Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

NabyLadistheman · 11-12-2014 12:45AM

I remember one year under Houillier we went to OT in horrendus form and Danny Murphy looped one into the top corner for the win.

J Mysterio · 11-12-2014 02:09AM

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

It's depressingly simple, Suarez and Sturridge were so important to us last year, cannot be overstated. More or less lost both of them for the majority of the season with one gone and the other not fit or on the sidelines.

We replaced them with players who aren't good enough (lambert) or aren't good enough yet.

All the pace and guile has been removed at the top end of the pitch and the team is buckling back into itself under the pressure. With lambert or whoever else playing centrally up front Sterling finds himself isolated.

Absentees plus poor transfers = Hodgon-esque muck.

Sack Rodgers? No way

Improving the transfer policy is a must. Imperative.

Nice post really.

Sir Gallagher · 11-12-2014 02:14AM

5starpool wrote: »

Depressing but nothing inaccurate in here.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/james-pearce-liverpool-fc-how-8268387#ICID=sharebar_twitter

I can imagine a lot of the glee Liverpool fans were throwing at utd fans last March will come firing right back now. All in the game, yo I guess.

The last line of that article is one I've been thinking for a while.

I dunno, we've been through it all before, we're well used to this sh1te. United's collapse last year was pure panto, geezers flying planes over Old Trafford and all. Some craic.

Timmyctc · 11-12-2014 03:20AM

Suarezistheman wrote: »

I remember one year under Houillier we went to OT in horrendus form and Danny Murphy looped one into the top corner for the win.

I don't think anyone is taking Sunday's match for granted. Form usually means nothing in these games.

Soft Falling Rain · 11-12-2014 08:59AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Dicking around with Sterlings contract offer

No doubt if we lose him many here will rationalise it & protest he wouldn't be worth the big wages :rolleyes:

He only signed a renewal last year and tbh he's not playing like a player worth £70,000 a week.

I'm sick of this crap from players who demand everything when they have done fcuk all. Delusions of grandeur indeed.

Vicxas · 11-12-2014 09:06AM

So it looks like Sterling (Or his agent) are trying to bend Liverpool over a barrell.....

Mr Alan · 11-12-2014 09:13AM

Vicxas wrote: »

So it looks like Sterling (Or his agent) are trying to bend Liverpool over a barrell.....

If we want to keep him we'll need to cough up. Hardly surprising tbh.

Vicxas · 11-12-2014 09:48AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

If we want to keep him we'll need to cough up. Hardly surprising tbh.

Absolutely, but im wondering if they're trying to be extortionate about it.

Lovely Bloke · 11-12-2014 09:54AM

Vicxas wrote: »

Absolutely, but im wondering if they're trying to be extortionate about it.

if they are? Of course they are, he is one of the best prospects in world football and they know clubs like Chelsea, Barca et al will be sniffing around, and if he goes on a free then they'll get paid more.

Now, either Liverpool think he's worth it, or they don't.

At the moment there doesn't seem to be much choice, because if you remove Sterling from that current squad then all you are really left with is Sturridge who is anywhere near the level required, and it then becomes even harder to attract other talent.

Turtyturd · 11-12-2014 09:59AM

Not worth £70,000 a week at present, although the manager would have to take the blame for that since he took the credit for his improvement.

NukaCola · 11-12-2014 10:32AM

Its clear Sterling is going to be a fantastic player. He's already a key member of the team. Sign him up as long as possible.

Thud · 11-12-2014 10:33AM

Turtyturd wrote: »

Not worth £70,000 a week at present, although the manager would have to take the blame for that since he took the credit for his improvement.

What's Glen Johnson on again?
So Sterling runs his guts out and is supposed to be happy getting an offer 50k a week less that Glen?

Luckycharms_74 · 11-12-2014 10:38AM

hadepsx wrote: »

Free?. Come on rte get the players' name right

brevity wrote: »

The lads on RTE were positive!

I don't watch RTE

What were they on about

8-10 · 11-12-2014 10:38AM

Thud wrote: »

What's Glen Johnson on again?
So Sterling runs his guts out and is supposed to be happy getting an offer 50k a week less that Glen?

That's an unfair comparison for Sterling's agent to make I'd say. What's Sturridge on would be what I would say as the agent, only a couple of years older but equally important. I would want Sterling to be closer to his wages than the 70k figure, not quite as much but give incentives so that he knows he's going to be increasing each season or something. Have a feeling they'll settle in the 100k/week area + incentives

Mr Alan · 11-12-2014 10:47AM

8-10 wrote: »

That's an unfair comparison for Sterling's agent to make I'd say. What's Sturridge on would be what I would say as the agent, only a couple of years older but equally important. I would want Sterling to be closer to his wages than the 70k figure, not quite as much but give incentives so that he knows he's going to be increasing each season or something. Have a feeling they'll settle in the 100k/week area + incentives

Sturridge is reported to be on between £100k to £150k since his most recent contract. With most reports at the top end of that.

Offering Sterling 50% of that is shocking tbh & I'm not surprised him/his agent wouldn't be happy.

Turtyturd · 11-12-2014 10:50AM

Thud wrote: »

What's Glen Johnson on again?
So Sterling runs his guts out and is supposed to be happy getting an offer 50k a week less that Glen?

Would Johnson get what he is on now based on recent performances?

Thud · 11-12-2014 10:58AM

8-10 wrote: »

That's an unfair comparison for Sterling's agent to make I'd say. What's Sturridge on would be what I would say as the agent, only a couple of years older but equally important. I would want Sterling to be closer to his wages than the 70k figure, not quite as much but give incentives so that he knows he's going to be increasing each season or something. Have a feeling they'll settle in the 100k/week area + incentives

yes but if the lazy guy at work is getting paid that much more than you would you be happy to accept less?

hadepsx · 11-12-2014 10:58AM

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

I don't watch RTE
What were they on about

They were pronouncing frei,the basle player, as free.instead of fray. Which I presume is how his name is pronounced. Very annoying. And giles was saying pelligrino when talking about pelligrini.

Don't know about the positivity.kinda zoned out after that.too depressed thinking about Liverpool's issues thus far.

flanzer · 11-12-2014 10:59AM

Anyone see Suarez last night? I miss him sooo bad

:(:( :pac:

The guy was relentless, like his old self. Chasing everything down, when you'd think it was hopeless. Scored 1, set up another

Francie Barrett · 11-12-2014 11:01AM

I really think that if you dropped Sterling into the likes of a Real or Barcelona team, he would not look out of place at all (not saying he is Ronaldo or Messi good, but he would be a very good squad player for them). Having the quality around him would just raise his game massively.

8-10 · 11-12-2014 11:02AM

Thud wrote: »

yes but if the lazy guy at work is getting paid that much more than you would you be happy to accept less?

Are the hardest workers the best paid at your job?

NukaCola · 11-12-2014 11:09AM

8-10 wrote: »

Are the hardest workers the best paid at your job?

Whats your point? Sterling can demand a high wage. It doesn't matter who's on what, lazy or not. LFC have to either pay up or watch him leave.

MD1990 · 11-12-2014 11:14AM

Sterling is getting unfair criticism. He is only 20 & too much is being placed on his shoulders. He is running his socks off every game & needs a rest. I seen an interesting stat yesterday. Full 90 minute games played b4 they turned twenty: Messi 25, Ronaldo 30, Sterling 49. Regarding his contract we need to get it done asap.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 11-12-2014 11:18AM

My fear with Sterling is that he takes a step back and thinks "what am I going to win here over the next three years" and decide that that might be the point at which he'll make other plans.

20 year olds are not known for their patience.

NukaCola · 11-12-2014 11:23AM

MD1990 wrote: »

Regarding his contract we need to get it done asap.

Exactly. Just pay him the money. Long term 5 year deal. Keep him happy.

People are giving out because he's only 20, doesn't deserve it, just signed a contract etc etc Just give him the money. We need to build a team around him. The lad is quality. If we want to win things these are the players we need. I wouldn't try to be clever with players contracts. Especially players who could step into another quality team willing to pay him better.

joe123 · 11-12-2014 11:33AM

Tie Sterling down to a long term contract.

Sign a top quality striker in January to work alongside/challenge Sturridge.

Get fourth.

NukaCola · 11-12-2014 11:39AM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Too right. No rush to get it done.

Best way to lose him. Why play hard ball with a player who is easily in the top 3 most important players at the club?

NukaCola · 11-12-2014 11:44AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Sturridge is reported to be on between £100k to £150k since his most recent contract. With most reports at the top end of that.

Offering Sterling 50% of that is shocking tbh & I'm not surprised him/his agent wouldn't be happy.

Are the people negotiating for the club in space? Or absolutely inept. They'd spent 45m+ on Southampton dross but skimp on wages for our top quality players. Stupid stuff.

LuckyLloyd · 11-12-2014 11:48AM

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

if they are? Of course they are, he is one of the best prospects in world football and they know clubs like Chelsea, Barca et al will be sniffing around, and if he goes on a free then they'll get paid more.

Now, either Liverpool think he's worth it, or they don't.

At the moment there doesn't seem to be much choice, because if you remove Sterling from that current squad then all you are really left with is Sturridge who is anywhere near the level required, and it then becomes even harder to attract other talent.

Agree with this.

djPSB · 11-12-2014 11:50AM

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

He only signed a renewal last year and tbh he's not playing like a player worth £70,000 a week.

I'm sick of this crap from players who demand everything when they have done fcuk all. Delusions of grandeur indeed.

Sterling is one of the only players whos performed at the required level over the last few weeks. If he had anyone at all helping him it would be useful.

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