Paddy Barnes- MBE

Fratton Fred · 31-12-2014 08:24PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Man United might well be an English club, but its common knowledge to the whole of England that Man United fans have some of the most anti-English fans you can get, many of which are not loyal to England.

He plays on the left, he plays on the riiiiiiiight, that boy Ronaldo makes England look sh1te!

Man United/Liverpool fans are not well liked within parts of England often accused for their lack of patriotism, well known to clubs like Chelsea, West Ham etc.

This just gets funnier and funnier.

SharpshooterTom · 31-12-2014 08:29PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

This just gets funnier and funnier.

Its true and you know it!

I'm not denying they're not an English club, or even agreeing with Dublin Red Devil here but it is well known that Man United and Liverpool fans are not the most ardent supporters of the national team.

Dublin Red Devil · 31-12-2014 08:33PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Man United might well be an English club, but its common knowledge to the whole of England that Man United fans have some of the most anti-English fans you can get, many of which are not loyal to England.

He plays on the left, he plays on the riiiiiiiight, that boy Ronaldo makes England look sh1te!

Its true. Many fans of big UK based clubs. don't care about international football. They are there because the love Man United, not because the club represents the city of Manchester.

Man United fans see The England national team as waste of time taking away some of their players for pointless friendlies, risking injury to key players for important club games.

Many United fans would rather Rooney didn't play for England at all.

calanus · 31-12-2014 08:35PM

Sometimes I skip from the first to the last page to see what the craic is... especially when the title of the thread is so straightforward and clear cut. And then I see this ^

Aongus Von Bismarck · 31-12-2014 08:49PM

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Many United fans would rather Rooney didn't play for England at all.

Yeah, the plastic republicans who love talking about traitors and west brits and 800 years over a pint of Carling watching the footie on a Saturday.

Shiraz 4.99 · 31-12-2014 08:55PM

calanus wrote: »

Sometimes I skip from the first to the last page to see what the craic is... especially when the title of the thread is so straightforward and clear cut. And then I see this ^

Yep, there should be a "guess the op" prize on page 10 on all these ditch hurling threads.

KungPao · 31-12-2014 08:58PM

Off with his head!

KungPao · 31-12-2014 09:01PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

Yeah, the plastic republicans who love talking about traitors and west brits and 800 years over a pint of Carling watching the footie on a Saturday.

In fairness, I don't think I've ever seen an Irish man drink Carling. Nor have I heard one call football "footie".

onlyme! · 31-12-2014 09:06PM

Someone should explain to young barnes that he can't be sticking his tongue up the queens arsehole and call himself irish, at the same time! ..........or can he?

Axel Lamp · 31-12-2014 09:07PM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Little Irelander reminds me of this

I love that picture,makes me smile every time.

Reminds me of a pic from the love ulster riots of a lad in a villa jersey throwing a rock, with the tag line:

"**** da Brits, but Aston Villa are deadly"

pmasterson95 · 31-12-2014 09:09PM

So this is an anti Premiership thread.....okey dokey

Berserker · 31-12-2014 09:12PM

Fran1985 wrote: »

Recognition for an Irish man from a country that hated us as mych as we hated them.

I feel to need to share a few words on this sentiment in sports terms. As an England football fan, I would like to inform you that whilst it is pretty clear that RoIs fans strongly dislike us, we do not share that sentiment. I, like pretty much every other England fan I know, would support the RoI as a second team. A football or sporting rivalry is a two way thing. You are not our rivals and you never will be.

As 2015 is nearly upon us, I have to say that I cannot wait for our little kick around this year. I am looking forward to all the media hype surrounding the game and seeing Lansdowne Road/Aviva Stadium, or whatever you call it, full for a football game.

As for Paddy Barnes, congrats and fair play to the man. I am not one for the honours system myself but he obviously feels a connection to it, as a Belfast boy. Also, he would have been asked whether or not he was willing to accept the MBE many months ago, in private consultation.

onlyme! · 31-12-2014 09:13PM

KungPao wrote: »

In fairness, I don't think I've ever seen an Irish man drink Carling. Nor have I heard one call football "footie".

sounds like a plastic englishman

31-12-2014 09:23PM

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Not really. They are a professional sport team. Not representative of the country in which they are based.

Actually yes really. Really really. When they win the league (I'll say they and not you) they represent England in the Champions League don't they? Also, dunno if you actually go to games or just watch down the local but the fans chant ''We Are The Champions, Champions Of England'' when they win the league. You were caught out lovely saying 'for me' (another thing you always hear in English football) he's not Irish anymore with your Dublin Red Devil moniker showing you up.

31-12-2014 09:28PM

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Again. get it through you thick head. Man United= Professional Sports franchise, Not representative of it's nation of base location.

Nothing to do with Religion, or Politics

The irony. It's called Manchester United for a reason. The clun represents the people of Manchester first and foremost. They're Mancs, not you and your pals down the boozer. 95% of clubs are named after where they're from. When they get successful, people like you latch on. You basically say Barnes will never be a champ and so isn't really any good to you. Says it all really. Despise 'fans' like that, buffoons.

Berserker · 31-12-2014 09:28PM

onlyme! wrote: »

sounds like a plastic englishman

If he drinks a pint of Guinness, he's a proper Irish man?

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Man United/Liverpool fans are not well liked within parts of England often accused for their lack of patriotism to the national team, well known to clubs like Chelsea, West Ham etc.

Man United/Liverpool fans are not well liked because of where the come from and also because they are remarkably successful, as football clubs. As for patriotism, the most patriotic football fans I know come from Walton Breck Road in Liverpool, i.e. Liverpool and Everton fans. I have been to hundreds of games in England and I can honestly say that I have never ever heard any chants or comments passed regarding patriotism. I have seen plenty of flags from all over the world, including Irish flags at the Bridge and the Boleyn ground. Those flags would easily out numbers England flags or UJs.

Jimoslimos · 31-12-2014 09:31PM

Oh dear. So much facepalming on this thread!

It is perfectly possible to be Republican/Nationalist/whatever and still enjoy the English (and Welsh) Premier League. However it is cringeworthy when you then start making assumptions about the cultures and national identity of local supporters from those clubs, whilst painting yourself as some sort of "superfan".

As for the thread topic, Paddy Barnes. I don't particularly care much for the honours system in the UK, especially since it doesn't quite resemble a merit system the higher up you go, more a collection of distant royal relatives and wealthy sycophants. For what it is worth there are plenty of other countries I'd decline an honour from before Britain.

However Paddy Barnes has accepted one and while surprised, I don't begrudge or think any higher/lesser of him for doing so. Perhaps he reckoned that by being dignified and respectful in accepting the award, it might be a small token of reconciliation between the two traditions up North - people he'd work and fight (in the sporting sense) with everyday. If so, fair play and no complaints here. It's not as if he has to surrender his Irish passport on receiving an MBE.

Lenin Skynard · 31-12-2014 09:50PM

Streetwalker wrote: »

Member of the most excellent order of the British empire (MBE)

Lol. These feckers are still stuck in the dark ages.

I remember chuckling at an interview with Rudolph Giuliani the former Mayor of New York when he was awarded a knighthood. His response in the interview was "They told me that I was being made into a British knight and I thought they were gonna give me a horse!, they didn't but I took the award anyways".

Was funny as feck in the thick New York accent. Never seen him attach "Sir" to the front of his name, he probably forgot about the award as soon as he finished laughing at its silliness.

Jimoslimos · 31-12-2014 09:53PM

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

I remember chuckling at an interview with Rudolph Giuliani the former Mayor of New York when he was awarded a knighthood. His response in the interview was "They told me that I was being made into a British knight and I thought they were gonna give me a horse!, they didn't but I took the award anyways".

Was funny as feck in the thick New York accent. Never seen him attach "Sir" to the front of his name, he probably forgot about the award as soon as he finished laughing at its silliness.

It's an honourary knighthood, he can use the letters (KBE) but not the title "Sir".

tomwaterford · 31-12-2014 09:53PM

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Oh dear. So much facepalming on this thread!

It is perfectly possible to be Republican/Nationalist/whatever and still enjoy the English (and Welsh) Premier League. However it is cringeworthy when you then start making assumptions about the cultures and national identity of local supporters from those clubs, whilst painting yourself as some sort of "superfan".

As for the thread topic, Paddy Barnes. I don't particularly care much for the honours system in the UK, especially since it doesn't quite resemble a merit system the higher up you go, more a collection of distant royal relatives and wealthy sycophants. For what it is worth there are plenty of other countries I'd decline an honour from before Britain.

However Paddy Barnes has accepted one and while surprised, I don't begrudge or think any higher/lesser of him for doing so. Perhaps he reckoned that by being dignified and respectful in accepting the award, it might be a small token of reconciliation between the two traditions up North - people he'd work and fight (in the sporting sense) with everyday. If so, fair play and no complaints here. It's not as if he has to surrender his Irish passport on receiving an MBE.

A great many Irish nationalists/people have turned them down over the years and it was no more said of it

But to say someone can be republican and still accept titles of any empire/royalty based regime is jumping through impossible hoops of logic IMO

Guy:Incognito · 31-12-2014 09:55PM

Some proper bitter fools full of hate about. I'm sure the hatred will keep them warm in their coffins. It might even get them there a bit quicker....

Fred Swanson · 31-12-2014 09:56PM

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tomwaterford · 31-12-2014 10:12PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

Is Paddy a republican?

Since he accepted this I think we're on safe ground to say he's not

I've no bother with him accepting award btw....
Each to there own and all that!!

just I cannot abide this bs pushed by many so called republicans who support Sinn Fein who try and twist everything into a stupid victory (as someone who support them longterm...and by and large can stand by support of the ira)

There is no possible way this moves any community relations even 1%

Dirty Dingus McGee · 31-12-2014 10:14PM

Is it not a little hypocritical of him considering he declared "thats not my anthem" when God save the queen was played at his commonwealth games medal presentation ceremony.

I couldn't give a sh1te what he does but he could at least have a degree of consistency.

Fratton Fred · 31-12-2014 10:28PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Is it not a little hypocritical of him considering he declared "thats not my anthem" when God save the queen was played at his commonwealth games medal presentation ceremony.

I couldn't give a sh1te what he does but he could at least have a degree of consistency.

Personally I'd prefer Jerusalem was played in the unlikely event I won a gold medal.

Dublin Red Devil · 31-12-2014 10:40PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Actually yes really. Really really. When they win the league (I'll say they and not you) they represent England in the Champions League don't they? Also, dunno if you actually go to games or just watch down the local but the fans chant ''We Are The Champions, Champions Of England'' when they win the league. You were caught out lovely saying 'for me' (another thing you always hear in English football) he's not Irish anymore with your Dublin Red Devil moniker showing you up.

No, No team represents the country they are based in, in the Champions league. They represents themselves and their club.

United don't stand before the game an sing god save the queen to to Georges cross. Why? Because De Gea, Rafael, Rojo, Blind, Herrara, Mata, Valencia, Di Maria, Falcao and Van Persie are not English.

How can you say these men represent the country of England when they are just playing for a privetly owned professional sports organization that pays them their salary. They are representing themselves and the American billionaire who signs their paychecks,

Dublin Red Devil · 31-12-2014 11:06PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Personally I'd prefer Jerusalem was played in the unlikely event I won a gold medal.

Consistency isn't usually a characteristic possessed by traitors. Barnes is a whore who doesn't know the meaning of loyalty and respect.

Terrontress · 31-12-2014 11:11PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Is it not a little hypocritical of him considering he declared "thats not my anthem" when God save the queen was played at his commonwealth games medal presentation ceremony.

I couldn't give a sh1te what he does but he could at least have a degree of consistency.

It was Danny Boy which he said that about.

You're just as likely to find a loyalist unionist feel the same about it.

Terrontress · 31-12-2014 11:15PM

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

No, No team represents the country they are based in, in the Champions league. They represents themselves and their club.
United don't stand before the game an sing god save the queen to to Georges cross. Why? Because De Gea, Rafael, Rojo, Blind, Herrara, Mata, Valencia, Di Maria, Falcao and Van Persie are not English.

How can you say these men represent the country of England when they are just playing for a privetly owned professional sports organization that pays them their salary. They are representing themselves and the American billionaire who signs their paychecks,

What about before the FA Cup Final?

curioser · 31-12-2014 11:16PM

Enoch Slimy Banknote wrote: »

Disgusting little bastard IMO.. Unforgivable in my books.

Enjoy your Pimms with 'Sir' Bob Geldof ya little tosser.

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Paddy Barnes- MBE

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