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If you don't re-rack your weights and wipe equipment after yourself you are not nice.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    Its not a big deal loading or unloading plates I think most people don't care....

    You should strip the bar unless someone is waiting to use the rack you're in and you can say do you want me to leave some plates on?


  • Subscribers Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭conzy


    People are different heights and people like certain bars etc.. So when the rack is free I may want to use a different bar, or drop or raise the current bar.. If its full this is a pain.

    In general it make sense to totally strip the bar. If there is a rack "handover" then sure say "leave those 20s there thanks," or "Do you want help stripping the bar"

    Strip the bar!

    :pac:


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Zechariah Mushy Meteorite


    That's true i forgot about needing to drop or lift it a notch or two, definitely prefer doing that on an empty bar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    UCDVet wrote: »
    If someone deadlifts 180kg they're first set might be 80kg or 100kg. I don't deadlift very much, so my *last set* might be 80kg. If I unload the whole bar and lead it empty, then the next guy comes along and puts all the same plates back up + 20kg, well, it's kind of wasteful.

    If you left the bar and a stack of weights on the track, I'd drag you down tpo the battle ropes and beat you within an inch of your life.

    You don't know who's using it next so just put back the bar and the weights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    conzy wrote: »
    People are different heights and people like certain bars etc.. So when the rack is free I may want to use a different bar, or drop or raise the current bar.. If its full this is a pain.

    In general it make sense to totally strip the bar. If there is a rack "handover" then sure say "leave those 20s there thanks," or "Do you want help stripping the bar"

    Strip the bar!

    :pac:

    This should be printed out and put on every rack.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    This should be printed out and put on every rack.


    "No curling in the rack" also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    "No curling in the rack" also
    I've never seen anyone use a rack for curling. I've seen people curl in the rack as a superset between squats or heavy rows but never just to curl.

    Thankfully.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    "No curling in the rack" also

    When did this come in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,829 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    "No curling in the rack" also

    Agreed. It's completely unsuitable.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    conzy wrote: »
    People are different heights and people like certain bars etc.. So when the rack is free I may want to use a different bar, or drop or raise the current bar.. If its full this is a pain.

    In general it make sense to totally strip the bar. If there is a rack "handover" then sure say "leave those 20s there thanks," or "Do you want help stripping the bar"

    Strip the bar!

    :pac:

    I do it to annoy the women who want to use it afterwards

    "soz bbz"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    I do it to annoy the women who want to use it afterwards

    "soz bbz"

    And I do it to annoy men :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Yer Aul One


    I do it to annoy the women who want to use it afterwards

    "soz bbz"

    It is fierce harsh leaving a loaded bar up above 5ft on a rack.

    There are lots of girls and blokes that wouldn't be too comfortable pulling off a 25kg plate over their head.

    One of my first visits to the gym I saw a girl struggling with this and it stuck with me to always strip the bar

    ...I also strip it so people cannot laugh at my puny low squat weight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭n1ck


    On the bar tipping off the rack issue, it definitely happens. I had a guy who was unloading a bar unevenly some shoulder height, he unloaded one side and 60kg of weight lead to it tipping entirely off the rack and nearly clocking my friend in the back of the head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭dylbert


    Loading and stripping the bar is the easy part, just do it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,406 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    UCDVet wrote: »
    Exactly. We don't know who is going to use it next. Why do we assume that 0 weight is better for them than 5kg on each side? Or 10kg on each side?
    A couple of flaws with your theory.

    An empty bar is probably optimal for all first sets. Just because dont actually do that, doesn't mean its optimal.

    Most people will have 20kg as the inner plate, not 5kg or 10kg.
    So using your example, I leave 20's on the bar, and you come along next and have to strip off my 40kg before you start. Relatively that's a lot to be moving about as its the same as your heaviest set.

    The whole idea of making less work for the next guy assumes that he'll be using the same rack height, which is unlikely to be the case.
    Somebody 6ft4, leaving his 60kg HBBS on the rack isn't "making less work" for the 5ft/50kg girl who is going to use the rack next.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,624 ✭✭✭NoQuarter


    I'm actually with UCDvet on this. I don't fully strip the bars for the same logic.

    I wouldn't leave more than one plate on it though. If I came to a bar to deadlift, Id prefer there to be some plates on the end, no matter what they are, as it makes the bar easier to manage. It's awkward putting a first plate onto a bar unless it's sitting in a rack.

    I don't mind what peoples methods are so long as they have at least give some consideration to it. In light of this thread maybe I will be a bit more vigilant but for the moment, I'm happy to leave 25s on the bar. I'm just going to keep an eye on who approaches the bars and what they do with them from now on. But to be fair, I barely ever see the girls on the bars, its mostly lads so I think it's optimal to leave some weight on.

    Bent over rows with one hand on the dumbbell racks gets me every time. And occasionally find a disgusting bench not wiped down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭heroics


    NoQuarter wrote: »
    I'm actually with UCDvet on this. I don't fully strip the bars for the same logic.

    I wouldn't leave more than one plate on it though. If I came to a bar to deadlift, Id prefer there to be some plates on the end, no matter what they are, as it makes the bar easier to manage. It's awkward putting a first plate onto a bar unless it's sitting in a rack.

    I don't mind what peoples methods are so long as they have at least give some consideration to it. In light of this thread maybe I will be a bit more vigilant but for the moment, I'm happy to leave 25s on the bar. I'm just going to keep an eye on who approaches the bars and what they do with them from now on. But to be fair, I barely ever see the girls on the bars, its mostly lads so I think it's optimal to leave some weight on.

    Bent over rows with one hand on the dumbbell racks gets me every time. And occasionally find a disgusting bench not wiped down.

    I have to say I always strip the bar unless the person after me asks me to leave the weights on. My wife uses the same gym as me and there is no way she would lift the 20/25kg plates from the position that I would have the bar in for squats and she would not necessarily ask a guy to do it for her either. Is it possible one of the reasons you don't see women using the bars is that they have to lift the weights off before doing their sets?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    If you're stripping a bar, it's not really that much effort to strip the last 2 plates off.

    I would venture that the majority would do a warm up set with the bar. Not everyone does. Bigger lifters might start with 20s on as their warm up but plenty of the bigger lifters will warm up with the bar as well.

    And loading a bar for a deadlift isn't really awkward.


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Zechariah Mushy Meteorite


    I warm up on 60 so I'd need to strip that bar all right
    Just strip the bar tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,624 ✭✭✭NoQuarter


    heroics wrote: »
    Is it possible one of the reasons you don't see women using the bars is that they have to lift the weights off before doing their sets?

    No idea.
    If you're stripping a bar, it's not really that much effort to strip the last 2 plates off.

    And loading a bar for a deadlift isn't really awkward.

    Nothing to do with effort. My post (and UCTvet's) explains my reasoning.
    bluewolf wrote: »
    I warm up on 60 so I'd need to strip that bar all right

    I warm up on 60 too and would have no problem approaching a bar with 25s on it. If you warm up on 60, then you are well able to remove 25s. That goes for me and you btw.

    There's clearly two trains of thought.


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  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Zechariah Mushy Meteorite


    Loading a bar for a deadlift might be awkward. Do you know what's even more awkward... Unloading it first because someone else didn't bother
    If you can lift it you are well able to put it away yourself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    NoQuarter wrote: »
    Nothing to do with effort. My post (and UCTvet's) explains my reasoning.

    UCDVet's reasoning is that it is silly to strip a bar if someone is going to put on the plates again.

    The majority in a gym will start a warm up with an empty bar.

    Sure there may be some who will warm up with 60 but the majority won't.

    It's just good gym etiquette to strip a bar.

    That's leaving aside that someone will come into the gym, see plates on the bar and think someone is using the rack and gone to the jacks or to get water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭househero


    NoQuarter wrote: »
    I'm actually with UCDvet on this. I don't fully strip the bars for the same logic.

    I wouldn't leave more than one plate on it though. If I came to a bar to deadlift, Id prefer there to be some plates on the end, no matter what they are, as it makes the bar easier to manage. It's awkward putting a first plate onto a bar unless it's sitting in a rack.

    I don't mind what peoples methods are so long as they have at least give some consideration to it. In light of this thread maybe I will be a bit more vigilant but for the moment, I'm happy to leave 25s on the bar. I'm just going to keep an eye on who approaches the bars and what they do with them from now on. But to be fair, I barely ever see the girls on the bars, its mostly lads so I think it's optimal to leave some weight on.

    Bent over rows with one hand on the dumbbell racks gets me every time. And occasionally find a disgusting bench not wiped down.

    Its best to strip it. Girls probably avoid using the bar after you as it is loaded. And frequently I see smaller people (usually girls/young lads) warming up with a weightless bar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,624 ✭✭✭NoQuarter


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Loading a bar for a deadlift might be awkward. Do you know what's even more awkward... Unloading it first because someone else didn't bother
    If you can lift it you are well able to put it away yourself

    You've missed the point again. I am well able to put it away. I consciously don't completely unload it because of UCDvets reasoning. That someone else is just going to load it up again.
    UCDVet's reasoning is that it is silly to strip a bar if someone is going to put on the plates again.

    The majority in a gym will start a warm up with an empty bar.

    Sure there may be some who will warm up with 60 but the majority won't.

    It's just good gym etiquette to strip a bar.

    That's leaving aside that someone will come into the gym, see plates on the bar and think someone is using the rack and gone to the jacks or to get water.

    I don't think I agree with any of that if I'm honest. I think the majority would warm up with weight on the bar. I do see some people warming up with just a bar, I also see some people warming up with weight. So it's 50/50 for me and I choose to leave it loaded. I would prefer to walk up to a loaded bar myself. Of course, the weight should be reasonable, and yes I know different weights are more reasonable to some than others, which is why I think 1 plate is fine.

    There are always stripped bars standing in the corner of my gym anyway so they can be used. The bars in the rack and on the DL platform I see no problem with being constantly loaded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,631 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Some of this conversation is so silly:

    - If I am pressing I start with an empty bar always
    - If I am benching I start with an empty bar always
    - If I am squatting I start with an empty bar always
    - If I am doing Clean / Snatch Pulls I start with 40kgs on the bar
    - If I am doing Power Cleans / Power Snatches I usually start with an empty bar
    - If I am doing Deadlifts I start with 60kgs on the bar always

    **If the bar is in a rack I more than likely need to move it to a different pin than you work off before I begin**

    The vast majority of the time I am starting some warmup sets or some sort of drill with an empty bar. There are plenty out there stronger than me, but I wouldn't be particularly weak. Keeping 60kgs on the bar due to an assumption that is the minimum most people will use is so silly.

    I assume some if not all of you are trolling of course in which case - well done, you got me to write this so you win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭power pants


    same here

    bench - bar on its own
    squats- bar on its own
    deadlifts -60kg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭heroics


    NoQuarter wrote: »
    You've missed the point again. I am well able to put it away. I consciously don't completely unload it because of UCDvets reasoning. That someone else is just going to load it up again.



    I don't think I agree with any of that if I'm honest. I think the majority would warm up with weight on the bar. I do see some people warming up with just a bar, I also see some people warming up with weight. So it's 50/50 for me and I choose to leave it loaded. I would prefer to walk up to a loaded bar myself. Of course, the weight should be reasonable, and yes I know different weights are more reasonable to some than others, which is why I think 1 plate is fine.

    There are always stripped bars standing in the corner of my gym anyway so they can be used. The bars in the rack and on the DL platform I see no problem with being constantly loaded.

    The part in bold is the problem. Everyone depending on their strength will have a different idea of reasonable. You seem to be deviding the gym population 50/50 those that warm up with no weight and those that warm up with 60kg or greater. There are a good number of people in the gym I go to that max squat is 60. Their idea of reasonable might be bar +10kg each side so they leave this on the bar. I then need to strip these to put 20s on.

    Or you leave the 20s on the bar and I want to do BB OH press. My warm up is 40 KGs so because you were too lazy to unload the bar I need to unload it for you. (I know you said it is not laziness but it kind of is. You don't want the hassle of loading/unloading the bar)

    Nobody knows what the next person is going to do with the bar so its easier for everyone if you leave the bar stripped and ready for the next person. In reality only takes 30 seconds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    NoQuarter wrote: »
    I don't think I agree with any of that if I'm honest. I think the majority would warm up with weight on the bar. I do see some people warming up with just a bar, I also see some people warming up with weight. So it's 50/50 for me and I choose to leave it loaded. I would prefer to walk up to a loaded bar myself. Of course, the weight should be reasonable, and yes I know different weights are more reasonable to some than others, which is why I think 1 plate is fine..


    It's different to any other gym I've been to so.

    But do you leave it loaded because you want to be the guy that made it easier for the next person?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Hammar


    I've often left 60 KG on the bar at hip level.
    I also work in the aforementioned gym.
    I must be a monster according to the OP. :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,624 ✭✭✭NoQuarter


    It's not laziness at all, after all, I change the plates when I approach the bar from the ones previously left on it. I have no bother doing this.

    Anyway, I do like to abide by gym etiquette if it makes sense so I will be more vigilant in future, but I've already given a lot of thought to what I do so if I still feel the same way in a while I will continue as I am.


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