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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Read Mod Warning in OP 7/1/15

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭#15


    Some Ferguson quotes on tactics from 'The Italian Job' by Marcotti.
    "I seldom play 442. I learned to play with one striker up front when I was a player... When I became manager of St Mirren, I implemented the system... At United we had Hughes and McClair, then Hughes and Cantona, then Cole or Yorke with Sheringham... If you have two up the park, you only have one point of attack, whereas, if you have one guy dropping off, you have two points of attack."
    - Sir Alex Ferguson
    People see English football as conservative, yet in many ways it has been progessive and trailblazing and probably far more open in some respects than that of other nations... The English game has been very good at importing foreign ideas, but the last area to fall to foreign influence is tactics, where the English 4-4-2 is the system of choice.

    442 means that English teams can't tailor their tactics to the players at their disposal. A team may have three of the best central defenders in the world but, because it only knows how to play 442, one ends up either on the bench or out of position... Another negative effect of the 442 is that it does not allow for players with unique gifts or talents. Had Ronaldinho been born English, where would he have played in a 442?

    There is another reason why lack of variety is hurting the English game. Teams are so used to facing 4-4-2 that when opponents vary things they struggle. An example of this are Arsenal, whose own 4-4-2 is nominal, as Thierry Henry moves out to the left and Dennis Bergkamp drops off.

    "If the opposing right back goes forward, Henry goes into the space behind him and Pires cuts inside. This works very well, which is why I’m sure Arsenal would be happy if everybody stayed 4-4-2. It’s why some teams are starting to change when they face Arsenal. We always keep the right-back position filled. Henry needs space to play. If you give it to him, he destroys you."
    - Sir Alex Ferguson, on Arsenal's 442 variant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    Valdes starts in goals tonight for the U21s v Liverpool, on Sky Sports 1 now.

    Valdes, Vermijl, McNair, Thorpe, Blackett, Janko, Anderson, A.Pereira, James, Lingard, Powell

    Liverpool: Vigouroux, McLaughlin, Maguire, Randall, Williams, Chirivella, Canos, Brannagan, Sinclair, Ibe, Ojo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    NUTZZ wrote: »
    Valdes starts in goals tonight for the U21s v Liverpool, on Sky Sports 1 now.

    Valdes, Vermijl, McNair, Thorpe, Blackett, Janko, Anderson, A.Pereira, James, Lingard, Powell

    Psg looking at pereira free in the summer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    The team

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    Preston or Sheffield United away once we scrape past Cambridge


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    bangkok wrote: »
    Psg looking at pereira free in the summer

    If he turns out to be Pogba mark 2, I'll cry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,554 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Is this Lingards first match back from injury?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭fuzzydunlop85


    Both will give us a decent game, would prefer Preston though. Sheff united very tough to break down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,116 ✭✭✭Professional Griefer


    Valdes* and yes, I think so. oooooooooops :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Trond


    The state of Blackett in this game so far.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    Didn't LVG have the U21's playing the 352 earlier this season? as he wanted players to be familar with the system if they made the upgrade to the senior squad, if I remember correctly. Interesting that they're playing 433.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    Also
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    Bilbao are expecting a bid for Aymeric Laporte from #mufc. The player is happy to move if the right fee is paid. [viia @GuillemBalague]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,554 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Anderson looks weird with a regular haircut.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    Nice cross and header.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Trond


    Lovely ball in there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,554 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Good goal by Powell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,439 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Powell made up for that pretty bad miss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    Hope Powell becomes a good player and a good career. Seems likable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,239 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Victor Valdez in goal on a Man Utd U21 match, mad stuff altogether.

    Is Powell playing centre forward?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    Valdes beaten, 1-1!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,439 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Liverpool score.

    The passing at the back isn't great and we're getting caught stretched. Lucky not to be 1-2 down already with the same scenario.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    Poor pass given away but valdes beaten by a decent strike after that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,554 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Bad keeping off the line way too early.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Trond


    Hope Powell becomes a good player and a good career. Seems likable.

    Apart from the drink driving offence and poor time keeping with Leicester. Looks a waste of talent to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,554 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    That was a great ball from Anderson for Powells miss, both deserve a chance in the first team again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    That was a great ball from Anderson for Powells miss, both deserve a chance in the first team again.

    Powell couldn't get into Leicester's side, I'm really not sure how he deserves a chance in the first team


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,439 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    McNair!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,554 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Powell couldn't get into Leicester's side, I'm really not sure how he deserves a chance in the first team

    Because RVP, Falcao, Rooney and Di Maria are burned out, give the lad a chance. :)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,995 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Reading that Januzaj's agent has said PSG put in a bid on him this window, and it was turned down, with LVG saying that he won't be leaving (loan or transfer) as he's needed for the squad.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    The under 21s have the right idea when attacking, no pointless crossing for 90 minutes


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