Junkies

Fukuyama · 17-01-2015 12:40PM

Pinch Flat wrote: »

If you can give another European capital city without a drugs problem, do tell

Most urban centers have drug problems - it's how they're handled thats the key difference.

German police tend to deal with anti social behavior before it even starts.

Foxhound38 · 17-01-2015 12:43PM

Dean0088 wrote: »

Most urban centers have drug problems - it's how they're handled thats the key difference.

German police tend to deal with anti social behavior before it even starts.

If you were caught shooting up in front of kids on a tram in broad daylight in some cities in the US, you'd be in for an absolute world of pain.

Fukuyama · 17-01-2015 12:45PM

Foxhound38 wrote: »

If you were caught shooting up in front of kids on a tram in broad daylight in some cities in the US, you'd be in for an absolute world of pain.

Agreed.

I felt safer on the Subway in BedStuy, Brooklyn at 3am than I would on the LUAS at 11pm. The NYPD patrol the crap out of the subway. If you even jump the barrier it's a mandatory arrest.

In Ireland you'd want to murder someone to even get a response.

How Soon Is Now · 17-01-2015 12:46PM

Guess where I am now? And guess what just got on at drimnagh.......

Live action junkie updates!!

Foxhound38 · 17-01-2015 12:49PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Guess where I am now? And guess what just got on at drimnagh.......

Live action junkie updates!!

Crutches or no crutches??

How Soon Is Now · 17-01-2015 12:50PM

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Crutches or no crutches??

None I'm afraid but I'm coming up to James's!!

Nothing at James's!! Wow that's a first maybe I should do the lotto today!!

On a somewhat unrelated note nothing gets people moving like ticket inspectors!

FalconGirl · 17-01-2015 12:59PM

Theres a massive junkie problem in Dublin City Centre. Dublin is a pretty small City by global standards and it stands out like a sore thumb. The main drop-off point for tourists is O'Connell street which is infested with these cretins. The relevant authorities only give a crap about the bottom line accounts instead of worrying about a deteriorating situation and medium to long term reputational damage to Dublin as a global tourist destination. Its wrong and their view is very short-sighted because if Dublin was cleaned up it could be one of the great cultural/litary/party cities of the world.

But as we have seen the last few years, in Ireland the authorities do not give a sh!t about the things that matter. The vulnerable in society. Its bad governance pure and simple.

Fukuyama · 17-01-2015 01:27PM

FalconGirl wrote: »

Theres a massive junkie problem in Dublin City Centre. Dublin is a pretty small City by global standards and it stands out like a sore thumb. The main drop-off point for tourists is O'Connell street which is infested with these cretins. The relevant authorities only give a crap about the bottom line accounts instead of worrying about a deteriorating situation and medium to long term reputational damage to Dublin as a global tourist destination. Its wrong and their view is very short-sighted because if Dublin was cleaned up it could be one of the great cultural/litary/party cities of the world.

But as we have seen the last few years, in Ireland the authorities do not give a sh!t about the things that matter. The vulnerable in society. Its bad governance pure and simple.

I'm not a fan of bullying from cops or thuggish behavior, however I think the Garda need to get more "proactive".

Things like drinking in public, forceful begging and loitering are ignored. It's only when those little problems cause bigger ones that we get a response but by then the damage is done.

For example, a group of junkie are ALWAYS hanging around the Londis at the O'Connell St, Abbey St intersection. They drink, the loiter and they beg. The garda do nothing. It's only when the inevitable fighting/stealing happens that they bother to move them along. If the garda intimidated these cretins and never let up on them, they wouldn't be able to cause a hint of trouble.

Another thing I'd like to see clamped down on is kids cycling on bikes on footpaths in the city center. Take the things off the kids if they're caught more than once doing it.

I'm not trying to spoil kids fun. It's because it's a common tactic used to rob phones. They cycle around for an hour or two before spotting an easy victim, snatch the phone and cycle off. It's also a tactic used to ferry drugs around the place knowing the garda haven't a hope of catching them in dense city traffic.

Fukuyama · 17-01-2015 01:29PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Guess where I am now? And guess what just got on at drimnagh.......

Live action junkie updates!!

I live in Drimnagh. You should see what STAYS here! :eek:

Soft Falling Rain · 17-01-2015 01:33PM

Dean0088 wrote: »

I'm not a fan of bullying from cops or thuggish behavior, however I think the Garda need to get more "proactive".

Things like drinking in public, forceful begging and loitering are ignored. It's only when those little problems cause bigger ones that we get a response but by then the damage is done.

For example, a group of junkie are ALWAYS hanging around the Londis at the O'Connell St, Abbey St intersection. They drink, the loiter and they beg. The garda do nothing. It's only when the inevitable fighting/stealing happens that they bother to move them along. If the garda intimidated these cretins and never let up on them, they wouldn't be able to cause a hint of trouble.

Another thing I'd like to see clamped down on is kids cycling on bikes on footpaths in the city center. Take the things off the kids if they're caught more than once doing it.

I'm not trying to spoil kids fun. It's because it's a common tactic used to rob phones. They cycle around for an hour or two before spotting an easy victim, snatch the phone and cycle off. It's also a tactic used to ferry drugs around the place knowing the garda haven't a hope of catching them in dense city traffic.

Gardai won't be getting proactive anytime soon towards addicts, they tend to pick on targets who won't stab them with a syringe.

Diemos · 17-01-2015 01:38PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I got the luas (red line, need I mention it!) the other evening, and these 4 got on at jervis, luas was fairly packed, two women, spaced out and drinking cider from empty Pepsi bottles, and one of them had the 2litre Devils bit they were all sharing. Anyway, there was no seats and the dopiest lady junkie stood in the aisle and when the luas took off she fell on her ass. This kid sitting in the front seat helped lift her up when the other more aggressive female junkie started roaring about how the kid should have jumped up off his seat as soon as they got on to let "Avril" sit down, because she wasn't well. She was ranting until the next stop at least about how nobody offered the females a seat.

Funny thing is that young lad probably paid for his fare and they made a holy show of him

Any chance you spoke up for the kid?

Whosthis · 17-01-2015 01:40PM

This just in:

Junkies in Dublin City use public transport. Shocker!

Foxhound38 · 17-01-2015 01:48PM

Dean0088 wrote: »

I'm not a fan of bullying from cops or thuggish behavior, however I think the Garda need to get more "proactive".

Things like drinking in public, forceful begging and loitering are ignored. It's only when those little problems cause bigger ones that we get a response but by then the damage is done.

For example, a group of junkie are ALWAYS hanging around the Londis at the O'Connell St, Abbey St intersection. They drink, the loiter and they beg. The garda do nothing. It's only when the inevitable fighting/stealing happens that they bother to move them along. If the garda intimidated these cretins and never let up on them, they wouldn't be able to cause a hint of trouble.

Another thing I'd like to see clamped down on is kids cycling on bikes on footpaths in the city center. Take the things off the kids if they're caught more than once doing it.

I'm not trying to spoil kids fun. It's because it's a common tactic used to rob phones. They cycle around for an hour or two before spotting an easy victim, snatch the phone and cycle off. It's also a tactic used to ferry drugs around the place knowing the garda haven't a hope of catching them in dense city traffic.

I think moving the methodone clinics out of the city centre could help a lot in Dublins case - decentralize it out to areas in the inner city where they live but away from businesses and tourists. Also the gardai need to clamp down on loitering at Luas stops and the boardwalk. Public drinking etc needs to be dealt with and not ignored. That's the NYPD's way of doing things - clamp down hard on the little things and the big things tend to sort themselves out. Think such a strategy could work well in a small area like Dublin or Cork.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 17-01-2015 01:51PM

Diemos wrote: »

Any chance you spoke up for the kid?

Are you insane? There was 4 of them and 1 of me. They were scaring me already without even saying anything to me, I wasn't going to open my mouth.

FalconGirl · 17-01-2015 01:52PM

I'm not a fan of bullying from cops or thuggish behavior, however I think the Garda need to get more "proactive".

Things like drinking in public, forceful begging and loitering are ignored. It's only when those little problems cause bigger ones that we get a response but by then the damage is done.

For example, a group of junkie are ALWAYS hanging around the Londis at the O'Connell St, Abbey St intersection. They drink, the loiter and they beg. The garda do nothing. It's only when the inevitable fighting/stealing happens that they bother to move them along. If the garda intimidated these cretins and never let up on them, they wouldn't be able to cause a hint of trouble.

Another thing I'd like to see clamped down on is kids cycling on bikes on footpaths in the city center. Take the things off the kids if they're caught more than once doing it.

I'm not trying to spoil kids fun. It's because it's a common tactic used to rob phones. They cycle around for an hour or two before spotting an easy victim, snatch the phone and cycle off. It's also a tactic used to ferry drugs around the place knowing the garda haven't a hope of catching them in dense city traffic.

Agree, Londis at the corner of Westmoreland Street is another bad spot. I had my phone robbed there a few weeks back while standing at the bus stop there. The Gardai are not motivated top stop this. Its a worsening problem. And btw I dont blame the Gardai, as I said before I blame bad governance of the country. Problems are being seen across all emergency services in the country. Health etc.

Foxhound38 · 17-01-2015 01:53PM

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

Gardai won't be getting proactive anytime soon towards addicts, they tend to pick on targets who won't stab them with a syringe.

Part of the problem is with the wider justice system - think of it from the Guards point of view: they could pick up some zombie for shooting up in public/causing hassel on the Luas etc, wrestle them into the back of the squadcar while avoiding being jabbed with a needle, have to deal with the aftermath of the junkie sh*tting himself/puking in the car, do the hours of paperwork the arrest would entail and for what? Judge would just hand down a suspended sentence and the little cretin would be back on the streets giving the same guard the two fingers before tea time.

I don't envy the gardai their jobs in this system.

Vomit · 17-01-2015 02:03PM

Whosthis wrote: »

This just in:

Junkies in Dublin City use public transport. Shocker!

They don't "use" public transport- they loiter and hang about on it all day without paying, injecting drugs and intimidating real customers.

Whosthis · 17-01-2015 02:05PM

Vomit wrote: »

They don't "use" public transport- they loiter and hang about on it all day without paying, injecting drugs and intimidating real customers.

Pretty sure that constitutes "use".

Greenmachine · 17-01-2015 02:08PM

6 Year old kid apparently pricked by a syringe on a Dublin Bus service.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0116/673173-syringe-dublin-bus/

arybvtcw0eolkf · 17-01-2015 02:09PM

Foxhound38 wrote: »

At the very least the compromise should be a "no shooting up on the LUAS" rule that's actually enforced.

Straight up question but how do you enforce a rule like this?.

I work a bar/club door, have done for over twenty years now and whenever I've come across an addict taking a turn-on in the toilets I leave them to finish the job then escort them from the premises ~ no way am I going to try stop them mid-flow so to speak.

As for LUAS I've never had to use it but I hear the Tallaght line (red or green, I'm not sure) is particularly bad, well I don't think STI pay their lads enough money to be hero's.

Foxhound38 · 17-01-2015 02:10PM

Greenmachine wrote: »

6 Year old kid apparently pricked by a syringe on a Dublin Bus service.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0116/673173-syringe-dublin-bus/

:mad:

Carpentry · 17-01-2015 02:11PM

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Was on the LUAS red line the other day in the middle of the day and 2 junkies were shooting up in broad daylight in front of 2 kids of about 12 years old sitting opposite them. :mad:

Why oh why does the green line seem to be swimming with those Viola security stormtroopers and yet the red line junkie express neglected security-wise?

Has the heroin problem gotten worse in recent years? Dublin and Cork City seem to be absolutely crawling with the zombies. Can't walk from one end of O'Connell Street or Patrick Street to the other without getting hassled by them. Can't seem to get a bus without at least one of them spaced out of his tree in the back talking nonsense.

Seen those huge stormtroopers <hilarious btw:D> being beaten up by 3 young lads in tracksuits at actual train. One of the troopers got real bad. Hilarious as well.

Foxhound38 · 17-01-2015 02:13PM

Beau Tangy Liver wrote: »

Straight up question but how do you enforce a rule like this?

More security stormtroopers on the red line. The green line is well serviced with viola security - as soon as there's a whiff of trouble (generally from drunk kids on that line) they're on it like a hot snot. The red-line (inexplicably) is far less staffed by these security guys - hence, anti-social behaviour.

Tony EH · 17-01-2015 02:15PM

Foxhound38 wrote: »

I remember a few years back I was on the red line and a junkie and his junkette girlfriend were having a right aul row about who owed who 5 euro, causing hassle for everyone in the tram. Anyway, after a while they seemed to forget all about that, because they were wearing the face off each other. The claw must have been dropped at some point before Rialto because she was making a lot of noise! :eek:

It's like other people don't exist to some of these lads.

They don't.

Junkies only know one thing. They need their junk. Eventually, over a short enough period of time the addict becomes so fixated on their "gear", it's all that's important to them, not friends, not family, not even life itself.

fg1406 · 17-01-2015 02:15PM

Having spent the past few years commuting on the Red Line daily for almost an hour each way, I have a book compiled about it. Junkies shooting up, drug dealing, drunks pissing, fighting, children pickpocketing, traveller kids racially abusing tourists etc It's so depressing. Since January I've begun driving into the city centre to work as I just can't deal with it any more. I've turned into a public transport snob. I refuse to use it unless absolutely necessary.

FalconGirl · 17-01-2015 02:17PM

7 year old got pricked on the Dart not too long ago too.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 17-01-2015 02:18PM

Carpentry wrote: »

Seen those huge stormtroopers <hilarious btw:D> being beaten up by 3 young lads in tracksuits at actual train. One of the troopers got real bad. Hilarious as well.

Is there something wrong with you?.

Why do you find it hilarious that someone out making an honest living gets beat up?.

I was assaulted only last night, sucker punched. I'm working to pay off two college fees for my children not for some scumbag to sucker punch me.

But you might find that hilarious, right?.. (btw I'm a pretty "huge" guy myself).

rubberdiddies · 17-01-2015 02:18PM

Vomit wrote: »

I think everyone has a red line story. Me, I've seen lots of f*ckology take place.. screaming argument between a city girl and and old man who was threatening to bring his shotgun on his next Luas journey. Saw another lad get on once and casually reach behind a seat where he had stashed a brown bag full of god knows what. The Gardai and security services know full well that they would never be out of business if they patrolled the red line properly.. there'd be arrests on an hourly basis. What's the issue? Lack of Garda funding? Attitude of 'let the decaying parts of the city just rot'..? People basically have no fear of the law. Even if they were arrested, that would just be a bit of craic for a few hours- they'd be in the courts..into cushy rehab, told they are 'ill'..always the victim not the perp.

Sometimes you need a stronger approach to alter anti-social behavior. People will do anything if they think they can get away with it. We should have a situation where people on the red line are afraid to break the law-- not afraid to USE it.

Lack of Garda resources plays a big part obviously. One of my friends is a city centre guard and one of his biggest gripes beside resourcing is the fact that you can spend half or a whole shift dealing with a junkie, then have to attend court for his hearing on your day off having spent hours already on this one case with its reams of paperwork, for the judge to just let him off.

He says this happens to most of these people and it's so frustrating and disheartening

Carpentry · 17-01-2015 02:20PM

fg1406 wrote: »

Having spent the past few years commuting on the Red Line daily for almost an hour each way, I have a book compiled about it. Junkies shooting up, drug dealing, drunks pissing, fighting, children pickpocketing, traveller kids racially abusing tourists etc It's so depressing. Since January I've begun driving into the city centre to work as I just can't deal with it any more. I've turned into a public transport snob. I refuse to use it unless absolutely necessary.

Dropped public transport all the way about 3 years ago. Had to pick up car the other day and decided to walk from Phoenix Park to Drumcondra having 46a at the door step.

FalconGirl · 17-01-2015 02:20PM

Seen those huge stormtroopers <hilarious btw> being beaten up by 3 young lads in tracksuits at actual train. One of the troopers got real bad. Hilarious as well.

Hilarious yeah, you are part of the problem you dipsh!t.

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