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Outdoor Wedding Ceremony - Validity

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  • #32
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    neris wrote: »
    the 1st mistake made was letting the HSE take control over weddings/registration

    The Hse didn't "take control over" anything. When the law was changed to allow civil marriage ceremonies to take place outside registry offices the Hse simply followed the ministerial diktat on the whole thing. Do you really think the Hse "took control over" civil marriage just to make life difficult?
    Some people would want to cop themselves on. There's no requirement to have a Hse celebrant unless you choose to do so. Getting married in Ireland is not some big monopoly, which the Hse loves controlling.


  • #33
    mrsbyrne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭mrsbyrne


    lazygal wrote: »
    The Hse didn't "take control over" anything. When the law was changed to allow civil marriage ceremonies to take place outside registry offices the Hse simply followed the ministerial diktat on the whole thing. Do you really think the Hse "took control over" civil marriage just to make life difficult?
    Some people would want to cop themselves on. There's no requirement to have a Hse celebrant unless you choose to do so. Getting married in Ireland is not some big monopoly, which the Hse loves controlling.

    As I see it the fact that until a few years ago everyone more or less married in church and the priest took care of more or less all the paperwork is the main reason for all the consternation surrounding organising the business end of your wedding.They're not doing that any more. There's nothing will knock the romance out of your recent engagement like having to complete some forms and gather up some documents.


  • #34
    Addle
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    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    There's nothing will knock the romance out of your recent engagement like having to complete some forms and gather up some documents.

    Well deciding to get married is a very serious thing, not to be taken lightly.
    A bit of notice and some paper work is merited.


  • #35
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    As I see it the fact that until a few years ago everyone more or less married in church and the priest took care of more or less all the paperwork is the main reason for all the consternation surrounding organising the business end of your wedding.They're not doing that any more. There's nothing will knock the romance out of your recent engagement like having to complete some forms and gather up some documents.

    There was always a requirement to register intent with the state regardless of the church documents. I found it quite romantic registering our intent to marry, and organising the solemnising of our relationship.
    Anyway life isn't all sunshine and rainbows. Getting married is a serious undertaking and filling out a few forms isn't the end of romance.


  • #36
    pwurple
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    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    As I see it the fact that until a few years ago everyone more or less married in church and the priest took care of more or less all the paperwork is the main reason for all the consternation surrounding organising the business end of your wedding.They're not doing that any more. There's nothing will knock the romance out of your recent engagement like having to complete some forms and gather up some documents.

    Did you forgot about the Banns? Those were announced for weeks before an impending marriage. Those were only abolished in 1983.

    Marriage is a legal item, it's got forms, documents and is committed to public records permanently.


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  • #37
    mrsbyrne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭mrsbyrne


    I help people fill forms everyday and even the most straightforward questions cause consternation in toxic levels.
    I got married in 96 and apart fRom letters of freedom and religious certificates being produced I don't recall any onerous paperwork.


  • #38
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    I help people fill forms everyday and even the most straightforward questions cause consternation in toxic levels.
    I got married in 96 and apart fRom letters of freedom and religious certificates being produced I don't recall any onerous paperwork.

    There's no consternation in registration of intent to marry. The hse register fills out everything for you. You bring your id and payment by credit card and they check everything. It was a lot less work than friends of mine who needed letters of freedom and dispensation for non Catholic partners or baptism certs from far away parishes. And then they had to do the civil paperwork on top of that. I don't understand how any element of the registration of intent process can cause consternation, especially if you don't need the hse to marry you.


  • #39
    Looshkin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 ✭Looshkin


    Just checking, so we can go ahead and arrange a ceremony somewhere outdoors (with landowners permission) to be married by the spiritualist union as long as it has a proper address? Is that ok now? (Newly engaged, no idea what I'm doing with this planning stuff!! Just want a small outdoor wedding if possible.)


  • #40
    Gatica
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭Gatica


    Even outdoors it needs to be a proper location. It can't be a field somewhere even if it's owned by Mr Joe at Ballynacaddy, Co. Carlow...
    It can be outside of a hotel, or some other venue. It can't be in the middle of the woods even if the woods have an address. It also can't be a home address.


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