Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

brevity wrote: »

I think if it looked like there was some semblance of control or consistency throughout the squad people would be patient. no one expected to replicate last year, if we tried but ultimately failed to get 4th then he would get another season.

But at the moment it comes across as he doesn't know what he is doing.

That sounds like a lot of utd supporters last year.

brevity wrote: »

Ya but at least that was Moyes' first season. This is Rodgers 3rd and its worse than his first.

I had a look at how Utd handled the loss of Ronaldo. Now I know the squad was a lot stronger than ours but Fergie only really bought Valencia. He filled the position and kept the team structure. Rodgers mocked spurs for buying too many and then went out and did the exact same thing.

2 blatent examples of how to handle the situation when losing a huge player and what does he do?

Baffling.

The above is unfair. Ferguson had been round the block a few times when he had to replace Ronaldo. Funny just thinking about it he actually had a very similar rollercoaster ride to Rodger's in his first three years. He finished 12th in his first season, second in his second season and 11th in his third season. He only saved his job with an FA cup win.

If he was sending out a message to the rest of the squad by dropping Mig for a huge match and replacing him with a at best championship goalkeeper (Although didn't he come from boro where he was second as well? ) Then it utterly failed!

With a player like LS you can go gung ho because you can always potentially outscore your opponents like we did last year. This year without that aspect then you really have to build from the back, get the defence and midfield playing as a unit and go from there get 1-0 wins even if not pretty which in fairness we did last year when LS was missing for a few months.

The vultures are circling and would not surprise me to see certain players getting there friends in the press to tell stories to get rid of him I think some past and current players have to much influence in these things, Rafa should never have been sacked and I think if certain players had backed him at the time then he would not have been.

Should BR be sacked now? No! I think the word ''supporter'' is lost on a lot of people. In times like this then you have to support the manager and the team and see where it leads till the end of the season and BR does deserve this he has done enough for that level of support for that level of time.

This whole transfer committee is a disaster or a very clever way of protecting people or funds. In reality we have not spent much money and in terms of wages we have saved an awful lot and the fact that we wont finish in the top four is not really surprising, the fact is that the four highest wage bills in the PR L will finish in the top four spots as in any job you get the best talent for the best wages which leads the question how ambitious are FSG really? Have they actually invested a lot of money in LFC since taking over? or just spent what was brought in?

An important question I think is if we put so much stock in buying potential then why are we so **** at it? and why is it not changing?

What is truly frightening is that we have no one who is worth a lot of money. Sterling will more than likely run down his contract and sign on a free to a big team or at most we will get 25 million for him but apart from that there is no one we can sell to fund another shopping spree and FSG don't look like they will put their hand in their pocket to do so as they play the FFP to a tee which means what is the future for us? We have to rebuild the stadium so that takes a lot of money and we don't have a Wenger to keep us in the Champions league and keep the cash rolling in so the future doesn't look great regardless of who manages us unless like UTD that FSG are ready and willing to spunk the guts of 200 million pounds of the quality that is needed to not only complete for the league but for the top 4 on a continuing basis, UTD understood this last year and it frightened them so much so for the first time in years they went out and splurged both in players and managerial appointments and it will work out for them as they will qualify for the champions league and they will eventually soon enough start competing for the league and titles in general, in short it only took them one year to realise what they needed to do, sadly we have not learned this in over 20 years.

Our squad is ****! it really is. It lacks really one vital thing. Mental toughness. My guess is that players looked at LS mental toughness and raised their own toughness mental and physically why they cant do it this year? They have no one to look up to. Steven Gerard although a great player is quiet, shy and more than likely passive aggressive. LS gave a very telling interview recently and it showed me the difference between LS and SG.

''“If I had been in Stevie’s shoes, I don’t know if I would have been able to carry on playing," the Uruguayan writes in his new autobiography serialised in the Guardian.

Can you imagine SG coming out saying something like that? No. But LS doesn't give a **** and showed that raw honesty and toughness of character that we really lack.


What does the future hold? not much until we increase the size of the stadium and start taking more money, that or we find a manager who can turn average players into over achievers, who is that? ****ed if I know.

Gits_bone wrote: »

So angry. ROdgers has to go.

Pardew has a history of selling his best players and still performing to the normal level. ALso has a great scouting system.

I think he knws Ashley doesn't want him in Europe aswell so holds back.

Pardew and Carr and a new DOF would satisfy me.