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Why are people who express opinion other than the popular on castigated as wrong?

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  • #32
    Venus In Furs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Venus In Furs


    conorh91 wrote: »
    Because boards.ie is a glorified version of the journal.ie
    I genuinely think it's streets ahead. Sure there are people who blindly post and thank drivel, but for each one of them, there is a thoughtful, highly intelligent person. And there are mods.
    ardle1 wrote: »
    Eh in all fairness, there has to be a reason you don't believe in God!?:confused:
    IMO that's something that actually doesn't require quantification, because it's a belief, nothing more.


  • #33
    AlanS181824
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    yoo soundd upsett hun

    U ok?

    Chat me xox


  • #34
    RDM_83 again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    Its definitely sometimes better to be coming out with the right line on here, for some stuff its nebulous and can't really be defined but there's times somethings factually incorrect and it gets loads of thanks because it fits the narrative.
    Can think of two examples quickly that involve my posting (sure there's millions more).

    Native Americans had the practice of scalping introduced by European colonists, demonstrably false.
    In that thread about the birth-cert changes for the trans-woman recently, posters kept saying its great she can now get a passport with the right gender even though that had been the case for a couple of years AFAIK, and people that must have known thats the case were thanking it :confused:

    If a viewpoint is valid* it doesn't need things made up to support it, it will stand its case on the reality rather than the tilting at windmills that goes on here a lot.

    * And most of these view points that are popular are valid, but its easy thanks and kudos if you repeat points over and over or massively exaggerate the negatives of the opposing side. There's posters here who are way younger than me that seem to have teleported out of 1950's Ireland the way they have a chip on their shoulder about stuff rather than being probably 18 in 2010 :rolleyes:


  • #35
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    It'd be a pretty dull and pointless website if the threads ran along the lines of

    "I don't like gay marriage"

    "Well that's your opinion I guess"

    Too many very very short threads, yeah pointless really. Why even express an opinion based on nothing with no reason behind it?
    (besides, there probably is a reason you don't like cheese, or Islam or hop-skotch. Just because you haven't taken the time, or don't care to try, to identify the reason you dislike something, doesn't mean there is no reason.)


  • #36
    RobYourBuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    I was set to abstain or vote no. I don't believe in marriage. But I'm a yes now voter purely from reading and learning.

    This is a decent little forum.

    Oh, and I'm considered a nazi even though I make sure I add a few links to back up my points.


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  • #37
    harney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭harney


    RobYourBuilder wrote: »

    Oh, and I'm considered a nazi even though I make sure I add a few links to back up my points.

    Neo or old skool?


  • #38
    Dirty Steve
    Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭Dirty Steve


    Would have thought hating U2 was the norm in this country.

    They've been so smug in recent years I'm surprised they don't get egged in the street.


  • #39
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    It winds me up no end when listening to interviews or reading social media that people are considered 'wrong' for not holding the 'correct' (popular) view on a topic...

    Is it wrong for me to hate the color green? For no reason other than my personal opinion?
    Is it wrong that i didnt / dont believe in God, Jesus etc? Again, no reason, just dont?
    Is it wrong to be against SSM or pro abortion or hate GAA or hate U2 or enjoy watching England play football, ...

    Why do people look for you to have a reason behind an opinion? Can it not just be 'because i do/dont'?

    No, but it is wrong to berate people who like the colour green with all sorts of personal abuse, label them "liberals" or "nazis" and then completly fail to provide any form of backup as to why green is an immoral colour, and then play the victim card pretending that you were criticised for merely stating an unusual opinion.

    Having unusual opinoin =/= not being required to explain your opinion

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #40
    Lingua Franca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Lingua Franca


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    It winds me up no end when listening to interviews or reading social media that people are considered 'wrong' for not holding the 'correct' (popular) view on a topic...

    I'm seeing people whinging and moaning about this a lot these days. Basically, people disagree with you. And me. And everyone else. About anything and everything. This is the way the world is, and it's all the better for it. But some people cannot handle dissent and think they are somehow being oppressed or even more insanley, their their freedom of speech is being denied when other people disagree with the things they say in public. That's usually when they go off topic and start crying about the "looney left" oppressing them. Freedom of thought/speech/opinion goes for everyone. That means you can assert and people can dissent.

    As for "wrong" and "popular"... that's just the zeitgeist and it seems to me to be mostly moving forward in a way that is positive for humanity and we're better for it. Remember, it's not that long ago that it was acceptable to be vocally and unabashedly racist. It was so recent in time that some older people think it still is acceptable. It's not, and society hasn't collapsed since we stopped treating black people as 3/5's of a man. We even allow whites and blacks to marry now and society still hasn't collapsed.

    I personally view the current crowd of people against equal rights for LGBTs in exactly the same way I view those people who argued against civil rights for blacks in the US in the 1950s and those against civil rights for Catholics in the north in the 1960s. I also respond to them accordingly, and then they cry about oppression and their rights and freedom of speech and not being allowed to speak and and and :rolleyes:
    Why do people look for you to have a reason behind an opinion? Can it not just be 'because i do/dont'?

    If someone cannot back their opinions up and is going to get butthurt when asked to justify and explain them then they absolutely shouldn't be airing their opinions in public.


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