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Paddy Barnes- MBE

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  • #152
    efb
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    Dublin Red Devil wrote: »
    I have no problem with anything English. But I do have a problem with an ungrateful little bastard from county Antrim who was quite happy to use the IABA resources, wear the green jersey and stand under the tri-colour.

    Then turns around and accepts Member of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire.

    Britain can have the ****ing traitor

    http://sportsnewsireland.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/paddy-barnes1.jpg

    IABA like Rugby and Hockey are an All island organisation. You don't get a choice


  • #153
    efb
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    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    Oh dear. So much facepalming on this thread!

    It is perfectly possible to be Republican/Nationalist/whatever and still enjoy the English (and Welsh) Premier League. However it is cringeworthy when you then start making assumptions about the cultures and national identity of local supporters from those clubs, whilst painting yourself as some sort of "superfan".

    As for the thread topic, Paddy Barnes. I don't particularly care much for the honours system in the UK, especially since it doesn't quite resemble a merit system the higher up you go, more a collection of distant royal relatives and wealthy sycophants. For what it is worth there are plenty of other countries I'd decline an honour from before Britain.

    However Paddy Barnes has accepted one and while surprised, I don't begrudge or think any higher/lesser of him for doing so. Perhaps he reckoned that by being dignified and respectful in accepting the award, it might be a small token of reconciliation between the two traditions up North - people he'd work and fight (in the sporting sense) with everyday. If so, fair play and no complaints here. It's not as if he has to surrender his Irish passport on receiving an MBE.

    It's not the English and Welsh Premier League- just English- The Welsh Premier League is separate.


  • #154
    Jimoslimos
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    efb wrote: »
    It's not the English and Welsh Premier League- just English- The Welsh Premier League is separate.
    T'was a little allusion to the fact that Swansea (and in the past Cardiff City) play in the EPL. Wrexham are also in the Football League I believe.


  • #155
    Dirty Dingus McGee
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    Terrontress wrote: »
    It was Danny Boy which he said that about.

    You're just as likely to find a loyalist unionist feel the same about it.

    I honestly thought it was God save the queen I heard on the video for some reason.


  • #156
    efb
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    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    T'was a little allusion to the fact that Swansea (and in the past Cardiff City) play in the EPL. Wrexham are also in the Football League I believe.

    They play in the English League under the English FA. Not the Welsh League under the FAW


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  • #157
    efb
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Personally I'd prefer Jerusalem was played in the unlikely event I won a gold medal.

    I wouldn't want a hymn. Is like Amhrain Na bhFainn but accept the practically of Ireland's Call for an All Ireland team


  • #158
    [Deleted User]
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    Dublin Red Devil wrote: »
    No, No team represents the country they are based in, in the Champions league. They represents themselves and their club.
    United don't stand before the game an sing god save the queen to to Georges cross. Why? Because De Gea, Rafael, Rojo, Blind, Herrara, Mata, Valencia, Di Maria, Falcao and Van Persie are not English.


    They're the English representatives. Much like Celtic are the Scottish ones. You even see it when the draws are made. Celtic (SCO) Bayern Munich (GER). Each nation gets an allocation of representatives. This is just fact.

    In the FA Cup final all teams line out for GSTQ. Why? Because it's the English Cup final.


  • #159
    [Deleted User]
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    Dublin Red Devil wrote: »
    Consistency isn't usually a characteristic possessed by traitors. Barnes is a whore who doesn't know the meaning of loyalty and respect.

    Do you support an Irish soccer team over your Manchester one?


  • #160
    SEPT 23 1989
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    efb wrote: »
    I wouldn't want a hymn. Is like Amhrain Na bhFainn but accept the practically of Ireland's Call for an All Ireland team

    its a hell of more uplifting than the dirge that is Amhrain Na bhFainn


  • #161
    Sheep Lover
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    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    its a hell of more uplifting than the dirge that is Amhrain Na bhFainn

    Irelands Call is an abomination of an "anthem", cringeworthy stuff at best


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  • #162
    Tobyglen
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    Enoch Slimy Banknote wrote: »
    Disgusting little bastard IMO.. Unforgivable in my books.

    Enjoy your Pimms with 'Sir' Bob Geldof ya little tosser.
    If this was from anyone other than a moderator they would be banned, regardless if it's in jest which it doesn't show any inclination of being.


  • #163
    Guy:Incognito
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    Tobyglen wrote: »
    If this was from anyone other than a moderator they would be banned, regardless if it's in jest which it doesn't show any inclination of being.

    It's a glimpse in to some people's sad opinions/beliefs and best ignored tbh


  • #164
    Berserker
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Hard to know. I think that certain people on this forum want a Nationalist/Republican only Irish team at the Olympics, which is very sad to see in 2015.
    Omackeral wrote: »
    In the FA Cup final all teams line out for GSTQ. Why? Because it's the English Cup final.

    Of course, the answer is in the title, i.e. the FA (Football Association) Cup final. It is the most English of all sporting events.


  • #165
    Down9194
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    Sheep Lover wrote: »
    Irelands Call is an abomination of an "anthem", cringeworthy stuff at best
    Should be banned, another sop to the an element who don't consider themselves Irish, but you know what they are


  • #166
    mickopaddyson
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    Enoch Slimy Banknote wrote: »
    Disgusting little bastard IMO.. Unforgivable in my books.

    Enjoy your Pimms with 'Sir' Bob Geldof ya little tosser.

    Martin O'Neill the manager of your international soccer team was given an OBE in 2003.

    A true Irish nationalist would accept the OBE as if a united Ireland was to happen in the future then the English would be Irelands nearest neighbour and so you have to keep friendly with them, plus it makes the Irish nationalist look like the better person, if he was to refuse it then he would have made him and his fellow Irish look like bigots, even if you dislike the brits you should bite your lip and shake their hands so to speak.
    I can't stand the Brits myself but I don't let it be known.


  • #167
    tomwaterford
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    mickopaddyson wrote: »
    Martin O'Neill the manager of your international soccer team was given an OBE in 2003.

    A true Irish nationalist would accept the OBE as if a united Ireland was to happen in the future then the English would be Irelands nearest neighbour and so you have to keep friendly with them, plus it makes the Irish nationalist look like the better person, if he was to refuse it then he would have made him and his fellow Irish look like bigots, even if you dislike the brits you should bite your lip and shake their hands so to speak.

    You can't honestly believe a nationalist should accept an order of the British empire
    How is that nationalist even a tiny bit...let the chap have his OBE...it'll be a cold day in hell before I ever see that as a mark of Irish nationalism


  • #168
    mickopaddyson
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    diomed wrote: »
    In before "the 26 counties".

    True Irish nationalists don't recognise your country as being "Ireland", if the fellas of the old IRA were alive today they would also call it the 26 counties


  • #169
    mickopaddyson
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    tomwaterford wrote: »
    You can't honestly believe a nationalist should accept an order of the British empire
    How is that nationalist even a tiny bit...let the chap have his OBE...it'll be a cold day in hell before I ever see that as a mark of Irish nationalism

    The only way the foreign occupation of ulster is removed is if we keep on the good side of our english neighbours, they aren't the easiest to get on with as they are an ignorant people but every little helps on the long road to freedom. The Irish have a long history of being traitors to the english crown, one minute they were being given Earl titles and the next they were organising rebellions, e.g. in medieval times.


  • #170
    youreadthat
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    mickopaddyson wrote: »
    The only way the foreign occupation of ulster is removed is if we keep on the good side of our english neighbours, they aren't the easiest to get on with as they are an ignorant people but every little helps on the long road to freedom. The Irish have a long history of being traitors to the english crown, one minute they were being given Earl titles and the next they were organising rebellions, e.g. in medieval times.

    Was knuckle dragging on your new years resolution list? If so 15 mins is poor form.


  • #171
    tomwaterford
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    mickopaddyson wrote: »
    The only way the foreign occupation of ulster is removed is if we keep on the good side of our english neighbours, they aren't the easiest to get on with as they are an ignorant people but every little helps on the long road to freedom. The Irish have a long history of being traitors to the english crown, one minute they were being given Earl titles and the next they were organising rebellions, e.g. in medieval times.

    I will never personally support that type of backward thinking...the day Ireland ever have to depend on England/lick up to them is pathetic....it's 2015 we are more than equal to them now


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  • #172
    bobbysands81
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    "Bridges being mended", "progression", "a sign of maturity" etc... Utter tripe.

    Paddy is now the member of an Empire responsible for millions of needless deaths in the name of the progression of said Empire. Why anyone would want a part of that I've no idea.

    Good to see Paddy getting international recognition, just a pity it's from a sectarian, anti-democratic, outdated incestuous institution such as the British monarchy.

    Our country will have moved on and we'll have matured as a Nation when we can actually criticise something as ridiculously inane as a monarchy.


  • #173
    SharpshooterTom
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    mickopaddyson wrote: »
    Martin O'Neill the manager of your international soccer team was given an OBE in 2003.

    A true Irish nationalist would accept the OBE as if a united Ireland was to happen in the future then the English would be Irelands nearest neighbour and so you have to keep friendly with them, plus it makes the Irish nationalist look like the better person, if he was to refuse it then he would have made him and his fellow Irish look like bigots, even if you dislike the brits you should bite your lip and shake their hands so to speak.
    I can't stand the Brits myself but I don't let it be known.

    Oh Jesus how nice of you. I don't understand how anyone can choose to like or dislike anyone based on their nationality. I grew up in both England and NI, lived in both nationalist and unionist dominated areas, went to an integrated school etc. At the end of the day people are just people, although this will sound hippyish, there is a lot more that unites the human race than divides us if we take away all the patriotic guff.

    You may hate aspects of British history, that's understandable, but there are 65 million people living in that country, many of them know very little about British/Irish history, millions of which hold no malice towards Ireland, and I honestly don't know how someone can say they can dislike a whole group of people based on their nationality, as if they're all one and the same.


  • #174
    mickopaddyson
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    youreadthat wrote: »
    Was knuckle dragging on your new years resolution list? If so 15 mins is poor form.

    "knuckle dragging"
    no isn't that an english past time?


  • #175
    mickopaddyson
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    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    Oh Jesus how nice of you. I don't understand how anyone can choose to like or dislike anyone based on their nationality. I grew up in both England and NI, lived in both nationalist and unionist dominated areas, went to an integrated school etc. At the end of the day people are just people, although this will sound hippyish, there is a lot more that unites the human race than divides us if we take away all the patriotic guff.

    You may hate aspects of British history, that's understandable, but there are 65 million people living in that country, many of them know very little about British/Irish history, millions of which hold no malice towards Ireland, and I honestly don't know how someone can say they can dislike a whole group of people based on their nationality, as if they're all one and the same.

    aye 65 million in the UK, the only people I trust in that population are the 738,033 Irish Catholics in Northern Ireland


  • #176
    Fred Swanson
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #177
    MRnotlob606
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    If he was a terrier he'd be good for lamping. That's all I'm saying.


  • #178
    bobbysands81
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    mickopaddyson wrote: »
    aye 65 million in the UK, the only people I trust in that population are the 738,033 Irish Catholics in Northern Ireland

    Are you for real???


  • #179
    mickopaddyson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 ✭mickopaddyson


    bobbysands81 wrote: »
    Are you for real???

    aye why would I trust British unionists? they all think we Catholics should move to the south


  • #180
    Richard
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    Dublin Red Devil wrote: »
    The way most of you go on. You would rather Ireland abandon all nationality, Fly the union jack, sing God save the Queen?

    Why not? You obviously don't care about Ireland, Being Irish means nothing to you. Why not just be British right?

    Why not be both?


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  • #181
    Richard
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    onlyme! wrote: »
    Someone should explain to young barnes that he can't be sticking his tongue up the queens arsehole and call himself irish, at the same time! ..........or can he?

    I imagine if he tries to do the former, the vigilance of royal protection officers will mean..... no he can't.


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