be looking over your shoulder everytime you waddle in and out of the office.

dave1982 · 29-01-2015 02:21AM

MarkAnthony wrote: »

So I'm in the chipper after work, maybe 10pm. Sitting there in my suit and tie waiting for me fish supper. Two socioeconomically challenged gentlemen walk into the establishment and start being low level dicks. Not my problem I sit there on the stool minding my own business.

Clearly both of them enjoy the odd tipple of more than the few beers they have in their hands. Again absolutely none of my business, but you know that habit Dublin junkies have of believing they're Oliver Bond's answer to Oscar Wilde one of them tries to engage with me over what he believes to be the shocking price of chips. I just shake my head and say 'dunno'. He walks back up to the counter and I resume my staring into space.

His mate walks past me towards the counter and says "Don't be shaking your head at him" not referring to my previous encounter but that his mate is not on at the guy behind the counter. Being rather late my reply was rather blunt "I'm not shaking my head at him but I'll shake my head at who the f**k I like thanks."

Anyways much squaring up and me telling them to step back later I've launched one of the scrawny ****es across the chip shop. Few mutual digs his mate decides (probably because at this point their beers are spraying everywhere coupled with the fact that I'm 6'2 and 18 stone so by sheer weight I getting the upper hand) that he's going to break it up.

Anyway what's irking me more than the moron behind the counter not calling the guards is these Scumbags were giving out because I wouldn't shake their fecking hands. You've just assaulted (and by the way I'm fully aware of the legal definition) me because I'm in a suit and tie and you thought you could be intimidating.

If you got to the end of this well done. Fully looking forward to some closure AH p!ss take style.

And then the shrooms wore off

berger89 · 29-01-2015 02:24AM

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

If you humoured him and engaged him in some small talk; nothing would have happened.

when is this ever true?? by engaging, you're encouraging them.
less said, the better.

Pat Mustard · 29-01-2015 02:24AM

Sounds like a pair of criminals bit off more than they could chew.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YMPAH67f4o

Kettleson · 29-01-2015 02:26AM

Gotta be a contender for Thread Title of The Year 2015.

MarkAnthony · 29-01-2015 02:26AM

One more anecdote to bore you all to death with. Proving for some I'm a stuck up middle class c**t, frankly believe what you like I know where I came from, am proud of it and know I sometimes make snap judgements on people. If you don't fair play to you. Ooops sorry just made a snap judgement you're a liar. Anyways my final post before bed.

On the luas one day and there is a howya being a bit loud just down from me. Not annoying anyone on purpose just being a bit loud. He's with his wife/partner and little kid in the buggy and I do admit I was getting a bit annoyed at him being loud, just home from work etc. but he's not in my space and I'm not in his, but impute what you'll impute about my negative feelings for the chap.

Anyways, an Asian couple get on and sit down opposite two guys in suits (I know they must be evil!) to my shock the two suits make some incredible racist remarks giving out about the audacity of the asian couple actually sitting on the seats near them when they were quite happy spreading out.

Cue Mr. Loud Howya bounding over and saying "You ever ****ing say something like that infront of my kid again and I'll knock your ****ing heads off."

I really wish I had shook the man's hand.

conorh91 · 29-01-2015 02:29AM

MarkAnthony wrote: »

One more anecdote to bore you all to death with. Proving for some I'm a stuck up middle class c**t, frankly believe what you like I know where I came from, am proud of it and know I sometimes make snap judgements on people. If you don't fair play to you. Ooops sorry just made a snap judgement you're a liar. Anyways my final post before bed.

On the luas one day and there is a howya being a bit loud just down from me. Not annoying anyone on purpose just being a bit loud. He's with his wife/partner and little kid in the buggy and I do admit I was getting a bit annoyed at him being loud, just home from work etc. but he's not in my space and I'm not in his, but impute what you'll impute about my negative feelings for the chap.

Anyways, an Asian couple get on and sit down opposite two guys in suits (I know they must be evil!) to my shock the two suits make some incredible racist remarks giving out about the audacity of the asian couple actually sitting on the seats near them when they were quite happy spreading out.

Cue My. Loud Howya bounding over and saying "You ever ****ing say something like that infront of my kid again and I'll knock your ****ing heads off."

I really wish I had shook the man's hand.

Nice recovery.

I couldn't really pay attention though, I'm absolutely starving for chips right now.

29-01-2015 02:32AM

your right tubby OP , I wouldn't shake your hand either.

what with you being a complete dick to people, fighting in public and from a disadvantaged area etc.

I'd like to say I feel sorry for you but i'd be lying....

MarkAnthony · 29-01-2015 02:33AM

conorh91 wrote: »

Nice recovery.

I couldn't really pay attention though, I'm absolutely starving for chips right now.

Just avoid the chipper just across the road (and river) and up a bit from where I imagine you spend most of your working day Conor.

Night all.

moc moc a moc · 29-01-2015 02:34AM

MarkAnthony wrote: »

"You ever ****ing say something like that infront of my kid again and I'll knock your ****ing heads off."

The irony.

Eramen · 29-01-2015 02:40AM

berger89 wrote: »

If you humoured him and engaged him in some small talk; nothing would have happened.

when is this ever true?? by engaging, you're encouraging them.
less said, the better.

What a load of crap. This is the 'new Ireland' where everyone is fixated on their own personal gain, pretending they are somebody important as they stare vainly at their smartphones for the latest social media nonsense. Nobody is willing to put themselves 'out there' anymore to engage with each other as a society. Spontaneous sociability is on the wane, and so are the rewards of such activity.

It's fairly screwed up how selfish we've become in a matter of a couple of decades. And we wonder why the latest generation is a pack of anti-social blowhards.

IvaBigWun · 29-01-2015 02:40AM

This ranks as one of the most badly written OPs (and this is AH ffs!) Ive seen on here. Your narration of the events is baffling.

Like a Trent story without the funny.

Next!

RobYourBuilder · 29-01-2015 02:47AM

Eramen wrote: »

What a load of crap. This is the 'new Ireland' where everyone is fixated on their own personal gain, pretending they are somebody important as they stare vainly at their smartphones for the latest social media nonsense. Nobody is willing to put themselves 'out there' anymore to engage with each other as a society. Spontaneous sociability is on the wain, and so are the rewards of such activity.

It's fairly screwed up how selfish we've become in a matter of a couple of decades. And people wonder why the latest generation is a pack of anti-social blowhards.

Dublin city. A place known for its literary greats, night life and the fast wit of the natives. Just don't try and strike up a conversation with anyone.

RobYourBuilder · 29-01-2015 02:49AM

MarkAnthony wrote: »

Just avoid the chipper just across the road (and river) and up a bit from where I imagine you spend most of your working day Conor.

Night all.

The fryery?

berger89 · 29-01-2015 02:50AM

Eramen wrote: »

berger89 wrote: »

What a load of crap. This is the 'new Ireland' where everyone is fixated on their own personal gain, pretending they are somebody important as they stare vainly at their smartphones for the latest social media nonsense. Nobody is willing to put themselves 'out there' anymore to engage with each other as a society.

It's fairly screwed up how selfish we've become in a matter of a couple of decades. And people people wonder why the latest generation is a pack of anti-social blowhards.

Not a load of crap what so ever. Not one of these snobby swipe phone smart phones fools either. I choose not to engage with drunkards and junkies…because of past experiences. It's not very nice being called derogatory names by the previously mentioned groups..just because you don't agree with what they say. At a luas stop the other day, a guy was waiting at the machines with a cup, begging. I chose to ignore him, he left me alone. my friend on the other hand, gave him change..and after that, he wouldn't stop pestering her until the luas came.
I choose not to engage with those I feel may be a danger to me. Is that a crime?
I am not of the latest generation who are stuck so far up their own hole they can smell their ****. today in fact I was chatting with a brother of my colleague. he's 13. we were talking about snapchat and he was telling me he was "being social" and "talking and chatting" with people on it. he had over 50,000 points to my measly 3,000… and he said he was being social? and it is a form of talking?

MarkAnthony · 29-01-2015 02:57AM

Eramen wrote: »

What a load of crap. This is the 'new Ireland' where everyone is fixated on their own personal gain, pretending they are somebody important as they stare vainly at their smartphones for the latest social media nonsense. Nobody is willing to put themselves 'out there' anymore to engage with each other as a society. Spontaneous sociability is on the wane, and so are the rewards of such activity.

It's fairly screwed up how selfish we've become in a matter of a couple of decades with complete public deracination from other people becoming more common. And we wonder why the latest generation is a pack of anti-social blowhards.

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

Dublin city. A place known for its literary greats, night life and the fast wit of the natives. Just don't try and strike up a conversation with anyone.

Sorry I couldn't resist and had a log in and saw this. Lads are you for real, really?

This wasn't some inebriated guy in a pub being a bit over friendly this was a guy who walked in and immediately, unprompted and without any provocation started to be rude to the guy behind the counter. The second guy didn't say "Ah here you're not very friendly/a bit rude, he got into my face and gave me an order to try and be intimidating.

There's been some people who've been supportive of what I did, some people who thing I was just as a big a scumbag both have valid points of view. You two though, seriously.

Even if you do belive the ****e you're spouting on - do you really think it's acceptable to get into someone's face in an intimidating way when they've said absolutely nothing rude to you, even if you do perceive a slight from the way they're dressed/sitting? Lads come off it.

MarkAnthony · 29-01-2015 03:05AM

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

your right tubby OP , I wouldn't shake your hand either.

what with you being a complete dick to people, fighting in public and from a disadvantaged area etc.

I'd like to say I feel sorry for you but i'd be lying....

Complete dick by sitting there, saying nothing?

Fighting in public, you have a point.

From a disadvantaged area is a reason you wouldn't shake my hand, and I'm the dick to people?

AngryHippie · 29-01-2015 03:05AM

MarkAnthony wrote: »

I treat people as they treat me

Fair enough.

Just be careful out there. There is nothing more dangerous than a scobie who has had half of a hiding. I would not consider it to be over.

Eramen · 29-01-2015 03:05AM

MarkAnthony wrote: »

Sorry I couldn't resist and had a log in and saw this. Lads are you for real, really?

This wasn't some inebriated guy in a pub being a bit over friendly this was a guy who walked in and immediately, unprompted and without any provocation started to be rude to the guy behind the counter. The second guy didn't say "Ah here you're not very friendly/a bit rude, he got into my face and gave me an order to try and be intimidating.

There's been some people who've been supportive of what I did, some people who thing I was just as a big a scumbag both have valid points of view. You two though, seriously.

Even if you do belive the ****e you're spouting on - do you really think it's acceptable to get into someone's face in an intimidating way when they've said absolutely nothing rude to you, even if you do perceive a slight from the way they're dressed/sitting? Lads come off it.

I read your OP, and I consider both parties to be rude/idiotic. It's a situation that could've been avoided by both sides being civil and showing due cop on.

Yes, their attitude and habitual problems (alcohol related) are certainly more/highly problematic but it doesn't absolve you from the fact that what you did could easily be interpreted as being quite rude.

Shake my hand. No you Scumbag.

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