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Judge renames child

  • 27-01-2015 12:07AM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭


    A judge in Valenciennes, northern France, took a tough stance against a couple who tried to call their child Nutella in September 2014, after a "shocked" registrar reported their choice to the local prosecutor.

    La Voix du Nord newspaper reported that the judge said giving the child "the name of a chocolate spread" was against the girl’s interests, as it “might lead to mockery and unpleasant remarks”. He also noted that the name Nutella is the official brand name of the chocolate spread product.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-parents-banned-from-naming-their-child-nutella-or-fraise-10003146.html


    Is he also changing the names of all kids called Muhammad who face discrimination in France?

    I wonder if the girl was a muslim would he have changed her religion so as to avoid any "mockery and unpleasant remarks"?

    We may aswell just scrap names and go by our social security numbers so situations like this won't arise and we can eliminate bullying and offense completely.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    K4t wrote: »
    A judge in Valenciennes, northern France, took a tough stance against a couple who tried to call their child Nutella in September 2014, after a "shocked" registrar reported their choice to the local prosecutor.

    La Voix du Nord newspaper reported that the judge said giving the child "the name of a chocolate spread" was against the girl’s interests, as it “might lead to mockery and unpleasant remarks”. He also noted that the name Nutella is the official brand name of the chocolate spread product.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-parents-banned-from-naming-their-child-nutella-or-fraise-10003146.html


    Is he also changing the names of all kids called Muhammad who face discrimination in France?

    I wonder if the girl was a muslim would he have changed her religion so as to avoid any "mockery and unpleasant remarks"?

    We may aswell just scrap names and go by our social security numbers so situations like this won't arise and we can eliminate bullying and offense completely.
    Nutella is a retarded name. Don't be silly OP.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 9,904 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Somewhere a boy named Sue is finally happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    They'd nickname the child Nutty

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭Honey Monster


    Wow. Stunning OP. You should apply for a job at the daily Mail because I think you'd fit right in.

    Worst
    Thread
    Ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Nutella is a retarded name. Don't be silly OP.
    It's a great name. Don't be silly.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Buzz Meeks


    Good call there by Judge Kelkin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,831 ✭✭✭degsie


    So OP, what do YOU think?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Venus In Furs


    K4t wrote: »
    Is he also changing the names of all kids called Muhammad who face discrimination in France?

    I wonder if the girl was a muslim would he have changed her religion so as to avoid any "mockery and unpleasant remarks"?
    What is it with these rhetorical questions regarding a scenario that probably won't happen? No and no.
    A religion isn't a name so not an honest comparison.
    We may aswell just scrap names and go by our social security numbers so situations like this won't arise and we can eliminate bullying and offense completely.
    Yeh, people taking offence is the problem rather than people being on the receiving end. And down with preventing easy targets for bullying.
    What about that Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii kid? Sometimes the child with the actual name is more important than the principle about nobody having the right to be offended or whatever.

    Let's not scrap names/go by social security numbers, let's just not be selfish enough to give a small kid a name that they'll be ashamed to say is theirs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    K4t wrote: »
    A judge in Valenciennes, northern France, took a tough stance against a couple who tried to call their child Nutella in September 2014, after a "shocked" registrar reported their choice to the local prosecutor.

    La Voix du Nord newspaper reported that the judge said giving the child "the name of a chocolate spread" was against the girl’s interests, as it “might lead to mockery and unpleasant remarks”. He also noted that the name Nutella is the official brand name of the chocolate spread product.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-parents-banned-from-naming-their-child-nutella-or-fraise-10003146.html


    Is he also changing the names of all kids called Muhammad who face discrimination in France?

    I wonder if the girl was a muslim would he have changed her religion so as to avoid any "mockery and unpleasant remarks"?

    We may aswell just scrap names and go by our social security numbers so situations like this won't arise and we can eliminate bullying and offense completely.

    I think Muslims would be more offended by the name of their prophet being compared to that of a chocolate spread.

    Seriously OP, cop on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭dpofloinn


    Over react much OP?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭The other fella


    K4t wrote: »
    A judge in Valenciennes, northern France, took a tough stance against a couple who tried to call their child Nutella in September 2014, after a "shocked" registrar reported their choice to the local prosecutor.

    La Voix du Nord newspaper reported that the judge said giving the child "the name of a chocolate spread" was against the girl’s interests, as it “might lead to mockery and unpleasant remarks”. He also noted that the name Nutella is the official brand name of the chocolate spread product.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-parents-banned-from-naming-their-child-nutella-or-fraise-10003146.html


    Is he also changing the names of all kids called Muhammad who face discrimination in France?

    I wonder if the girl was a muslim would he have changed her religion so as to avoid any "mockery and unpleasant remarks"?

    We may aswell just scrap names and go by our social security numbers so situations like this won't arise and we can eliminate bullying and offense completely.

    Your SSN should be kept private.Using it as your name is worse than calling your child Nutella.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭Arbiter of Good Taste


    Offended much OP?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    Nutella with bananas on toast is Fcukin secks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    Her brother Marmite is gonna be devastated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭VandC


    Panthro wrote:
    Nutella with bananas on toast is Fcukin secks.


    have it on a crepe! much better


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Venus In Furs


    Yeh OP how come it's ok for you to be offended?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,417 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Nutella is pants


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Didn't someone call their child 'Facebook' 'hashtag' before?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    K4t wrote: »
    It's a great name. Don't be silly.

    For a chocolate spread. For a person it's a really terrible name.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭Miss Demeanour


    Yeh OP how come it's ok for you to be offended?

    Shush you......leave poor Nutella alone......:-D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    K4t wrote: »
    Is he also changing the names of all kids called Muhammad who face discrimination in France?

    I wonder if the girl was a muslim would he have changed her religion so as to avoid any "mockery and unpleasant remarks"?

    We may aswell just scrap names and go by our social security numbers so situations like this won't arise and we can eliminate bullying and offense completely.

    Stupid analogies OP, you're really reaching to try and find offence.

    Nutella is an incredibly stupid name and the judge was right to disallow it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    K4t wrote: »
    A judge in Valenciennes, northern France, took a tough stance against a couple who tried to call their child Nutella in September 2014, after a "shocked" registrar reported their choice to the local prosecutor.

    La Voix du Nord newspaper reported that the judge said giving the child "the name of a chocolate spread" was against the girl’s interests, as it “might lead to mockery and unpleasant remarks”. He also noted that the name Nutella is the official brand name of the chocolate spread product.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-parents-banned-from-naming-their-child-nutella-or-fraise-10003146.html


    Is he also changing the names of all kids called Muhammad who face discrimination in France?

    I wonder if the girl was a muslim would he have changed her religion so as to avoid any "mockery and unpleasant remarks"?

    We may aswell just scrap names and go by our social security numbers so situations like this won't arise and we can eliminate bullying and offense completely.


    Why so upset Kfourt? Don't you wish someone intervened when your parents named you Kfourt?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭Foggy Jew


    I blame Bob Geldof.

    It's the bally ballyness of it that makes it all seem so bally bally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    Foggy Jew wrote: »
    I blame Bob Geldof.

    I blame Moon Unit Zappa


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    Yeh, people taking offence is the problem rather than people being on the receiving end. And down with preventing easy targets for bullying.
    What about that Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii kid? Sometimes the child with the actual name is more important than the principle about nobody having the right to be offended or whatever.
    Bullying will always exist. And people being offended will always exist. No law or ruling by a judge will ever change this. Who is to say the name Ella will not have very different connotations by the time this child is a teenager? Will she just have to change her name again? Or be forced to by a judge?
    Let's not scrap names/go by social security numbers, let's just not be selfish enough to give a small kid a name that they'll be ashamed to say is theirs.
    You, like the apparently all knowing judge, are assuming that 1) the child will automatically be bullied because of her name and 2) the child will be ashamed of her name. Are you both psychics?
    Offended much OP?
    Disappointed in a country that very recently was being hailed by the world as a defender of freedom of expression.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Venus In Furs


    K4t wrote: »
    Who is to say the name Ella will not have very different connotations by the time this child is a teenager? Will she just have to change her name again? Or be forced to by a judge?
    I don't know?
    You, like the apparently all knowing judge, are assuming that 1) the child will automatically be bullied because of her name and 2) the child will be ashamed of her name. Are you both psychics?
    We're considering strong likelihoods rather than pretending they aren't reality.
    Disappointed in a country that very recently was being hailed by the world as a defender of freedom of expression.
    Freedom of expression that affects someone else who has no say in it ftw!

    Some folks will resort to any auld rubbish to defend this "free speech" thing they imagine exists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    They should have called her Maxine Power.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t



    Some folks will resort to any auld rubbish to defend this "free speech" thing they imagine exists.
    You only realise the most important things in life when they are gone.


    #JeSuisNutella


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    K4t wrote: »
    #JeSuisNutella

    :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Venus In Furs


    K4t wrote: »
    You only realise the most important things in life when they are gone.
    There has never been free speech anyway

    And surely imposing expression on someone (in this case a name on a child that they're very likely to be miserable with) is the exact opposite to freedom of speech?


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