Japanese Student Raped In India Over a Number of Weeks

Cathy.C · 03-01-2015 09:13PM

If the recent revelations regarding Rotherham are anything to go by, it would seem that this is far from a problem which is confined to Islamic countries but also unfortunately common place in some Muslim communities elsewhere in the world .

Nodin · 03-01-2015 09:14PM

Cathy.C wrote: »

If the recent revelations regarding Rotherham are anything to go by, it would seem that this is far from a problem which is confined to Islamic countries.

India isn't an Islamic country.

JONJO THE MISER · 03-01-2015 10:27PM

Why would anyone want to go to India in the first place, open running sewage in the cities etc

RobYourBuilder · 03-01-2015 10:44PM

My name is URL wrote:

Up to 20% of rapes in the US are gang rapes. It just doesn't get much attention in the media for whatever reason.

My name is URL wrote: »

Well I don't know about motives but there's no denying it's perpetrated mostly by young black males.

Probably answered your own question there.

Grayson · 03-01-2015 10:58PM

Cathy.C wrote: »

If the recent revelations regarding Rotherham are anything to go by, it would seem that this is far from a problem which is confined to Islamic countries but also unfortunately common place in come Muslim communities elsewhere in the world .

An those grooming circles in the UK aren't limited to muslims

maneno · 03-01-2015 11:08PM

That was hard to watch,poor women,:(

Grayson wrote: »

To be fair, even though it might happen everywhere it's worse in that part of the world. India does have a rapey culture. As does Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Here's a vice piece about Bangladesh where they talk to police, victims and even rapists. the prevailing attitude is that any woman who gets raped deserved/wanted it

RobYourBuilder · 03-01-2015 11:08PM

Grayson wrote: »

An those grooming circles in the UK aren't limited to muslims

Sure. But the number of Muslims(code word: Asians) involved in grooming gangs are vastly disproportionate to their population size.

A 2011 study by the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre looked at the 2,379 potential offenders caught grooming girls since 2008. Of 940 suspects whose race could be identified, 26% were Asian, 38% were white and 32% were recorded as unknown. Asians are roughly 7% of the population.

A report for the children's commissioner in 2012 found there were 1,514 perpetrators. Of these, 545 were white, 415 were Asian and 244 were black. The ethnicity of 21% of perpetrators was not recorded. Attempts to analyse the Asian figure further runs into problems. Just 35 of the 415 Asians are recorded as having Pakistani heritage and thus highly likely to be Muslim, and only five are recorded as being from a Bangladeshi background. The heritage of 366 of the Asian group is not stated in those figures.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/may/14/child-grooming-sexual-abuse-race

nokia69 · 03-01-2015 11:15PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Why would anyone want to go to India in the first place, open running sewage in the cities etc

its an interesting country, but its like marmite

Baggy Trousers · 03-01-2015 11:46PM

nokia69 wrote: »

its an interesting country, but its like marmite

I like how you are comparing marmite to open sewers.

That Japanese woman is very lucky to be alive. India has a long way to go for sexual equality and seems to be making little progress.

biko · 03-01-2015 11:48PM

It scares the living hell out of me that some people can be so callous as to kidnap a person and keep them prisoner for their own pleasures.

How ****ed up in the head do you need to be to even consider doing it?

nokia69 · 04-01-2015 12:19AM

Baggy Trousers wrote: »

I like how you are comparing marmite to open sewers.

That Japanese woman is very lucky to be alive. India has a long way to go for sexual equality and seems to be making little progress.

no I'm comparing India to marmite

people go to India and the either love it or hate it, there seems to be no middle ground

I don't know if the Japanese woman likes marmite, but I bet she hates India

jimboblep · 04-01-2015 12:24AM

Nodin wrote: »

India isn't an Islamic country.

If you read her post she acknowledges that fact, she goes on to say is it an issue within the muslim communities in non muslim countries.
also india does have a sizable muslim population 180 million approx.

Fratton Fred · 04-01-2015 12:41AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I have no desire to ever visit India even though I'd love to visit Asian countries like China, Japan, Thailand.

Most definitely not a fan of the Indian people I've met.

Your loss then. I've only been to one Indian city, but I found Indians to be incredibly welcoming.

I'm not a young single female though.

Meangadh · 04-01-2015 12:44AM

Yeah I have to say I'd have no interest in ever going to India. I'm sure there are plenty of lovely people there and amazing places to see, but given the poverty, overcrowding and treatment of women there- I'd happily give it a miss. It's a big world, plenty other places for me to see where I'm not worried travelling around as a woman.

Cathy.C · 04-01-2015 01:12AM

Nodin wrote: »

India isn't an Islamic country.

I think you know the point which I was making but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and clarify it for you..

Many users made comments suggesting that because of how some Muslim men in India treat women they would never ever go there. My comment was highlighting how that in and of itself wouldn't mean all that much and certainly wouldn't result in an absolute avoidance of such men as there are in fact many Muslim men behaving in quite similar ways within Muslim communities which are not all synonymous with Islam (in this case: the UK).

Yes you're correct, India is not an Islamic country but there are more Muslims in India than there are in almost any other country in the world (with the obvious exception of Pakistan and Indonesia) and so pointing out that India isn't an Islamic country is pretty pointless pedanticismto be fair, as it in no way negates the point which I was making.

John_Rambo · 04-01-2015 01:34AM

I've traveled around India, it's incomprehensibly massive compared to our country and their cities are insanely big compared to European cities. 99% of Indian's I came across were good people, there's a lot of backward thinking, male dominated hinterland with a dubious thinking law and justice system

Speaking off, in our comparable tiny country, we had a Swiss girl tragically raped and murdered in Galway after only arriving three days earlier by a native who'd already killed a young Tip man after being released early from prison!

He'd previously blinded an elderly man. No doubt this character was out and about due to a perfect justice and law system, he's half way through his sentence now and will most likely be out in seven years time. According to the experts, he will do it again.

Intensive Care Bear · 04-01-2015 02:23AM

A few years ago my ex travelled around India on her own, every day she was constantly harassed by men, gangs of blokes would follow her taking pictures and trying to grab her, the fact she had blonde hair and pale skin made them flock to her.

lanos · 04-01-2015 02:55AM

John_Rambo wrote: »

Speaking off, in our comparable tiny country, we had a Swiss girl tragically raped and murdered in Galway after only arriving three days earlier by a native who'd already killed a young Tip man after being released early from prison!

There are bad apples in every country
however, there is not a gang rape CULTURE in most countries

sorry for generalising here
Ireland has a drinking culture
France has a café culture
Australia has a beach culture
Nigeria has a scam culture
USA has no culture
India has a gang rape culture

This is not a crime you can blame on poverty, like theft for example.
This is a the result of a sick patriarchal society.
and as long as it is tolerated in india, I will be encouraging my nieces to never date
an indian man regardless of how nice he seems. he might be fine, but the risk is too
great that he will regard women with lesser status. it seems to be ingrained in the psyche.

Venus In Furs · 04-01-2015 03:21AM

I don't see the point in the whataboutery.
Yes there have been horrible rape cases in Ireland, like anywhere - a country without rape occurring would be an impossible utopia unfortunately.

I am still glad and grateful as fuq that I'm a woman in Ireland rather than a woman in a lot of places in India though.

04-01-2015 03:39AM

Would maybe go solo but would never take the girlfriend there.. And it's below a lot of countries on my bucket list anyway. Rapes are one thing but gang rapes just say "we are a sick people".

B.A._Baracus · 04-01-2015 04:52AM

From having been on nights out with female friends who had "issues" with Indian men in a bar/club ... I personally believe that there are alot of Indian men out there who are perverts.
Each one of those experiences had a very common scary aspect. That being each one of them had a hard time accepting the girl wasnt in to them. Now look, I am not going to tarnish an entire nation of people. But feck me. It happened in all the cases.

lanos · 04-01-2015 01:41PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

From having been on nights out with female friends who had "issues" with Indian men in a bar/club.

What country did these incidents happen in ?

AndonHandon · 10-02-2015 12:54AM

Well, another two horrendous rapes have been reported in India http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-31282673; one victim was a Japanese female tourist and the other was a 28 year old, mentally ill Nepalese woman. The Nepalese lady was unfortunately tortured in what was a brutal death;

"The injuries suggest she was hit on the head with a heavy object, became partly unconscious and was then gang-raped. Animals and rodents had eaten bits of the body," Dr SK Dhattarwal said.

The post mortem revealed that stones, blades and sticks were forced inside her during the attack, reports said.

The endemic of rape culture in India, not just confined to rural parts, is consistently shocking. A truly awful society in which to be a woman.

AngryHippie · 10-02-2015 01:16AM

That is seriusly messed up.
I knew the place was fairly grim for females, but that is real horror story **** there.

Too many people, not enough law, and a messed up caste system and patriarchal society.

WTF is wrong with them though

FTA69 · 10-02-2015 01:45AM

Cathy.C wrote: »

I think you know the point which I was making but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and clarify it for you..

Many users made comments suggesting that because of how some Muslim men in India treat women they would never ever go there. My comment was highlighting how that in and of itself wouldn't mean all that much and certainly wouldn't result in an absolute avoidance of such men as there are in fact many Muslim men behaving in quite similar ways within Muslim communities which are not all synonymous with Islam (in this case: the UK).

Yes you're correct, India is not an Islamic country but there are more Muslims in India than there are in almost any other country in the world (with the obvious exception of Pakistan and Indonesia) and so pointing out that India isn't an Islamic country is pretty pointless pedanticismto be fair, as it in no way negates the point which I was making.

Your point is still stupid because the rape epidemic in India isn't perpetrated solely by Indian Muslims but it's prevalent throughout the country as a whole; as much amongst the Hindus as anyone else.

BlaasForRafa · 10-02-2015 04:33AM

This subject came up on this forum a while ago with regards to another gang rape attack in India, that time on an Indian girl. I did some research at the time and it's right to say that it's not just a problem with muslims, it's a problem that's endemic among both hindus and muslims in the indian subcontinent.

And it's not just the rape, gang-rape and murder of women, it's also the general attitude to women in large parts of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. It's the so-called "honour" killings, women being burned to death and attacked with acid for complaining about abuse or for falling in love with the wrong person or for rejecting a forced marriage among other reasons.

Then there's the gender selection inequality in these countries. Simply put, male babies are treasured whereas female babies are often seen as something to be endured until another male is born and that's even if the female child is kept. Sex-selective abortion and abandonment of female children is rife in these countries.

According to UNICEF, 12 million girls are born in India every year. Out of which 25 per cent do not survive the 5th year (Bhardwaj,2010). The child sex ratio captures a part of this discrimination against females. The net deficit of females was 9.9 million in 1951, which has now widened to 37 million in 2011

http://garph.co.uk/IJARMSS/Dec2012/18.pdf

Just a little Samba · 10-02-2015 05:04AM

Trigger Happy wrote: »

India is a big country with lots of people. Rapes happen all over the world...but media focus is on India at the moment.
If every tourist who got robbed in Ireland had international attention we would have no tourist industry.

In India Dalit women (Dalits are those "outside" the caste system, or untouchables) are raped regularly by upper caste people and most don't even bother reporting it as the police don't give a crap.

Dhobi (lowest level of Dalit system, not just untouchable, but unseeable) women are regularly raped by other Dalits and when they go to the police the other Dalits surround the police station demand the police don't investigate saying Dhobi women aren't worth the resources and offer to pay them off instead of the man going to jail.

Recently in Tamil-Nadu a 14 year old Dhobi girl was raped by a Nai (higher class of Dalit) man and the police told them they would go to his family for compensation, when they refused to accept money and the police arrested the man his family attcaked the girls father and he was beaten and threatened if he didn't drop the case and then when the man was finally prosecuted he only got 2 months in jail.

Rape is a massive problem in India and the judicial system doesn't take it seriously at all, especially when Dhobi women are raped by other Dalits or when a Dalit woman is raped by an upper caste man.

The caste system is still pretty much controls how society works in india and on top of that sexual equality isn't a concept Indian culture even pretends to entertain, women are not seen as being important, at all.

Just a little Samba · 10-02-2015 05:10AM

Precious flower wrote: »

God that video is scary. How can the chief of police and the leader of a religious order stand their and spout that? How can anyone think that that is okay? Does Islam really promote such behaviour? The men who raped that woman seemed to know it was wrong and said the community and Allah would disown them for it but yet the people the girl interviewed in top positions suggested otherwise. That whole "if you make the man's eyes wander he can basically do want he wants to you" is so disturbing. Clothing never comes into it (though all those women were fully covered, though in the policeman's view not enough) that even if you were wearing a burka, you would still get raped. I would be really terrified in a place like that.

It has nothing to do with Islam, funnily enough. The problem with rape culture in the Indian Subcontinent nations lies squarely at the millenia old Hindu caste system. Napal, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Bhutan and Sri Lanka all have the same problems for the same reaons, upper caste members are seen as not breaking the law when they rape lower caste and Dalit women by society.

The same is true of honour killings. It's not a Muslim problem, it's not a Bangladeshi or Pakistani problem, it's a caste system problem endemic in all "Indian" cultures and nations (as in cultures from the Indian subcontinent).

porsche959 · 10-02-2015 05:31AM

Just a little Samba wrote: »

In India Dalit women (Dalits are those "outside" the caste system, or untouchables) are raped regularly by upper caste people and most don't even bother reporting it as the police don't give a crap.

Dhobi (lowest level of Dalit system, not just untouchable, but unseeable) women are regularly raped by other Dalits and when they go to the police the other Dalits surround the police station demand the police don't investigate saying Dhobi women aren't worth the resources and offer to pay them off instead of the man going to jail.

Recently in Tamil-Nadu a 14 year old Dhobi girl was raped by a Nai (higher class of Dalit) man and the police told them they would go to his family for compensation, when they refused to accept money and the police arrested the man his family attcaked the girls father and he was beaten and threatened if he didn't drop the case and then when the man was finally prosecuted he only got 2 months in jail.

Rape is a massive problem in India and the judicial system doesn't take it seriously at all, especially when Dhobi women are raped by other Dalits or when a Dalit woman is raped by an upper caste man.

The caste system is still pretty much controls how society works in india and on top of that sexual equality isn't a concept Indian culture even pretends to entertain, women are not seen as being important, at all.

Can we please stop with the nuance and librul political correctness, we all know it is because the brown Muslims don't appreciate our values and should be deported.

Teyla Emmagan · 10-02-2015 08:53AM

There is nothing in that post about Islam. Don't let it get on your way of your plans to expel the 'brown' people though (what about the white Muslims, can they stay?).

Japanese Student Raped In India Over a Number of Weeks

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