Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

MD1990 · 15-12-2014 05:43PM

As Francie said January will reveal alot. If Rodgers doesn't get much money u would have to think they he will be gone in the summer unless there is a huge improvement.

Harry Palmr · 15-12-2014 05:44PM

What's daft is that Rodgers refused to work under a DoF but accepted working within a transfer committee. The former would have been much easier to deal with. Alas, regardless of who wanted who, we certainly seem to have a manager who is picking and choosing to make political points.

And if that's the case he'll be gone.

JohnDaniels · 15-12-2014 05:46PM

Haha, it's mental what is going on when you list it all like that. All we need to do now is appoint Gerrard as player manager to top the madness off nicely!!

Turtyturd · 15-12-2014 05:46PM

Is it okay to say that now without being called a conspiracy theorist?

MR NINE · 15-12-2014 05:51PM

The most telling thing from that interview is that Pearce said Henry and Werner are still completely behind Rodgers. Now I will admit he could be lying for some agenda or some such but it flies in the face of the likes of Lucky Lloyd stating as fact thst rodgers wont be here much longer. He could be here a while yet. Just coz you want him sacked doesnt mean hes gone. The matchgoing fans are still behind him and the board are seemingly still behind him.

For me personally ill reserve judgement on rodgers and his future prospects until some time in february. The jan window is huge and will tell us a lot more about the transfer situation. If sign a gk and money is made available and the board will seemingly be backing rodgers. If no signings are made in jan and more ****e is leaked about the committee and so on then i will be fearing the worst for rodgers.

Turtyturd · 15-12-2014 05:53PM

That article also seems very much like I'm going to defend my friend....only stops short of saying 'The Rodgers' invented sliced bread.

mosstin · 15-12-2014 05:54PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Rodgers fighting with Gerrard.

Gerrard fighting with Lovren.

Rodgers camp leaking the transfers aren't his.

Players getting blacklisted.

Not picking inform players.

Publicly dropping a player for a player who really isn't good.

Crazy game tactics, formations & substitutions.

Things are coming to head and hopefully one way or another it will be dealt with before the January transfer window opens.

Point 1 - source?
Point 2 - source?
Point 3 .....
Thing is, it's all speculation isn't it? People who want Rodgers out will accept any rumours coming from within, or more likely, not from within the club at all.
Rodgers is definitely struggling but people trying to paint him as a nutty professor are letting their agenda get in the way of what's happening. Either way, none of us have a clue what's happening behind the scenes.

Agent Coulson · 15-12-2014 05:56PM

mosstin wrote: »

Point 1 - source?
Point 2 - source?
Point 3 .....
Thing is, it's all speculation isn't it? People who want Rodgers out will accept any rumours coming from within, or more likely, not from within the club at all.
Rodgers is definitely struggling but people trying to paint him as a nutty professor are letting their agenda get in the way of what's happening. Either way, none of us have a clue what's happening behind the scenes.

Point 1 link was posted this morning.
Point 2 link was posted this morning.
Rodgers address both today saying things happen in dressing rooms.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2873665/Liverpool-dressing-room-issues-Manchester-United-defeat-Brendan-Rodgers-insists-players-working.html

Point 3 ??? who else is leaking to the press that they aren't his signings?? hardly the committee or FSG.

rob316 · 15-12-2014 05:58PM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=318844.0

James Pearce on the transfer committee.

I listened to it, finally a bit of sense. This committee is the cause of the problems not solely Rodgers. Rodgers sits on it but from what Pearce says he has an equal say like everyone else. 5 people sit on it and 2 of them are money men not football men.

While everyone picks on trivial stuff like Borini the real issue is Rodgers wasn't allowed sign all the players he wanted. Bony and Vorm would have been totally gettable.

Only £30m net spent, its a joke.

15-12-2014 05:58PM

MR NINE wrote: »

The most telling thing from that interview is that Pearce said Henry and Werner are still completely behind Rodgers. Now I will admit he could be lying for some agenda or some such but it flies in the face of the likes of Lucky Lloyd stating as fact thst rodgers wont be here much longer..............

To be fair he's entitled to his opinion but that's all it is.

mosstin · 15-12-2014 06:01PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Point 1 link was posted this morning.
Point 2 link was posted this morning.
Rodgers address both today saying things happen in dressing rooms.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2873665/Liverpool-dressing-room-issues-Manchester-United-defeat-Brendan-Rodgers-insists-players-working.html

Point 3 ??? who else is leaking to the press that they aren't his signings?? hardly the committee or FSG.

Wasn't an issue last season when things were going well so it just becomes a such to beat Rodgers and/or the committee with when things aren't going so well.
My point is that people are happy to fling mud at Rodgers right now, knowing that some of it will stick, regardless of whether it's truth or fiction. He deserves better than that.

MR NINE · 15-12-2014 06:02PM

Augeo wrote: »

To be fair he's entitled to his opinion but that's all it is.

Of course he is, and he has reasonable arguments to support his opinions, but its the stating things as fact thing that bothers. Its not a cold hard fact that rodgers is halfway out the door, and its not a cold hard fact that rodgers cant turn it around.

Agent Coulson · 15-12-2014 06:05PM

I have asked this question over the last few days to those who stand behind Rodgers. I will ask again.

Why hasn't one of the most highly regarded young managers in the world not been able to set up a defence that won't stop leaking goals after being in the job for 2.5 seasons and £75m spend on goalkeeper and defenders.

He talks the talk but can't/won't coach a defence in any system that will stop them leaking goals.

Why ?

Agent Coulson · 15-12-2014 06:07PM

mosstin wrote: »

Wasn't an issue last season when things were going well so it just becomes a such to beat Rodgers and/or the committee with when things aren't going so well.
My point is that people are happy to fling mud at Rodgers right now, knowing that some of it will stick, regardless of whether it's truth or fiction. He deserves better than that.

Plenty including myself loved what was going on last season but still kept pointing out that we were leaking goals for fun and our strikers were papering over cracks.

We all want stability at the club and I would love to see Rodgers work it out but there has been so many things going wrong on the pitch that a manager/coach should be able to fix or look like he is at least trying to fix. None of which I can see in Rodgers.

Benzino · 15-12-2014 06:11PM

I've no problem with the Gerrard and Lovren fighting tbh (if it's true), it might wake Lovren the fcuk up. I mean he has walked into this club and become our worst defender, that's some achievement.

Turtyturd · 15-12-2014 06:13PM

rob316 wrote: »

I listened to it, finally a bit of sense. This committee is the cause of the problems not solely Rodgers. Rodgers sits on it but from what Pearce says he has an equal say like everyone else. 5 people sit on it and 2 of them are money men not football men.

While everyone picks on trivial stuff like Borini the real issue is Rodgers wasn't allowed sign all the players he wanted. Bony and Vorm would have been totally gettable.

Only £30m net spent, its a joke.

To be fair you only think it's a bit of sense because it supports your viewpoint. Players he has obviously wanted like Allen and Lovren haven't been up to it so it's a good thing he hasn't been given free reign. The real issue isn't him not getting all the players he wanted, it's acting a dick about the ones he didn't get his way on.

If his ego is that important to him he should have walked away when the committee was formed, the job is bigger than him.

Harry Palmr · 15-12-2014 06:23PM

LFC TV FA Youth Cup Bradford

#LFC U18s team v Bradford in the FA Youth Cup: Firth, Polgar, Whelan, Brewitt, Rossiter, Phillips, Canos, Chirivella, Sinclair, Kent, Ojo.

Confirmed #LFC U18s substitutes for the FA Youth Cup game against Bradford tonight: Wheeler, Wilson, Ejaria, Travis, Lewis.

In all the excitement no one has noticed that Liverpool U19s have been drawn against Benfica in the UEFA Youth League

Bandana boy · 15-12-2014 06:24PM

All this talk of the transfer committe hampering Rodgers
I would buy it as a reason we are off the pace to challenge for the league ,not as a reason we are in 10th place
The reality is even without Suarez and Sturridge and the slow start of the summer signings the squad is better than 1.3PPG
The squad is underperforming and has been for 10 weeks, this responibility for this lies fully with Brendan and if we had not spent a cent in the summer I would expect our squad to be higher up the table and to have done better than one jammy win in the Champions league.
If Brendan is leaking this stuff to the papers then he needs to stop F&*%ing about and solve the problems he can solve ,which is setting up the team and picking the best players to go out and do a job for him.

5live · 15-12-2014 06:34PM

Gits_bone wrote: »

That's a naiive assumption.

Different suggestions.

SO when that poster previously named out 10 players to improve the team...you thought he wanted all 10?

Ok so.

Which do you want? Or specifically, which combination of 2 of the 3 do you want? And why don't you now want the individual you wanted earlier?

Shanee. · 15-12-2014 06:36PM

Listened to Bruce Grobbelaar speaking last night on some website and he had a very valid point. We conceded 52 goals last year and in any other season that wouldnt have been good enough for top 4 even. But we scored so many goals so it was okay we were winning but winning 5-3 and 3-2. This season we have lost Suarez goals and Sturridge's also and havent fixed the defence in any way. Mignolet is a shambles and a new keeper is needed ASAP. Sakho also needs to start playing and Lovren should never ever get a game in a Liverpool jersey - he is awful.

rant over

MD1990 · 15-12-2014 06:36PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

LFC TV FA Youth Cup Bradford

#LFC U18s team v Bradford in the FA Youth Cup: Firth, Polgar, Whelan, Brewitt, Rossiter, Phillips, Canos, Chirivella, Sinclair, Kent, Ojo.

Confirmed #LFC U18s substitutes for the FA Youth Cup game against Bradford tonight: Wheeler, Wilson, Ejaria, Travis, Lewis.

In all the excitement no one has noticed that Liverpool U19s have been drawn against Benfica in the UEFA Youth League

We leave the youngsters to you. You can get very excited about them:P.

mav79 · 15-12-2014 06:37PM

I find it hard to believe that Rodgers identified Sanchez, Costa, Kono, Salah and Mkhitaryan and the transfer committee ****ed it all up. Yet we signed Allen, Borini and were linked with Vorm, Ashley Williams, Ryan Bertrand and Michu. Was it the transfer committee who were looking at these players? To me it seems like FSG are about to fire the transfer committee and Rodgers is distancing himself from them and blaming them for any poor players we have.

klose · 15-12-2014 06:39PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I have asked this question over the last few days to those who stand behind Rodgers. I will ask again.

Why hasn't one of the most highly regarded young managers in the world not been able to set up a defence that won't stop leaking goals after being in the job for 2.5 seasons and £75m spend on goalkeeper and defenders.

He talks the talk but can't/won't coach a defence in any system that will stop them leaking goals.

Why ?

This is the biggest problem, we concede like 1.3 goals a game meaning we have to score 2 to get a win. The defence is embarrassing, lovren has made 6/7 errors apparently already just in the league which is the guts of every second game we concede a goal from just his fcuk ups.

klose · 15-12-2014 06:40PM

Ojo and rossiter wont be involved in the bournemouth so i guess

Augmerson · 15-12-2014 06:41PM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=318844.0

James Pearce on the transfer committee.

Don't believe it tbh. Rodgers covering his arse.

Gits_bone · 15-12-2014 06:41PM

Really mad that we are where we are now. Who would have thought it 6 months ago.

Agent Coulson · 15-12-2014 06:46PM

Taking players off the blacklist and those who are fit this is the team I want to start on Wednesday.

Mignolet

--Johnson

Toure

Sakho

Enrique--

Lucas

Henderson

Can

Sterling

Balotelli

Borini

.

Bench. Jones, Moreno, Coutinho, Gerrard, Skrtel & Lambert.

All out to win the no sh1tting about with a mix of youth and experience.

Kirby · 15-12-2014 06:46PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I have asked this question over the last few days to those who stand behind Rodgers. I will ask again.

Why hasn't one of the most highly regarded young managers in the world not been able to set up a defence that won't stop leaking goals after being in the job for 2.5 seasons and £75m spend on goalkeeper and defenders.

He talks the talk but can't/won't coach a defence in any system that will stop them leaking goals.

Why ?

Because conceding goals and defending isn't down to 3 or 4 players in a team. You don't "coach a defence" in the way you mean it. You coach an entire team on how to defend when you don't have the ball.

Yes, there are things you can work on with your back four like holding a line and which centrehalf closes down and which drops and so on, but defending is largely down to the whole team and the system employed. You could pick the finest back 4 in history but if they aren't helped by their forwards, midfielders and widemen, they will concede just like anybody else.

The problem isn't the personnel and the defenders themselves, its the manager. He's picking the team, the formation, the players and their positions and giving them their instructions.

slingerz · 15-12-2014 06:49PM

Jones will def start against Bournemouth

Surely is Sakho is fit then he will get a run out.

Will be interesting to see if we have 3 at the back again though

Balotelli will probably get a start also along with Can.

micks · 15-12-2014 06:55PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I have asked this question over the last few days to those who stand behind Rodgers. I will ask again.

Why hasn't one of the most highly regarded young managers in the world not been able to set up a defence that won't stop leaking goals after being in the job for 2.5 seasons and £75m spend on goalkeeper and defenders.

He talks the talk but can't/won't coach a defence in any system that will stop them leaking goals.

Why ?

a - the keeper hasnt fulfilled the potential that was hoped of him when he signed
b - there is almost zero defensive cover coming form the midfield especially when trying to accommodate Gerrard

c- confidence is gone from the whole squad it'll be a struggle till that returns

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

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