Milk Price- Please read Mod note in post #1

mahoney_j · 03-01-2015 08:02PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

As I've proved to you Mj you do not need big platform for xbreds or jersey although. My herd now is 50:50 split between jex je and high ebi fr

Yes you do,what would u prefer 0on a 100 acre milk platform 125 cows doing 7500 Ltrs and 600 kg solids on 1.2 tonne of 125 cows doing 5 k ltrs and 500 kg solids on say 8//900 kg in an average grass growth year.i know what I want if u take say a 12 cent margin on 500 k ltrs or or 10 cent on 750k who's better off.u need acres and really 150/200 plus to really push low meal and x breeds

stanflt · 03-01-2015 08:03PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Yes you do,what would u prefer 0on a 100 acre milk platform 125 cows doing 7500 Ltrs and 600 kg solids on 1.2 tonne of 125 cows doing 5 k ltrs and 500 kg solids on say 8//900 kg in an average grass growth year.i know what I want if u take say a 12 cent margin on 500 k ltrs or or 10 cent on 750k who's better off.u need acres and really 150/200 plus to really push low meal and x breeds

World war 17 just broke out

Coonagh · 03-01-2015 08:16PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Agree with ye but it's horses for courses,I kmow a few of these big Holstein breeders with pedigree herds and some of the finest cows you'll ever see.no faith in ebi, mostly milking and calving for 10/12 months of the year with long lactations and huge volumes of milk.its there system and there happy with it and there making money from it.thing is it ain't all from milk,there selling Bulls and heifers/calves cows for money 1000s of euros as well and that is adding hugely to bottom end figure at end of the year.often these guys haven't huge milking platforms which guys milking x breeds have and can exploit that system.a bull calf and. Cull is just a bi product.
I've been on a couple of ihfa walks and open days and whilst I'm in that position with limited land I like Stan have full faith in ebi .i can't figure out why guys like Stan and Jim Delaunay in birr aren't given more print space by the ihfa as both have very high genetic worth Holstein herds with Bulls in ai.

good points re ihfa, I too have full faith in EBI, I was more having a Pop at the liquid/holstein men that think anything coming out of Moorepark/Teagasc is some sort of conspiracy designed to wipe out their cows!!!!!

Greengrass1 · 03-01-2015 08:23PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Yes you do,what would u prefer 0on a 100 acre milk platform 125 cows doing 7500 Ltrs and 600 kg solids on 1.2 tonne of 125 cows doing 5 k ltrs and 500 kg solids on say 8//900 kg in an average grass growth year.i know what I want if u take say a 12 cent margin on 500 k ltrs or or 10 cent on 750k who's better off.u need acres and really 150/200 plus to really push low meal and x breeds

Haven't got to add up last yrs solids from mid jan to mid November but reckon about 505/510kgs sold on 600kg meal. Definitely hoping to to do same next yrs. For double the meal don't know many higher yielding herds doing much better with good conception rates

mahoney_j · 03-01-2015 08:31PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Haven't got to add up last yrs solids from mid jan to mid November but reckon about 505/510kgs sold on 600kg meal. Definitely hoping to to do same next yrs. For double the meal don't know many higher yielding herds doing much better with good conception rates

7400 odd ltrs per cow sold 580 kg solids on 1.250 tonnes and a heap of grass,8 k ltrs would of been achieved only for levy and 620 kg solids if I could of feed a different spec nut at grass at same quantity.thatcwas for my full production year 29 jan to 15 December .294 average days in milk

Coonagh · 03-01-2015 08:33PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

7400 odd ltrs per cow sold 580 kg solids on 1.250 tonnes and a heap of grass,8 k ltrs would of been achieved only for levy and 620 kg solids if I could of feed a different spec nut at grass at same quantity.thatcwas for my full production year 29 jan to 15 December .294 average days in milk

Great figures mj......can't help but think they are perfect cows for a jersey bull!!! Runs like fcuk

Coonagh · 03-01-2015 08:41PM

Enough of this mickey measuring!!!

Mj you have great cows, GG you have great cows, give each other a hug before ye fall out. Next thing this will be like one of the beef threads!!

mahoney_j · 03-01-2015 08:52PM

Coonagh wrote: »

Enough of this mickey measuring!!!

Mj you have great cows, GG you have great cows, give each other a hug before ye fall out. Next thing this will be like one of the beef threads!!

No intention of falling out with anyone here.gg has a great herd of cows doing great solids not going to argue with that.all I wasxtrying to do was bring a bit of balance to the thread ,every farm is different and situation big land blocks can't be ran same as small blocks,profit is key but different ways to go about it.

mf240 · 03-01-2015 08:54PM

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Greengrass1 · 03-01-2015 09:24PM

Coonagh wrote: »

Enough of this mickey measuring!!!

Mj you have great cows, GG you have great cows, give each other a hug before ye fall out. Next thing this will be like one of the beef threads!!

This would be a fierce boring place if we all agreed

just do it · 03-01-2015 09:28PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Yes you do,what would u prefer 0on a 100 acre milk platform 125 cows doing 7500 Ltrs and 600 kg solids on 1.2 tonne of 125 cows doing 5 k ltrs and 500 kg solids on say 8//900 kg in an average grass growth year.i know what I want if u take say a 12 cent margin on 500 k ltrs or or 10 cent on 750k who's better off.u need acres and really 150/200 plus to really push low meal and x breeds

x-bred is a lighter cow and therefore higher SR? kg solids per ha mightn't be that much different? Regardless of farm size I see the x-bred as preferable on wet farms.

darragh_haven · 03-01-2015 10:07PM

Can ye wrap this up soon. Running low on ...

Brown Podzol · 03-01-2015 10:32PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

Stan you forgot Rock salt from some far flung place

Himalayan. Sounds like the answer to crossword clue "what is that fellow doing in the knocking shop?":D

frazzledhome · 03-01-2015 10:49PM

Brown Podzol wrote: »

Himalayan. Sounds like the answer to crossword clue "what is that fellow doing in the knocking shop?":D

Lol

I couldn't spell Himalayan:)

awaywithyou · 04-01-2015 09:07AM

stanflt wrote: »

I didn't even get a mention in the winter Ihfa journal for winning an award in the section where they congratulate members on success

Think I'm annoying people with productivity

yuo got a mention in the notes by the west midlands hfbc... they visited you and a very robust debate took place on the radical change your implementing...

they also commented on your great grass and attention to detail....

ps i think you've a dairymaster parlour!

kevthegaff · 04-01-2015 10:09AM

If it means anything stan I appreciate what your doing:-)

stanflt · 04-01-2015 11:03AM

kevthegaff wrote: »

If it means anything stan I appreciate what your doing:-)

Thanks Kev I cried myself to sleep last night!!!!

Dawggone · 04-01-2015 03:51PM

Got text from coop. Milk price.

Jan 34.3 cpl
Feb 33.3 cpl
Mar. 31.9 cpl

Base price vat not inc.

mahoney_j · 04-01-2015 04:12PM

Dawggone wrote: »

Got text from coop. Milk price.

Jan 34.3 cpl
Feb 33.3 cpl
Mar. 31.9 cpl

Base price vat not inc.

Most of us still don't know Decembers price not to mind jan,feb or March.are these set minimum prices dwag or can there be movement up or down.thery are pretty good base prices to be fair.next gdt auction on Tuesday will be interesting ,last 2 auctions were positive

Dawggone · 04-01-2015 04:29PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Most of us still don't know Decembers price not to mind jan,feb or March.are these set minimum prices dwag or can there be movement up or down.thery are pretty good base prices to be fair.next gdt auction on Tuesday will be interesting ,last 2 auctions were positive

Base on an open ticket - if price rises it's added.
Base = 3.2 p and 3.5 f

frazzledhome · 04-01-2015 04:30PM

Dawggone wrote: »

Got text from coop. Milk price.

Jan 34.3 cpl
Feb 33.3 cpl
Mar. 31.9 cpl

Base price vat not inc.

Just shows what a big domestic market coupled with static production can do for price.

Dawggone · 04-01-2015 04:59PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

Just shows what a big domestic market coupled with static production can do for price.

Production is up 7% ytd. Big superlevy up the north.

Basically the UK is the same as here so why the big price differential? Supermarkets?

frazzledhome · 04-01-2015 05:08PM

Dawggone wrote: »

Production is up 7% ytd. Big superlevy up the north.

Basically the UK is the same as here so why the big price differential? Supermarkets?

Supermarkets, guy out of contract are being screwed royally

RightTurnClyde · 04-01-2015 05:22PM

Dawggone wrote: »

Production is up 7% ytd. Big superlevy up the north.

Basically the UK is the same as here so why the big price differential? Supermarkets?

...and the lack of dung/slurry spreaders outside gov buildings. There is a bit more respect for the farmers where you are. So a bit more "with not against" attitude. The consumer & purchaser in the UK never misses an opportunity to shovel sh1t downhill.

frazzledhome · 04-01-2015 06:52PM

Dawggone wrote: »

Production is up 7% ytd. Big superlevy up the north.

Basically the UK is the same as here so why the big price differential? Supermarkets?

Is your quota not national ie if all France is under does some still pry fine?

Dawggone · 04-01-2015 07:28PM

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

...never misses an opportunity to shovel sh1t downhill.

Nice turn of phrase!:)

Dawggone · 04-01-2015 07:33PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

Is your quota not national ie if all France is under does some still pry fine?

Same as you...
If you're over you pay.
Lots in the dairy area over quota as it was an extraordinary year for grass up there.
With the country as a whole over quota there will be some producers hard hit.

I Predict some "unrest" in Paris in March.

quader · 04-01-2015 08:04PM

stanflt wrote: »

I didn't even get a mention in the winter Ihfa journal for winning an award in the section where they congratulate members on success

Think I'm annoying people with productivity

maybe a case of jealousy stan fair fubk to you im envious:):):):)

Greengrass1 · 04-01-2015 08:29PM

It goes completely against the mantra of IHFA. Mention grass or ebi to any Holstein men I know and completely scoff it. Its too much work, sure they have grass blah blah blah.
Stan is showing them up.
While I do appreciate a nice looking cow they have to work for you not you working for them

Brown Podzol · 04-01-2015 09:47PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

It goes completely against the mantra of IHFA. Mention grass or ebi to any Holstein men I know and completely scoff it. Its too much work, sure they have grass blah blah blah.
Stan is showing them up.
While I do appreciate a nice looking cow they have to work for you not you working for them

Ah I don't know about that. IHFA farm walk here a few years ago, a high type, high yielding herd crossed with high EBI kiwi friesian. Plenty of compliments. 510 kg solids delivered this year on 700 kg meal stocked at 3.6 in 270 days. I'd say I left 60 kg's after me due to quota. 367 day calving interval last year and 90% 6 week in calf rate this year.

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