From Isis to the Civil Service

Venus In Furs wrote: »

Here in Ireland? Can't see how.

People are under the mistaken belief that we here in Ireland are some how so tolerant and our Muslim community so particularly clement that we don't experience these problems.

This isn't the case. It's all to do with numbers. We don't yet have large enough Muslim community to see the Islamic strife caused in other European countries. Our Muslim population will become progressively more militant, belligerent and demanding no matter how they are treated. It's a situation we've seen all over Europe, the higher the proportion of Muslims in the population the more social disharmony caused by that community.

Take Sweden. No country was more welcoming, more inclusive, more submissive to it's Muslim immigrants. Look at Sweden now. A deeply divided, unhappy country. Entire sectors of cities Islamified. Jews being driven out. Ethnically Swedish women suffering a disproportionately high rate of assault and rape at the hands of Muslim men. No go areas for non-Muslims. Swedish youths flocking to join the barbarity in the Middle East, eager to bring some home with them.

Still, the appeasement continues. The Swedish reaction to the Charlie Hebdo outrages was not to condemn militant Islam or defend press freedom but to rail against the right wing. As if they were killing people or destroying the country.

It'll come to Ireland eventually. We've seen the start of it with Dr.Ali feeling able to demand backward changes to the Irish education and dictate to the Irish people, along with threats, what we should and shouldn't read and write.

Sweden is drowning under a tide of "diversity". It's a little further up the road than other European nations but we're all following in the same direction as the "tolerant" (yet, ironically, deeply intolerant of dissenting opinions), "liberal", left wing, politically correct dogma still dominates all discourse on the subject and stifles any reasoned debate.

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Are there any sources for this that aren't from a neo-Nazi rag?

Just because you dislike what a media outlet reports, doesn't make it a "neo-Nazi rag".

The Backwards Man wrote: »

It's addressed to you and well you know it.

Have you any sources to corroborate your OP?

You know, less biased ones.

reprise wrote: »

How is my original source biased?

It's quoting this source:

http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/kommunen-vill-ge-jobb-till-is-krigare-1/

Is this biased too?

Just to be clear, are you saying this story is fabricated?

Looks like he walked backwards out of that argument as fast as he could.

Venus In Furs wrote: »

While I completely understand people's concern about islamic fundamentalism and it spreading, Speise doesn't exactly seem like the most balanced of publications in fairness.

Speisa. You don't even know the name of the publication yet you're able to decide if it's reliable or not. Bravo!


If he linked to a Swedish source, people would complain that it's in Swedish. But here's one anyway: http://www.svt.se/nyheter/regionalt/tvarsnytt/kommun-hjalper-is-krigare

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Na, I made my point. It seems hysterically tilted websites and the Swedish version of the News Of The World are evidence enough to start a debate these days.

It's a translation from an article published by SVT. SVT is the Swedish national broadcaster.

http://www.svt.se/nyheter/regionalt/tvarsnytt/kommun-hjalper-is-krigare

Venus In Furs wrote: »

Ooh, I mis-spelled it - you have one hundred per cent OWNED me!
(How can I not know the name when I looked directly at it? ).

From reading it (that's how you figure out these things) it's plain as day to anyone with eyes that it's extremely biased. Guess that's ok when it's a bias you agree with though.

They are looking into it and following on a similar Project done by the Danish city of Århus.

inforfun wrote: »

Of course it is legitimate.
Moroccans cant get rid of their Moroccan passport no matter how hard they try.

So taking away their Dutch citizenship doesnt make them stateless.

While the mayor of Rotterdam, who is holding a Dutch and Moroccan passport, might say he is Dutch first, then Moroccan, i ll bet you these idiots who go on jihad will tell you they are Moroccan and only are Dutch when it is convenient to them.

The holder of this passport gave the right example.

if they are born in holland then thats where they are from, making your point irrelevant. them being moroccan is only relevant if they were born there

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

Just because you dislike what a media outlet reports, doesn't make it a "neo-Nazi rag".

no, but the fact it is a neo-Nazi rag makes it a neo-Nazi rag

end of the road wrote: »

no, but the fact it is a neo-Nazi rag makes it a neo-Nazi rag

They simply translated an article into English, that was previously published by the Swedish national broadcaster. How does that make them "a neo-Nazi rag"?

end of the road wrote: »

if they are born in holland then thats where they are from, making your point irrelevant. them being moroccan is only relevant if they were born there

You should go into a mosque in Holland, Belgium or France and tell them that.