Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

Mr Alan wrote: »

Maybe if Rodgers bought a player as good as Suarez in the same window i'd be a bit more forgiving.

I agree the Carroll transfer was awful btw. Absolutely shocking. Just saying it doesn't anger me like it does some people. Likely because we did some really great business over the same period like Suarez & Henderson.

Whereas with Rodgers, it's been universally poor except for Sturridge & maybe Coutinho, despite the mega money spent.

To qualify, £35m should get guaranteed world class, yet look at the money spent on Balotelli, Lallana, Allen, Sakho, Borini, Markovic, Lovern...about £150m down the pretty much down the toilet when it comes to getting top 4 this year.

I can forgive 1, 2, 3 bad signings. I've always said a manager with a 50:50 rate is doing well. Rodgers is just nowhere near that. And that isn't my perceived dislike of him coming to that conclusion, even his fans agree!

Too early to judge any of the 3 bolded though with Lovren it really doesn't look promising. Lallana you feel will come good though we've overpaid for him for sure. Markovic looks like he's finding his feet but talk of him "justifying his fee" is as premature as is talk of his fee being money down the toilet.

The acquisitions under Kenny were poor, similarly the policy under Rodgers has been lamentable. Arguing which is more sh!te is... well, you're on a hiding to nothing. Neither manager's transfer activities come out smelling of roses. This mooted review of transfer policy needs to take a cold hard look at the club's failings when it comes to acquiring players under FSG and any new 'policy' should start with the fundamental question 'Will X improve the first team?' If no, then scratch out that prospect's name pronto.

citytillidie wrote: »

Oh just read that cluster of a match thread for Sunday's game and have to laugh at those arsenal fans calling the ref a homer when Flamini was still on the pitch in the 2nd half

He also missed a number of Arsenal players kick the ball away so if he did not card them he should not have given Borini a card.

Was a good game pity we could not take our chances and put away such a poor team

Also stay classy Arsenal fans chanting to Skrtel to get up there is f*ck all wrong with you, when hevwas getting treatment

In fairness to them, they were probably surprised that Giroud had hit his intended target.

Hidalgo wrote: »

Lambert for a couple of million to offer a plan B (which sadly) became plan A for a handful of games v Andy Carroll for a then £35m. Closer to £45m now since the last tv deal.

Factoring for new tv deals. Craziest thing I've seen on this thread since the breakdown of Alans post count over the last 36 months.

Is today's topic Allen v Shelvey??

Neither are good enough. Shelvey should have been sold and the Allen fee should have gone towards a 'proper good' DM. One with a physical presence.

Mr Alan wrote: »

Without getting all Tony Soprano, make the club & player an offer that they won't be able to turn down.

We've spent so much on players who contribute nothing, no objections to overspending on players who will contribute plenty.

Well this it is with all transfers.

There is talk about paying €6m to get Origi back 6 months early from his loan deal.

A totally crazy place to be.

Now if the club has that €6m to use why wasn't it used to offer Sanchez an extra £30k a week to change his mind about living in London. More money in his bank account or living in London give him an offer he would have found very hard to turn down.

Gits_bone wrote: »

Shelvey was the exact type of player that is needed throughout the season, like a Fletcher or Garcia.

WHen you're 2-0 up (in the ideal world) you put on Shelvey and close the game out. Good enough quality for 30 mins, won't win any games but would be useful to have. Not good enough to start though.

Til he loses the head gets shown a straight red and all of a sudden it's 11v10 and under pressure.

Shelvey was decent but I don't see any change in him since he's gone to swansea then when he was with us. At any given time he looks like he could see red.

Mr Alan wrote: »

Maybe if Rodgers bought a player as good as Suarez in the same window i'd be a bit more forgiving.

I agree the Carroll transfer was awful btw. Absolutely shocking. Just saying it doesn't anger me like it does some people. Likely because we did some really great business over the same period like Suarez & Henderson.

Whereas with Rodgers, it's been universally poor except for Sturridge & maybe Coutinho, despite the mega money spent.

To qualify, £35m should get guaranteed world class, yet look at the money spent on Balotelli, Lallana, Allen, Sakho, Borini, Markovic, Lovern...about £150m down the pretty much down the toilet when it comes to getting top 4 this year.

I can forgive 1, 2, 3 bad signings. I've always said a manager with a 50:50 rate is doing well. Rodgers is just nowhere near that. And that isn't my perceived dislike of him coming to that conclusion, even his fans agree!

Well yeah I agree our transfers for the most part have bee underwhelming but I think that is a club problem that has been going on for years. We just dont go for the big guns most of the time and its frustrating as f*ck when you see united go out and buy anyone they want - I know they have far more money and all that but I think its a different strategy too.

Henderson was a lost sheep the first couple of seasons he was here. I really like him and he's proved me wrong but I still think he needs to step up another level - he seemed to do this for a short period when we were missing Gerrard last season.

I think its far too early to judge Markovic and I think Lallana will prove a good buy for us. Really looking forward to seeing him play with Sturridge. I also think Emre Can has been decent in the little we have seen of him. So there are some good players there IMO but its the world class players we are missing and I think we could have done with 1 or 2 less players to pay for the big guns.