Bandit stories

slave1 · 18-12-2014 06:48PM #1

Folks, the feedback thread is closed so given we're all allowed to create threads I though it may be an idea to leave all these bandit stories in one place and let other threads stay on topic as banditry seems to be meandered into at will and it's not a subject that thrills me.
At least if there was a home for it hopefully other threads could be more entertaining to read.

Maybe not?

Mods, feel free to amend as necessary...

leonards · 18-12-2014 06:53PM

slave1 wrote: »

Folks, the feedback thread is closed so given we're all allowed to create threads I though it may be an idea to leave all these bandit stories in one place and let other threads stay on topic as banditry seems to be meandered into at will and it's not a subject that thrills me.
At least if there was a home for it hopefully other threads could be more entertaining to read.

Maybe not?
Mods, feel free to amend as necessary...

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0081633/ the time bandits

slave1 · 18-12-2014 06:57PM

Ha ha, good man, slow play and bandits all in you, the perfect cure!

FixdePitchmark · 18-12-2014 07:09PM

Happy Christmas - 5 shots in the bag for you.

This should be fun.

mafc · 18-12-2014 07:42PM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Happy Christmas - 5 shots in the bag for you.

This should be fun.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Turpin

freethearmy · 18-12-2014 07:47PM

theirs 1 good bandit on his way to newforest gc in the new year.....Watch out :eek::eek::eek:

FixdePitchmark · 18-12-2014 10:06PM

Was down the Atlantic Coast Challenge - a lad said to me that he was off 6 at one stage and said it was too hard (about 6 pints in us each, we were only starting) , so he decided to go out to 9 or so. At the time I had just gone to 6 and was breaking me balls to get 36 points or more or less.

Have taken him up on his advice and got to 6.9 and rising. One day I hope to get to 12 again

:D

cgh · 19-12-2014 10:50AM

I think every golf club has its own fair share of bandits.

charlieIRL · 19-12-2014 11:02AM

Under no circumstances are there to be players names or clubs mentioned in this thread

Axel Lamp · 19-12-2014 11:02AM

The Pierce Purcell.

alxmorgan · 19-12-2014 11:05AM

Mate playing a guy in the semi of the matchplay singles in a club.
Guy off 17 tells my mate (off 5) that his aim is to get out to 18 as he was playing in the Golf Digest final soon after.

the neck !!!

stitcheddepin · 19-12-2014 11:09AM

what I don't understand is how a bandit can turn it on when they want. so they jack 20 cards nd get two shots back not concentrating or whatever tactic. then captains day or matchplay finals come round nd they shoot the lights.

if a pro practised sh=te then they would play sh+te in majors. bandits are a species onto themselves and should be studied to the level of a BBC Attenborough show because I am amazed by them.

cgh · 19-12-2014 11:10AM

the Pierce Purcell is not for bandits. its a really genuine fair comp, with upstanding members of golf clubs.

no thats rubbish,

its got more bandits than you could shake a bandit stick at.

cgh · 19-12-2014 11:13AM

stitcheddepin wrote: »

what I don't understand is how a bandit can turn it on when they want. so they jack 20 cards nd get two shots back not concentrating or whatever tactic. then captains day or matchplay finals come round nd they shoot the lights.
.

you assume they are not concentrating.
on the contrary, they aim for bunkers, pick spots out to hit for, not just on fairways, but on greens too. they might look like they are poor, but in reality they are hitting the ball were they want,

that is from the biggest bandit I ever seen. My dad. played off 17 for years.

alxmorgan · 19-12-2014 11:26AM

cgh wrote: »

you assume they are not concentrating.
on the contrary, they aim for bunkers, pick spots out to hit for, not just on fairways, but on greens too. they might look like they are poor, but in reality they are hitting the ball were they want,

that is from the biggest bandit I ever seen. My dad. played off 17 for years.

So your Dad is a bandit ? How does he justify himself ?

shabalala · 19-12-2014 11:28AM

A newly formed club.

A 23hcap member that won a major, 4 years ago was off 8, packed it in, came back and handed in 3 cards for 23hcap.

First rd of major- in the last 6 holes had a ten and two nines. 64 nett.

2nd rd- last 6 holes had two eigths and a nine. 68 nett.

won by 4 and is a really popular winner coz he opened up the bar the night of the presentation.

this is really going on, its so so sad.

alxmorgan · 19-12-2014 11:31AM

shabalala wrote: »

A newly formed club.

A 23hcap member that won a major, 4 years ago was off 8, packed it in, came back and handed in 3 cards for 23hcap.

First rd of major- in the last 6 holes had a ten and two nines. 64 nett.

2nd rd- last 6 holes had two eigths and a nine. 68 nett.

won by 4 and is a really popular winner coz he opened up the bar the night of the presentation.

this is really going on, its so so sad.

How the fook did the club let this happen ?

Miley Byrne · 19-12-2014 11:45AM

shabalala wrote: »

A newly formed club.

A 23hcap member that won a major, 4 years ago was off 8, packed it in, came back and handed in 3 cards for 23hcap.

First rd of major- in the last 6 holes had a ten and two nines. 64 nett.

2nd rd- last 6 holes had two eigths and a nine. 68 nett.

won by 4 and is a really popular winner coz he opened up the bar the night of the presentation.

this is really going on, its so so sad.

I don't get the bit in bold above. Do you mean out of the last 6 holes he had a 10 on one hole and 2 holes where he had a 9 on each of them and still finished with a net 64. Even if they were par 5s and the par of the course is 70 he would played the other 15 holes in 4 over.

shabalala · 19-12-2014 12:00PM

denisoc16 wrote: »

I don't get the bit in bold above. Do you mean out of the last 6 holes he had a 10 on one hole and 2 holes where he had a 9 on each of them and still finished with a net 64. Even if they were par 5s and the par of the course is 70 he would played the other 15 holes in 4 over.

Correct......... the club didn't ask any questions about his previous hcap. Just taken in as new golfer. Hes off 21 now.

newport2 · 19-12-2014 12:07PM

Guy I know started playing this year. Handed in 3 genuine cards in July and was given 24. Struggled a bit to begin but kept practicing away and now things have started to click. He went out last week in his club and came in with 49 points!

Now in my opinion his handicap is now too high, but he isn't a bandit in that he has always played to his best ability and returned honest cards. But he won't get cut until qualifying comes in again I guess and will probably be regarded as a bandit at his club by then. Is there any measures to address this situation?

First Up · 19-12-2014 12:08PM

Clubs do have the option of cutting handicaps on observation or for suspected "handicap building". One club rather famously incurred a lengthy (but eventually successful) court case over it.

newport2 · 19-12-2014 12:09PM

First Up wrote: »

Clubs do have the option of cutting handicaps on observation or for suspected "handicap building". One club rather famously incurred a lengthy (but eventually successful) court case over it.

Do they do it for unqualifying rounds?

First Up · 19-12-2014 12:12PM

newport2 wrote: »

Do they do it for unqualifying rounds?

They can

DiegoWorst · 19-12-2014 12:14PM

newport2 wrote: »

Guy I know started playing this year. Handed in 3 genuine cards in July and was given 24. Struggled a bit to begin but kept practicing away and now things have started to click. He went out last week in his club and came in with 49 points!

Now in my opinion his handicap is now too high, but he isn't a bandit in that he has always played to his best ability and returned honest cards. But he won't get cut until qualifying comes in again I guess and will probably be regarded as a bandit at his club by then. Is there any measures to address this situation?

if your friend's hcp is cut by a number of strokes in the summer months he won't be classed as a bandit. If he doesn't get cut, and comes back the following winter shooting 49pts again.... well tell him to start wearing a mask.

the maximum handicap for a new player should be 18 (some would say 14)
If he is a genuine 24 handicap, he'll work his way up.

mike12 · 19-12-2014 12:15PM

Played a guy in the European match play he told me he used to be off 5 but gave up for a year and came back and got a 12 handicap so i was giving him a shot and where he would have been giving me 6 a year eariler.

Think a GUI number should be for life so you can't move clubs without you previous records going with you.

mickelson · 19-12-2014 12:26PM

shabalala wrote: »

A newly formed club.

A 23hcap member that won a major, 4 years ago was off 8, packed it in, came back and handed in 3 cards for 23hcap.

First rd of major- in the last 6 holes had a ten and two nines. 64 nett.

2nd rd- last 6 holes had two eigths and a nine. 68 nett.

won by 4 and is a really popular winner coz he opened up the bar the night of the presentation.

this is really going on, its so so sad.

i can't believe that he can be proud of himself. no achievement in his win. its like stealing

newport2 · 19-12-2014 12:35PM

mickelson wrote: »

i can't believe that he can be proud of himself. no achievement in his win. its like stealing

Some people appear to be oblivious to this. Have watched award speeches given by people turning in 38-42 points week-in week-out throughout the year and ending the year on the same handicap they started. Either totally brazen or unaware they have done anything wrong.

Rikand · 19-12-2014 12:41PM

shabalala wrote: »

Correct......... the club didn't ask any questions about his previous hcap. Just taken in as new golfer. Hes off 21 now.

How can he only be off 21 ?

You lose 0.4 per stroke under standard scratch at that handicap. He must/should have been butchered!

dan_ep82 · 19-12-2014 12:47PM

DiegoWorst wrote: »

the maximum handicap for a new player should be 18 (some would say 14)
If he is a genuine 24 handicap, he'll work his way up.

He'll probably give up before then, I know I would find it hard not to

I'm playing about a year but have been a member of two clubs. The first I got my HC of 23 when I was presenting a lot of the hosel (ahem) and during winter and never got to play a comp due to the days I was able to play.

Moved club during the summer and got a bit more consistent and got a hc of 20 and played 12 opens this year and now playing of 21.1

The closest I got to a cut was making the buffer after bottling it on the last few holes and we won a team event (5hcp,8hcp,17hcp,20hcp) where the 5 and 8hcp played birdie golf on the back nine and 1st place got DQ'd.

Then my younger brother (junior) got 28 as standard and he's playing off 19 within 7months of sporadic play and plays with me on a regular basis off the comp tee's and is only ever a few shots short of me.

What's keeping him going is this year the improvement and next year hopefully the same, if he was given 18 I guarantee he wouldn't play as much.

There will always be those who abuse it but all you will do is make it harder for a lot of new golfers, bandits aren't restricted to 18+ HCP

cairny · 19-12-2014 12:47PM

Rikand wrote: »

How can he only be off 21 ?

You lose 0.4 per stroke under standard scratch at that handicap. He must/should have been butchered!

Even more than that, the cuts would be on Stableford card so the 10s and 9s would go back to trebles.

Russman · 19-12-2014 12:51PM

newport2 wrote: »

Some people appear to be oblivious to this. Have watched award speeches given by people turning in 38-42 points week-in week-out throughout the year and ending the year on the same handicap they started. Either totally brazen or unaware they have done anything wrong.

I wouldn't think that's a particularly unusual trend though, no ? Apart from the week-in week-out part. If someone is consistently turning in 38-42pts they're surely getting cut at a quicker rate than they can get 0.1s back ? or the CSS is whacky !

If they're not doing it consistently and do it maybe twice a year, I'd say its quite normal to finish where you started or thereabouts. Most golfers play poorly relative to their handicap almost all the time, if they have one or two good rounds where they lose a shot or two, they'll almost certainly have 20 or 30 bad rounds where they get 0.1 without "trying to" get one.

To be honest I think there's a huge element of Chinese whisper or "bar talk" about claims of banditry - not your post above, but in general. Golfers like to talk and exaggerate stuff. We never seem to have a bad day, its always someone else is a bandit.
IMHO singles comps tend to look after themselves, someone consistently winning 4 balls or team events is where to look for real bandits.

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