Is it time for a new National Anthem?

Beano · 17-12-2014 08:25PM

DellyBelly wrote: »

What's the face about. You got it wrong and I corrected you. Take it on the chin mate!

quit while you are behind

Mesrine65 · 17-12-2014 08:27PM

Grabs coat & runs...

e_e · 17-12-2014 08:31PM

I propose this one for the inevitable zombie apocalypse:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0SHa6FuCeI

Buona Fortuna · 17-12-2014 08:37PM

corner of hells wrote: »

What other nationality half are you and do swell with pride when you hear its anthem ?

And what if they're played together (well one after the other) do you noticably inflate?

lazybones32 · 17-12-2014 08:37PM

CrabRevolution wrote: »

For someone who starts a whole thread about our anthem, I'd have thought you'd know anything about it.

Amhrán na bhFiann is the name of the song which consists of 3 verses and a chorus. The chorus, and only the chorus is our national anthem. Can you point out where in the chorus (and hence in our national anthem) Saxons are mentioned?

Even if you were to push it and say "its the same song, the sentiment is the same". The Anthem is officially the Irish version, which still has no mentions of Saxons. The line people like yourself love to quote (which isnt even part of the Anthem) is in the 3rd verse near the end: "Out yonder waits the Saxon foe". That same line in the Irish version is "Is an bíobha i raon na bpiléar agaibh". Which as far as I can see translates to "and the enemy is within range of your bullets".

There's always one...

The Soldiers Song is what the Anthem is drawn from and it was only shortened because it was too long for official use. It was played in full for the first few years and then edited. The Soldiers Song was penned in English and then translated. It is an English language Song. Just because the Anthem version is officially known as it's Irish translation doesn't make it so. ABBA songs translated into Irish don't become originally Irish...they're just translations. Does any of this compute?

If you didn't understand the gist of the thread, I could have clarified for you but I think you are more interested in nit-picking...instead of answering whether you think it should be changed or not.

(I'm not interested in your thoughts about it now, so don't feel obliged to provide them...)

corner of hells · 17-12-2014 08:46PM

lazybones32 wrote: »

There's always one...

The Soldiers Song is what the Anthem is drawn from and it was only shortened because it was too long for official use. It was played in full for the first few years and then edited. The Soldiers Song was penned in English and then translated. It is an English language Song. Just because the Anthem version is officially known as it's Irish translation doesn't make it so. ABBA songs translated into Irish don't become originally Irish...they're just translations. Does any of this compute?

If you didn't understand the gist of the thread, I could have clarified for you but I think you are more interested in nit-picking...instead of answering whether you think it should be changed or not.

(I'm not interested in your thoughts about it now, so don't feel obliged to provide them...)

I think "someone" wants to write a new anthem and the above could be the chorus.

c_man · 17-12-2014 08:47PM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I think the national anthem should be replaced by Taylor Swift's "Shake It Off".

Then we should revise it on a biennial basis henceforth. Keep it current.

The "haters" and the "fakers" as sang in that by Ms. Swift are no doubt references to the Brits, and the whole song itself is in fact an allegory for the treatment of the Irish throughout the centuries. But indeed we are now past that, and just "shake it off" so to speak.

I want a grant to take this to Ph.D. level.

lazybones32 · 17-12-2014 08:47PM

who the fug wrote: »

So where did we get Galloglas from, and before that them Scandinavian raping and a pillaging lads

And don' t start of DeDannan oppressing poor firbolgs

Huh? Foreign fighters...oh wait...I don't think the Song is about loading your rifles and shooting bullets at Vikings from 900 years ago. Maybe I'm wrong though...it does have the ring of an 'Irish' solution to it.

JaseBelleVie · 17-12-2014 08:47PM

corner of hells wrote: »

What other nationality half are you and do swell with pride when you hear its anthem ?

Canadian. And no, not so much. I've never lived in Canada, never felt any connection to Canada, rarely see my Canadian relatives, can't speak a word of French (I realise not all Canadian people speak French, but you know what I mean), only set foot on Canadian soil twice in my life, etc.

Buona Fortuna wrote: »

And what if they're played together (well one after the other) do you noticably inflate?

Oh very much so, yes. :P

lazybones32 · 17-12-2014 08:48PM

corner of hells wrote: »

I think "someone" wants to write a new anthem and the above could be the chorus.

Has "someone" a name or haven't you the balls to call him/her by name?

corner of hells · 17-12-2014 08:50PM

JaseHeath wrote: »

Canadian. And no, not so much. I've never lived in Canada, never felt any connection to Canada, rarely see my Canadian relatives, can't speak a word of French (I realise not all Canadian people speak French, but you know what I mean), only set foot on Canadian soil twice in my life, etc.

Oh very much so, yes. :P

Canada has a stompin' anthem , my friend is Canadian , we make her sing it when shes drunk.

corner of hells · 17-12-2014 08:52PM

lazybones32 wrote: »

Has "someone" a name or haven't you the balls to call him/her by name?

Jesus wept , "someones" cranky tonight.

Awkward Badger · 17-12-2014 08:59PM

JaseHeath wrote: »

I'm only half-Irish, but I still swell with pride when I hear Amhrán na bhFiann being played. No way should it be changed.

And as for this Ireland's Call bollocks. :mad:

What has a rugby anthem got to do with anything ?

spurious · 17-12-2014 08:59PM

The tune is grand. The lyrics could do with an update/change. It doesn't matter though, cos no-one understands them.

Awkward Badger · 17-12-2014 09:03PM

spurious wrote: »

The tune is grand. The lyrics could do with an update/change. It doesn't matter though, cos no-one understands them.

Ah the tune could change too. Given the culture and tradition of music in Ireland its a shame our anthem is so bland.

CrabRevolution · 17-12-2014 09:26PM

lazybones32 wrote: »

There's always one...

The Soldiers Song is what the Anthem is drawn from and it was only shortened because it was too long for official use. It was played in full for the first few years and then edited. The Soldiers Song was penned in English and then translated. It is an English language Song. Just because the Anthem version is officially known as it's Irish translation doesn't make it so. ABBA songs translated into Irish don't become originally Irish...they're just translations. Does any of this compute?

If you didn't understand the gist of the thread, I could have clarified for you but I think you are more interested in nit-picking...instead of answering whether you think it should be changed or not.

(I'm not interested in your thoughts about it now, so don't feel obliged to provide them...)

I never said the song was originally in Irish. I simply said that it is just about always always performed in Irish. This effectively makes the Irish version the anthem.

As far as our country is concerned, the chorus and only the chorus is the anthem, Irish or English: "The chorus was formally adopted as the National Anthem in 1926."
http://www.taoiseach.gov.ie/eng/Historical_Information/The_National_Anthem/

The verses are not and never have been our Anthem.

Not sure why this post has a serious looking title....

DoYouEvenLift · 17-12-2014 10:53PM

mackerski wrote: »

The current one was written in English. The Irish version is a translation.

Did not know that!

bodice ripper · 17-12-2014 11:01PM

http://youtu.be/y5G8AJf4Xzw

Is there really any other choice?

(Can't seem to embed)

MarkAnthony · 17-12-2014 11:03PM

I think we should adopt Liechtenstein's

MarkAnthony · 17-12-2014 11:06PM

The Mustard wrote: »

I like this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A71wdsTqkfM

We'd need a Nuclear submarine for that.

Duckworth_Luas · 17-12-2014 11:08PM

bodice ripper wrote: »

http://youtu.be/y5G8AJf4Xzw

Is there really any other choice?

(Can't seem to embed)

Hey! That ripped off Jackie Charlton and the Square Headed Punks 1990 hit single Olé Olé Olé.

Nodin · 17-12-2014 11:09PM

MarkAnthony wrote: »

We'd need a Nuclear submarine for that.

And a few tanks certainly.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 17-12-2014 11:11PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

This should be our national anthem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPqT6_TkU6Q

I disagree.

"Did you ever get a ride on a tractor" is a much better song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XXDHjKWd-M

Awkward Badger · 17-12-2014 11:16PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

I disagree.

"Did you ever get a ride on a tractor" is a much better song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XXDHjKWd-M

I like this version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y61KHgvnVr4

Realt Dearg Sec · 17-12-2014 11:30PM

MarkAnthony wrote: »

We'd need a Nuclear submarine for that.

And the chick in the freeze frame.

cloud493 · 17-12-2014 11:45PM

I love god save the queen personally. Never heard the irish anthem now I think of it.

Beano · 18-12-2014 12:36PM

cloud493 wrote: »

I love god save the queen personally. Never heard the irish anthem now I think of it.

exactly. who doesnt love crushing those rebellious scots.

Mike Guide 69 · 18-12-2014 01:48PM

JaseHeath wrote: »

I'm only half-Irish, but I still swell with pride when I hear Amhrán na bhFiann being played. No way should it be changed.

And as for this Ireland's Call bollocks. :mad:

Agree, National Anthem should'nt been changed, good shout on Ireland's Call, dont like it, especially when your watching the rugby matches and other national anthems from other countries been played and the sense of pride when fans sing , especially the scots and welsh, and here we are when our National Anthem finishes then guess what lads, strike up for Irelands Call, joke.....

Pat Mustard · 21-12-2014 11:43PM

Molester Stallone II wrote: »

John Cage's 4'33" for piano, is the perfect national anthem for us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQa4DL17Aug

08-04-2016 01:29AM

This would make a great anthem:

Up the Republic, they raise their battle cry
Pearse and McDermott will pray for you on high
Eager and ready, for love of you they die
Proud march the Soldiers of the Rearguard

Legion of the rearguard, answering Ireland's call
Hark, the march and tramp is heard from Cork to Donegal
Wolfe Tone and Emmett guide you, though your task be hard
DeValera leads you, Soldiers of the Legion of the Rearguard

Is it time for a new National Anthem?

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