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Why are people who express opinion other than the popular on castigated as wrong?

  • 06-01-2015 01:33AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭


    It winds me up no end when listening to interviews or reading social media that people are considered 'wrong' for not holding the 'correct' (popular) view on a topic...

    Is it wrong for me to hate the color green? For no reason other than my personal opinion?
    Is it wrong that i didnt / dont believe in God, Jesus etc? Again, no reason, just dont?
    Is it wrong to be against SSM or pro abortion or hate GAA or hate U2 or enjoy watching England play football, ...

    Why do people look for you to have a reason behind an opinion? Can it not just be 'because i do/dont'?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    When anyone asks my opinion on a hot topic like those, I just walk away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    Why do people look for you to have a reason behind an opinion? Can it not just be 'because i do/dont'?

    Well a colour preference and an opinion on abortion are totally comparable for a start. Definitely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Opinions are like assholes.

    Smelly as fcuk if they aren't reassessed daily


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭qt3.14


    Because most people are insecure. When you say you disagree with them you're challenging their beliefs and they can't handle it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Suppose people like to feel that they are right no matter what.

    Although you can see pack mentality on forums sites from time to time, where if someone expresses a different opinion they get absolutely destroyed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    Why do people look for you to have a reason behind an opinion? Can it not just be 'because i do/dont'?

    Of course someone can do that. I think they'd be a bit simple though. Not knowing why they're doing anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭deise08


    Do you want to hug it out?

    --o--


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    qt3.14 wrote: »
    Because most people are insecure. When you say you disagree with them you're challenging their beliefs and they can't handle it.

    True.

    If someone says their favourite colour is green I'm all like "What the f*ck have you got against mauve you pr*ck?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    If it is something like tayto vs walkers then you dont need to explain it. If it is something like FF should be in government then you'll probably have some reasoning behind it. It depends on whether or not the opinion affects them.

    People probably wont care if you hate U2 but might if you are trying to get them banned, or even putting it on everyone's itunes account :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Well a colour preference and an opinion on abortion are totally comparable for a start. Definitely.

    "Must resisttttttttttt bannable joke............."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    I think it's a phenomenon known as groupthink.

    Also, Irish people are sheep.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Green is a lovely colour. What do you have against green? Is it because the colour green is associated with Ireland? Hate the Irish do ya?

    RACIST! :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,958 ✭✭✭delthedriver


    Suppose people like to feel that they are right no matter what.

    Although you can see pack mentality on forums sites from time to time, where if someone expresses a different opinion they get absolutely destroyed.

    Herd mentality ! See it on Boards regularly, though it would be also reflected in daily life, work, sport etc.

    It is sad when someone is asked for an opinion that they end up being castigated , belittled , or isolated by the majority because they wish to remain popular with the boss, the mod, the teacher ETC.

    Sadly this is 2015 and the way people behave.

    However do not let anyone stop you from airing your opinion, you are not alone, there are like minded people out there( even though they may be slow to come forward. ) Be brave it may encourage others to air their true thoughts also.!

    Most important of all, be your own person !!! Happy New Year:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Bootros Bootros


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    It winds me up no end when listening to interviews or reading social media that people are considered 'wrong' for not holding the 'correct' (popular) view on a topic...

    Is it wrong for me to hate the color green? For no reason other than my personal opinion?
    Is it wrong that i didnt / dont believe in God, Jesus etc? Again, no reason, just dont?
    Is it wrong to be against SSM or pro abortion or hate GAA or hate U2 or enjoy watching England play football, ...

    Why do people look for you to have a reason behind an opinion? Can it not just be 'because i do/dont'?

    Pretty much all those opinions are popular with anybody under 30. ( SSM opposition excepted).


    I'm surprised you didn't add you hated Mrs Browns Boys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Bootros Bootros


    However on the general theme this reminds me of a common conversation I have with a prickly relative.

    Prickly Relative I believe blah blah blah.
    me that's wrong because .... reasonable comment.
    PR Can I not have my opinion?
    me Sure but I disagree and I have mine.
    PR Why do you always disagree?
    me You're generally wrong.
    PR You're being mean! Why can't I opine?
    me Be as opinionated as you want but people will have different ideas to you. That's life

    So it goes. Very little in the Ops list is new or original in any case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Venus In Furs


    If you say e.g. "I hate people from Fairview", people aren't unreasonable to assume you're a bit thick until you have an actual explanation.
    Reason being, people are too nuanced and are more than their location.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭GT_TDI_150


    Pretty much all those opinions are popular with anybody under 30. ( SSM opposition excepted).


    I'm surprised you didn't add you hated Mrs Browns Boys.

    Tbf, cant stand him/her either :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,958 ✭✭✭delthedriver


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    Tbf, cant stand him/her either :p

    Me too ! Can't watch such a vile programe

    Sure it is popular with the masses, fine if that is what they like:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭Sound of Silence


    Well, to put it to the point, no one likes a contrarian. You see, there's always that one person who vehemently disagrees with popular opinion, solely out of a fear of being considered boring or mundane! They must always cast themselves as an outsider with weird and unique thoughts, all of which reek of insincerity. I know this because I was teenager once, too.

    Case in point: The fact that sheep have already been mentioned unironically in this thread!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭harney


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    It winds me up no end when listening to interviews or reading social media that people are considered 'wrong' for not holding the 'correct' (popular) view on a topic...

    Is it wrong for me to hate the color green? For no reason other than my personal opinion?
    Is it wrong that i didnt / dont believe in God, Jesus etc? Again, no reason, just dont?
    Is it wrong to be against SSM or pro abortion or hate GAA or hate U2 or enjoy watching England play football, ...

    Why do people look for you to have a reason behind an opinion? Can it not just be 'because i do/dont'?

    Nearly 5 years in the site and you can't work out that it is uber popular to hate U2. You are part of the herd OP, deal with it and like Bono, get over yourself.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Bootros Bootros


    Me too ! Can't watch such a vile programe

    Sure it is popular with the masses, fine if that is what they like:)

    It's actually unpopular with the masses. the most common thing on here is for groupthinkers to castigate it. Rather than not watch it. Like most of us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Bootros Bootros


    Well, to put it to the point, no one likes a contrarian. You see, there's always that one person who vehemently disagrees with popular opinion, solely out of a fear of being considered boring or mundane! They must always cast themselves as an outsider with weird and unique thoughts, all of which reek of insincerity. I know this because I was teenager once, too.

    Case in point: The fact that sheep have already been mentioned unironically in this thread!

    It's not that. There was nothing contrarian in his post. Standard stuff for boards. its that he expects to have no disagreement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus



    Case in point: The fact that sheep have already been mentioned unironically in this thread!

    I'm intrigued.

    How would one mention a sheep ironically?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    Because boards.ie is a glorified version of the journal.ie

    Try this.

    Make three or four absolutely outrageously false—but provocative—statements.

    If you are just provocative enough, you will get more thanks than you will corrections.

    In fact, you may get no corrections at all.

    It really makes you wonder about the world when you can deliberately state malicious, pernicious, misleading falsehoods, only for you to be retweeted on twitter, or thanked on boards.ie, and never once corrected. It sounds like trolling, but it isn't. It;s a great education in how misled and how misinformed most users of the web actually are.

    Pardon the pessimistic outlook but, most people on the internet seem to be complete idiots who will thank anything at all, so long as it strikes a chord on its first reading.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    I agree with what they ^^said


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭Sound of Silence


    catallus wrote: »
    I'm intrigued.

    How would one mention a sheep ironically?

    In that using the term "Sheeple" is in itself ridiculous.

    People often use the term as a joke, either to deride edgy teenagers or wacky conspiracy theorists. But in this case, it was used sincerely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    In that using the term "Sheeple" is in itself ridiculous.

    Like a vegetarian eating a lamb-chop? Oooookaaaayyy :rolleyes:

    Anyway, I'm sure sheep don't understand irony as a concept. So it's not a valid point, really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    Its the right to free speech at work. In some places on this planet expressing an opposing view to that what people are forced to accept by authorities can land you in jail or worse.
    To qoute someone "While i reject your opinion out of hand i will defend to the death your right to express it" or words to that effect.
    I like to sit on the fence and see both sides argue their points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Robsweezie


    Well, to put it to the point, no one likes a contrarian. You see, there's always that one person who vehemently disagrees with popular opinion, solely out of a fear of being considered boring or mundane! They must always cast themselves as an outsider with weird and unique thoughts, all of which reek of insincerity. I know this because I was teenager once, too.

    katie Hopkins in a nutshell


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭ardle1


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    It winds me up no end when listening to interviews or reading social media that people are considered 'wrong' for not holding the 'correct' (popular) view on a topic...

    Is it wrong for me to hate the color green? For no reason other than my personal opinion?
    Is it wrong that i didnt / dont believe in God, Jesus etc? Again, no reason, just dont?
    Is it wrong to be against SSM or pro abortion or hate GAA or hate U2 or enjoy watching England play football, ...

    Why do people look for you to have a reason behind an opinion? Can it not just be 'because i do/dont'?

    Eh in all fairness, there has to be a reason you don't believe in God!?:confused:


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