Papa Francis - Same Sex Marriage

Timberrrrrrrr · 23-01-2015 07:26AM

indy_man wrote: »

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/obama-state-union-same-sex-marriage-america-its-best

He doesn't actually state he doesn't believe in SSM.

Annasopra · 23-01-2015 07:29AM

indy_man wrote: »

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/obama-state-union-same-sex-marriage-america-its-best

Hes changed his nind.

Anesthetize · 23-01-2015 07:54AM

Eramen wrote: »

Both the masculine and feminine forces of the two sexes are needed to bring out the best latent attributes, personality and talents in the child. This is the most crucial criterion of family life (as is marriage). We have a world-majority that agree with this reality.

Can you link us to a credible study which proves this?

El_Duderino 09 · 23-01-2015 11:17AM

indy_man wrote: »

Here is the other side of the argument.

http://www.catholicbishops.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Meaning-of-Marriage-Web-English.pdf

That's only religious marriage being discussed in the link you provided. The referendum won't effect religious marriage. Catholics will have be free to celebrate heterosexual marriage all they want.

The referendum will allow the state to recognise SSM. It won't oblige the catholics to recognise them.

RobertKK · 23-01-2015 11:24AM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Hes changed his nind.

That is what a lot of politicians have done for political reasons.

Follow what they believe the people want, it causes less hassle and makes re-election easier. There is a lot if that going on. Enda was against SSM but changed his minds, the polls probably helped as he is not a man of conviction.

Enda came up with get rid of the seanad, as he thought it would be popular to have less politicans.
He was not into reform, but what he believes is popular.

Same with Obama, and his switch around to supporting SSM, it helps with fundraising and personal ambitions...

eviltwin · 23-01-2015 11:33AM

Anesthetize wrote: »

Can you link us to a credible study which proves this?

It only exists in his head

floggg · 23-01-2015 11:47AM

RobertKK wrote: »

That is what a lot of politicians have done for political reasons.

Follow what they believe the people want, it causes less hassle and makes re-election easier. There is a lot if that going on. Enda was against SSM but changed his minds, the polls probably helped as he is not a man of conviction.

Enda came up with get rid of the seanad, as he thought it would be popular to have less politicans.
He was not into reform, but what he believes is popular.

Same with Obama, and his switch around to supporting SSM, it helps with fundraising and personal ambitions...

It's funny, over the past few years, a majority of the the electorate in both Ireland and the U.S. have changed their minds on issues like same sex marriage and moved from majority opposition to majority support.

For some reason however, the opinion of politicans is expected to remain frozen and static on these issues, and if their opinion does change then political expediency is considered the only reasonable or rational explanation.

I think it's also funny that politicians would be criticised for trying to introduce something that a majority of the country want. Imagine, elected representatives making their decision in accordance with the understand to be the will of the people!

farmer john8 · 28-01-2015 09:58PM

i used to be very opposed to the liberal agenda but over the years i have mellowed quiet a bit .
1 abortion if people want to kill their unborn children let them the kids would only turn out like their parents anyway
2 gay if they wish hence no procreation
3 Euthanasia then they can go and kill themselves
all this will only insure that there are less lefty atheists around in the future

shruikan2553 · 29-01-2015 07:52AM

farmer john8 wrote: »

i used to be very opposed to the liberal agenda but over the years i have mellowed quiet a bit .
1 abortion if people want to kill their unborn children let them the kids would only turn out like their parents anyway
2 gay if they wish hence no procreation
3 Euthanasia then they can go and kill themselves
all this will only insure that there are less lefty atheists around in the future

Yeah, its the liberal agenda that's a problem. Wanting people to kill themselves is perfectly normal.

Not really sure what atheists have to do with it but this is AH do giving out about them is normal enough, have you ever read mein kampf? You would enjoy it.

lazygal · 29-01-2015 08:02AM

farmer john8 wrote: »

i used to be very opposed to the liberal agenda but over the years i have mellowed quiet a bit .
1 abortion if people want to kill their unborn children let them the kids would only turn out like their parents anyway
2 gay if they wish hence no procreation
3 Euthanasia then they can go and kill themselves
all this will only insure that there are less lefty atheists around in the future

Are all atheists lefty? Too late, I've already procreated!

farmer john8 · 29-01-2015 01:10PM

shruikan2553 wrote: »

Yeah, its the liberal agenda that's a problem. Wanting people to kill themselves is perfectly normal.

Not really sure what atheists have to do with it but this is AH do giving out about them is normal enough, have you ever read mein kampf? You would enjoy it.

so you have read mein kampf for research i suppose ? i dont read that sort of thing

Pherekydes · 29-01-2015 03:44PM

farmer john8 wrote: »

so you have read mein kampf for research i suppose ? i dont read that sort of thing

I'd say there's a lot of stuff you don't read.

farmer john8 · 29-01-2015 04:43PM

apart from religion nature is a the great leveler.the strong survive the weak fail simple
if people dont want to believe in what the pope has to say so be it .
but dont try to pull the rest of us down to your level

K4t · 29-01-2015 05:01PM

farmer john8 wrote: »

apart from religion nature is a the great leveler.the strong survive the weak fail simple

The truly strong dedicate their lives to preventing the weak from failing.

if people dont want to believe in what the pope has to say so be it .
but dont try to pull the rest of us down to your level

I'd rather live in hell than listen to what the pope has to say in any heaven. Please, please, don't drag me up to your magical land in the clouds.

farmer john8 · 29-01-2015 05:18PM

K4t wrote: »

The truly strong dedicate their lives to preventing the weak from failing.

I'd rather live in hell than listen to what the pope has to say in any heaven. Please, please, don't drag me up to your magical land in the clouds.

i think this should be called the atheist army forum

BBJBIG · 29-01-2015 05:45PM

I'll just laeve dis here fur yis :-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-kzB6cPuQI&x-yt-ts=1422503916&x-yt-cl=85027636&feature=player_embedded

jobbridge4life · 29-01-2015 05:51PM

farmer john8 wrote: »

i used to be very opposed to the liberal agenda but over the years i have mellowed quiet a bit .
1 abortion if people want to kill their unborn children let them the kids would only turn out like their parents anyway
2 gay if they wish hence no procreation
3 Euthanasia then they can go and kill themselves
all this will only insure that there are less lefty atheists around in the future

Genuinely love this. Can I get it on a tank top?

Just one little prob with your plan honey, gay people weren't born from homosexual intercourse so I am afraid you are stuck with us Farmer John.

farmer john8 · 29-01-2015 06:26PM

‎Marian Finucane was on the radio last week talking about children in hospitals getting sick on the floor and nobody to clean the mess up then i couldnt believe my ears she said "bring back the nuns".this is the woman that gave decades bashing the catholic church .the people that tear down the buildings arent so good at building them back up again.

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