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North Korea Wins!!!

  • 17-12-2014 10:05pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭


    Sony will now not release its new film 'The interview' about assassination of Jim Jong Un.

    Sony fears more hacking and a backlash.

    Pity looked like a good film!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    Did it?

    A film about murdering a serving leader of a country with c.25million people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    That's it. Christmas is cancelled!:mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    What idiots idea was it to make the film anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    myshirt wrote: »
    Did it?

    A film about murdering a serving leader of a country with c.25million people.

    Yes it did. Watch the trailer. Looked hilarious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    What? I'm gutted now, it looked pretty good :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    Was Jim Kims brother? Or is Jim the father of Kim, the wrong un?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    North Korea also win 2015 FIFFA World Cup


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Miserable nation.

    If they had oil and weren't in China's back yard we'd have probably seen some gallant attempt at regime change by the West long ago.

    As it is, it suits China and the West to leave it as a hellish, zombified no-man's land regardless of the abject misery this causes any human being unlucky enough to be born there.

    Geopolitics at it's most cynical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    That's a very dangerous precedent.

    Is this the first time a company has been almost wiped out by hackers? This should be interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭barry181091


    I don't think they said they weren't going to release it, just not to theatres.

    As The Verge said, their only option is to put it on the 'net. Buckets of good will for a free release too. That wouldn't pay the bills of course.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭AboutaWeekAgo


    Netflix might end up buying the rights, would be a win win for both parties.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Yellowblackbird


    On the plus side it's going ahead as a broadway musical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,139 ✭✭✭flanzer


    "America will NEVER give in to the demands of terrorists"

    .......... unless of course they're a group of North Korean nerdlingers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I'm still not convinced that this isn't all just a marketing ploy.

    And I'm not convinced that North Korea are responsible for the Sony hack either. Seems a lot more like an inside job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    DeadHand wrote: »
    Miserable nation.

    If they had oil and weren't in China's back yard we'd have probably seen some gallant attempt at regime change by the West long ago.

    As it is, it suits China and the West to leave it as a hellish, zombified no-man's land regardless of the abject misery this causes any human being unlucky enough to be born there.

    Geopolitics at it's most cynical.

    Are you suggesting NATO and China should invade? Can't see that ending well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Things could be worse.

    Had they made a movie and planned a second parodying Islam, for instance, some of those involved could well be murdered and the least we'd see is wide scale unrest on the streets of Europe and the Middle East.

    Yet, no publicly demonstrated anger by the Muslim community in Europe over the 141 mostly infant Muslims murdered in Pakistan anywhere near the fury that greeted the depiction of the prophet in a cartoon... Funny that...

    Some things are safer to make a joke of than others.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Are you suggesting NATO and China should invade? Can't see that ending well.

    I'm not suggesting anything just pointing out the hypocrisy of the fact that some nations (Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria) are deemed more worthy of "liberation" by the West than others (North Korea, Zimbabwe, Saudi Arabia) depending on economic, strategic and political considerations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    I'm still not convinced that this isn't all just a marketing ploy.
    Up to the point they released salaries, SSNs & employee medical history I'd have agreed with you, but it's clearly malicious now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Who did the hacking? China or N.Korea?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    DeadHand wrote: »
    I'm not suggesting anything just pointing out the hypocrisy of the fact that some nations (Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria) are deemed more worthy of "liberation" by the West than others (North Korea, Zimbabwe, Saudi Arabia) depending on economic, strategic and political considerations.

    Picking your battles is good strategy, not hypocrisy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    hmmm wrote: »
    Up to the point they released salaries, SSNs & employee medical history I'd have agreed with you, but it's clearly malicious now.

    Well I mean an inside job would be equally malicious.

    The amount of data that was compromised is huge. It would have taken weeks or months to do it remotely and the chances of it going undetected would very very low.


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    I don't understand. North Korean hackers are threatening to bomb the states? Aren't they not even allowed to leave NK?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    Pity, wouldn't have minded going to see it, though I don't think it would have been a masterpiece or anything. Hopefully someone will leak a copy onto the interwebz.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    Theater chains said earlier today that they would not show the film given the threats made against them.

    Sony were left with no choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Throw it up online for free. Hell throw it up on torrent sites, and watch the film be seen by far more people than it would have been otherwise. North Korea can hardly hack the entire Internet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    Are there really sleeper cells of North Korean agents in the West ready to strike on the command of Kim? I know they'd have a few sympathisers here & there in the nuttier fringes of the far left but have never heard anything to suggest they'd have an actual terrorist capability.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Custardpi wrote: »
    Are there really sleeper cells of North Korean agents in the West ready to strike on the command of Kim? I know they'd have a few sympathisers here & there in the nuttier fringes of the far left but have never heard anything to suggest they'd have an actual terrorist capability.

    I doubt it. Could be they have some serious dirt on the top Sony CEO s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,382 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    myshirt wrote: »
    Did it?

    A film about murdering a serving leader of a country with c.25million people.

    Serving?!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    DeadHand wrote: »
    Things could be worse.

    Had they made a movie and planned a second parodying Islam, for instance, some of those involved could well be murdered and the least we'd see is wide scale unrest on the streets of Europe and the Middle East.

    Yet, no publicly demonstrated anger by the Muslim community in Europe over the 141 mostly infant Muslims murdered in Pakistan anywhere near the fury that greeted the depiction of the prophet in a cartoon... Funny that...

    Some things are safer to make a joke of than others.

    I think there's a thread in bargain alerts that's missing any references to Islam. Better get over there quick.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    Never mind them, we just better keep Russia happy or then we will all have problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,047 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Netflix might end up buying the rights, would be a win win for both parties.
    and then they hack netflix


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    I'm still not convinced that this isn't all just a marketing ploy.

    And I'm not convinced that North Korea are responsible for the Sony hack either. Seems a lot more like an inside job.

    This sums up my suspicions about the whole thing nicely.

    They're not going to release it to cinemas, but from what I hear will release it for download and on DVD.
    This whole episode about the hacks and the embarassing emails has made sure that this film is the most talked about film this year, when from the previews I would have filed it under "Another Team America one, probably not all that funny anyway".

    If I was cynically inclined, I would propose that the whole North Korea hack was actually done by Sony themselves, as a publicity stunt for the film.
    If so, it's sheere brilliance and certainly has worked. Kudos to whoever thought that one up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Staplor


    Now they can make a film about a movie that nobody could see because of ......... terrorism. Queue many shots of the American Flag and Freedom Fries. 'Merica *uck yeah


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,083 ✭✭✭OU812


    If they were clever & wanted to strike back, they'd cut their losses & release it as a free download. Would be viewed by far more people then


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭NoMore MrNiceGuy


    Well I mean an inside job would be equally malicious.

    The amount of data that was compromised is huge. It would have taken weeks or months to do it remotely and the chances of it going undetected would very very low.

    Firstly that's not true. Computers are fast. Text data is small.

    Secondly clearly embarrassing stuff was released.

    Thirdly what kind of publicity stunt would endup in promoting a movie which then isn't released?

    Theres paranoia and theres paranoia.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,806 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Sony will now not release its new film 'The interview' about assassination of Jim Jong Un.

    Sony fears more hacking and a backlash.

    Pity looked like a good film!

    The documentary version will be much better & more satisfying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭NoMore MrNiceGuy


    Shenshen wrote: »
    This sums up my suspicions about the whole thing nicely.

    They're not going to release it to cinemas, but from what I hear will release it for download and on DVD.
    This whole episode about the hacks and the embarassing emails has made sure that this film is the most talked about film this year, when from the previews I would have filed it under "Another Team America one, probably not all that funny anyway".

    If I was cynically inclined, I would propose that the whole North Korea hack was actually done by Sony themselves, as a publicity stunt for the film.
    If so, it's sheere brilliance and certainly has worked. Kudos to whoever thought that one up.

    Ack don't be utterly stupid. Marketing departments around the world are not going to start releasing private embarrassing emails of their executives and everybody's SSNs for publicity to sell a product which isn't then going to sell in its major market.

    Why do people think North korea wouldn't do this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Ack don't be utterly stupid. Marketing departments around the world are not going to start releasing private embarrassing emails of their executives and everybody's SSNs for publicity to sell a product which isn't then going to sell in its major market.

    Why do people think North korea wouldn't do this?

    Because it's way too subtle for North Korea.

    North Korea doesn't try and embarass people it doesn't like, it would try and destroy them. Releasing a few emails about untalented actors doesn't even get close.

    I'm not saying they didn't do it, nor that I'm convinced it was Sony's marketing department, but I would have doubts either way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,022 ✭✭✭conorhal


    myshirt wrote: »
    Did it?

    A film about murdering a serving leader of a country with c.25million people.

    I might agree with you if the serving leader in question wasn't a mass murdering sociopath. Your comment is a bit like complaining loudly that Mighty Mouse would regularly beat up Hitler in american cartoons during the war.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    Netflix might end up buying the rights, would be a win win for both parties.

    I can only imagine the trouble that would cause for them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭NoMore MrNiceGuy


    Shenshen wrote: »
    Because it's way too subtle for North Korea.

    North Korea doesn't try and embarass people it doesn't like, it would try and destroy them. Releasing a few emails about untalented actors doesn't even get close.

    I'm not saying they didn't do it, nor that I'm convinced it was Sony's marketing department, but I would have doubts either way.

    North Korea is not "subtle".

    Releasing internal documents is illegal and a firable offence. Releasing SSN numbers is also a huge issue. No marketing dept is going to suggest that internal emails be released, many critical of talent, along with scripts and personal information of executives and others to promote a movie. That's quite frankly crazy talk.

    A dictatorship getting involved in cyberwar is not fantastical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    myshirt wrote: »
    Did it?

    A film about murdering a serving leader of a country with c.25million people.

    Would you have had the same objections to "The Great Dictator", then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    North Korea is not "subtle".

    Releasing internal documents is illegal and a firable offence. Releasing SSN numbers is also a huge issue. No marketing dept is going to suggest that internal emails be released, many critical of talent, along with scripts and personal information of executives and others to promote a movie. That's quite frankly crazy talk.

    A dictatorship getting involved in cyberwar is not fantastical.

    That's what I mean, it's too suble a move. Nevermind the illegality, when's the last time North Korea cared about that? But they could have done far more and serious damage, and didn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    cloud493 wrote: »
    What? I'm gutted now, it looked pretty good :(

    thought it looked crap, a blessing in disguise maybe

    thank you north korea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,784 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Sony should do what U2 did with their new album, and forcibly put it on every device going!
    Now theres a way to rile everyone up and get free publicity!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    I'm amazed (maybe not) that Sony hadn't tightened up their server security.
    If get hacked once is bad but to be hacked again is irresponsible. The hustlers deserves to go down the pan for that. At the very least their cyber security chiefs head should roll. (there is no inferrance to Muslim extremists in this post :))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The reason it was pulled had nothing to do with the hacks .the film was pulled because there were threats of unleashing attacks worse than 9\11 on cinema chains whom showed it, they even went as far to threatening residents who lived near cinemas to move away for there own good,


    Odd part America is now beem threatened with state sponsored terrorism that wont sit well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭Xios


    There a leaked clip I saw last night, the film looks amazing.
    Kim Jong Un is flying away in a helicopter. In super slow motion a tank shell hits the tank, explodes and you slowly see kim's clothes start to burn as his face skin wobbles in the blast wave before fire envelopes his face and what can only be brain matter flies out of frame. All this is set to a rather pleasant acoustic version of Katy Perry's Firework.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    Gatling wrote: »
    The reason it was pulled had nothing to do with the hacks .the film was pulled because there were threats of unleashing attacks worse than 9\11 on cinema chains whom showed it, they even went as far to threatening residents who lived near cinemas to move away for there own good,


    Odd part America is now beem threatened with state sponsored terrorism that wont sit well

    But are those threats realistic? Do the NKs really have the capability to carry out terrorist acts abroad? Maybe in Asia, but in the US?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,083 ✭✭✭OU812


    Imagine if there was no real movie, that they just filmed a trailer & that this is part of a mocumentary movie they're making about the events...


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