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Asking for a pay rise.

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  • #32
    Bostitch12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 ✭Bostitch12


    I am considering looking for a pay rise in the New Year. I am with the company for over a year and I am on minimum wage. I didn't mind as when i started I had just finished college in May 13' and started working November 13' and was happy to be getting the experience. I was just looking for some advise on what sort of figure i should be hoping to get? I am working and living in Dublin. I work in the construction industry.


  • #33
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Bostitch12 wrote: »
    I am considering looking for a pay rise in the New Year. I am with the company for over a year and I am on minimum wage. I didn't mind as when i started I had just finished college in May 13' and started working November 13' and was happy to be getting the experience. I was just looking for some advise on what sort of figure i should be hoping to get? I am working and living in Dublin. I work in the construction industry.
    What do you do? You mentioned you're a graduate, min wage is tough to live on in Dublin but for some professions like architecture the supply is very high relative to demand.


  • #34
    UCDVet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    I tend to change jobs every 3 or 4 years, so I've never done the 'I want a raise' thing. I figure, a job worth keeping is one that would match my pay to my value. If I can go and get another offer for more, it means my current company isn't a good one to keep working at.


  • #35
    noodler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,076 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Gongoozler wrote: »
    Well no, I am on probation still. And... Doesn't everyone get a pension? But yeah I'm paying enough into it anyway.
    Gongoozler wrote: »
    I didn't say anything about a private pension. I said it's not optional to pay into your public sector pension.

    Consider yourself fortunate.

    Defined Benefit Pension Schemes are very valuable.


  • #36
    Bostitch12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 ✭Bostitch12


    Iwasfrozen wrote:
    What do you do? You mentioned you're a graduate, min wage is tough to live on in Dublin but for some professions like architecture the supply is very high relative to demand.

    I am a Quantity Surveyor. Yes, Dublin is quiet expensive. I don't have much left over at the end of the week to make an attempt at saving a few quid but I wouldn't exactly say im struggling.


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  • #37
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    If you feel you deserve a pay rise, then you must also believe that you could find someone else who would hire you at the desired rate with relative ease.

    If that's the case it's easy to get a pay rise. Approach the boss, explain that you feel you are being undervalued and why. You're basically pitching yourself here, reminding him / her why they don't want the hassle of trying to replace you.
    Keep the pressure on, you may need to talk to your boss several times.
    If they do not budge then you start interviewing for other jobs - let them know you're doing this - but be prepared to actually leave.

    I did this once and it worked. I am still with the same company but any pay rises since then have come without me requesting them.

    Basically - if you're worth it to the business, it's easy to get the money.


  • #38
    mad muffin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    This is what's its like asking for a rise

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZrgxHvNNUc


  • #39
    Littlekittylou
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭Littlekittylou


    mad muffin wrote: »
    This is what's its like asking for a rise

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZrgxHvNNUc


    Same here.

    No OP never.


    I am not worthy I am not worthy. :-P


  • #40
    Jawgap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Gongoozler wrote: »
    Not in the public sector it's not.

    Actually it is. There's nothing stopping you saving, investing or buying an annuity.

    I left the PS in Sept for a better opportunity in the private sector - the key to asking for a pay rise is to demonstrate and argue in favour of your value - why do you deserve the pay rise? If it's because your outgoings have increased, that's not a good reason. Essentially, what have you brought to the party?

    Threatening to leave is not a good idea unless you can carry through the threat.


  • #41
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Bostitch12 wrote: »
    I am a Quantity Surveyor. Yes, Dublin is quiet expensive. I don't have much left over at the end of the week to make an attempt at saving a few quid but I wouldn't exactly say im struggling.

    Well not knowing the specifics of the case I would say as a quantity surveyor with 1 years experience you have a strong case get off min wage.


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  • #42
    .E_C_K_S.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭.E_C_K_S.


    You want some?! I'll give it to yerrrrrrrr!

    What I would do if looking for an increase in pay: (Remember you think you are due a payrise not entitled to one)

    1. Demonstrate (if any) extra work you have taken on since you have started the job and your achievements(use % and £ signs as much as possible here)

    2. Try to show that you are dependable as an employee. Are you sick a lot during the year? Are there many in the company that can do your job effectively if you are absent. Don't be afraid to show off.

    3. Do some Market Research on your job. Are you paid in line with most other companys for the same role?

    4. Have your proposed increase ready. Say if you are 25k ask for 28,500...make the number unusual. It looks like you have given it more thought.

    5. You should be responsible for your career progress, not just the company you work for. Take responsibility for this and make sure they are aware you are taking the issue seriously.

    6. Put it in writing and keep it one a4 page max. Request a meeting in person. Be polite and accept their decision if any. If it's not what you expected look at moving on to put more pressure on them

    This is a rushed list and I'm aware that this isn't a response to the OP but hopefully a few pointers there to get some people the right track if people are looking for info on how to go about it. (from my experience)


  • #43
    DoYouEvenLift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    Know your skills and abilities and what they're worth to your company and other companies. If you have opportunities to get higher pay elsewhere then you could use that for negotiating and say that you prefer working for them.


  • #44
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Yeah after a year on my job, out of necessity, couldn't live on what I was earning. Got more than I could have expected, have looked after me well.


  • #45
    Gongoozler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    noodler wrote: »
    Consider yourself fortunate.

    Defined Benefit Pension Schemes are very valuable.

    I've no idea what the difference between pensions is. It's all grand to think you have a pension set up, and apparently it's a good one (?) but all I know is I pay a fcukton out of my gross every month.
    Jawgap wrote: »
    Actually it is. There's nothing stopping you saving, investing or buying an annuity.

    I left the PS in Sept for a better opportunity in the private sector - the key to asking for a pay rise is to demonstrate and argue in favour of your value - why do you deserve the pay rise? If it's because your outgoings have increased, that's not a good reason. Essentially, what have you brought to the party?

    Threatening to leave is not a good idea unless you can carry through the threat.

    What has saving, investing or buying an annuity got to do with whether or not pensions are optional in the public sector? I'm really lost on that.

    Well all I know is I was never asked whether I wanted to pay into a pension or not. Ergo, therefore, not optional.


  • #46
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,543 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Asked for a rise about 18 months into my current emplyment when my boss left and I took on more responsibility. Was turned down with a promise it would be reviewed after another 6 months or so. Unfortunately the guy who made the promise died before he could deliver on it and the whole thing was forgotten and I've never asked since

    25 years later, I'm earning 10++ times as much and certainly not complaining....


  • #47
    Jawgap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Nemeses wrote: »
    Everyone gets a state pension... if that still exists in the next 20yrs or so..

    However, its optional to have other pension funds..
    Gongoozler wrote: »
    Not in the public sector it's not.
    Gongoozler wrote: »
    I've no idea what the difference between pensions is. It's all grand to think you have a pension set up, and apparently it's a good one (?) but all I know is I pay a fcukton out of my gross every month.



    What has saving, investing or buying an annuity got to do with whether or not pensions are optional in the public sector? I'm really lost on that.

    Well all I know is I was never asked whether I wanted to pay into a pension or not. Ergo, therefore, not optional.

    Apologies, misread your post - I thought you were saying you couldn't invest in a private pension fund beyond the various PS occupational schemes.


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