Jackie Healy Rae has died

Lapin · 07-12-2014 02:05AM

May he rest in peace.

I won't mourn him though.

The man represented everything that was fucked up with Irish politics and holds this country back.

And gobshites continue to vote for his son in the ignorant notion that he will somehow inherit the power and influence.

Same thing happened in my constituency (Galway East).

We get the politicians we deserve.

Fúcking Morons vote them in.

manster · 07-12-2014 02:26AM

It speaks volumes of the urban / rural divide in this country when JHR is called a "gombeen" for holding Bertie to ransom to promote South Kerry. Whilst Tony Gregory (an IRA member) did the same to Haughey for inner city Dublin and was lauded for it. This looking after your own politic continues today with Lowry and will continue into the future. The "morons" who vote for these politicians look to get a better local deal for their local communities, end of. Anyone who doesn't is privileged to believe in a "the national interest" politic and is deluded if they don't believe that all politics are local first and national second. JHR RIP.

Kevin McCloud · 07-12-2014 02:37AM

Lapin wrote: »

And gobshites continue to vote for his son in the ignorant notion that he will somehow inherit the power and influence.

They dont though, they vote for his son because he is helping the people and looking after them, its as simple as that. Not sure what is your story with your constituency or is it relevant since you are missing the point completely.

michael999999 · 07-12-2014 02:46AM

Kevin McCloud wrote: »

They dont though, they vote for his son because he is helping the people and looking after them, its as simple as that. Not sure what is your story with your constituency or is it relevant since you are missing the point completely.

Hes son that was caught using the Dail phone to run up votes for himself, in some competition he was in?

Typical Fianna Failer!

And don't forget all the council contracts worth millions that Healy Rae plant hire gets every year!

Kevin McCloud · 07-12-2014 02:50AM

michael999999 wrote: »

Hes son that was caught using the Dail phone to run up votes for himself, in some competition he was in?

Typical Fianna Failer!

And don't forget all the council contracts worth millions that Healy Rae plant hire gets every year!

Let me ask you this, call a spade a spade on this one now if you were him wouldn't you have done the exact same thing and supported your families plant hire business?

kerry4sam · 07-12-2014 03:14AM

Well Well Jackie Healy Rae! A ripe auld age indeed. Some stories will be told for quite some time to come in Kilgarvan; Kenmare & Beyond no doubts. Wish all who knew & loved the Late Jackie-Healy-Rae Strength from here. He was a stalwarth; a source of strength of many; a source of solutions for many; and a source of humour for many more.

Some posts in here are nothing short of shameful, but each to their own. I shall not speak ill of the dead anyways.

"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal".

Rest In Peace Jackie-Healy-Rae,
kerry4sam

Macavity. · 07-12-2014 03:24AM

kerry4sam wrote: »

Some posts in here are nothing short of shameful, but each to their own.

People are allowed to criticise the political actions of the man, they have reason to. The fact he's dead makes no difference.

porsche959 · 07-12-2014 03:25AM

To be voted in as an independent TD without backing of a party machine, by a relatively small % of the Kerry electorate (and one that declined, from 1997 on, 1997 election, the first he stood for, was his high point, I think I am correct in saying, both in terms of first preference and % votes) and exercise influence in government is certainly quite an achievement.

Whether the achievement was for good or bad, I will leave to others to decide. RIP.

First Up · 07-12-2014 09:16AM

Don Kedick wrote: »

I wasn't saying local issues. FF/the blueshirts have looked after the well off with their policies when they're in power. That's why people like Jackie Healy have to look after others in trouble.

Wealth creators, wealth distributors. The latter are useful; the former essential.

Means Of Escape · 07-12-2014 10:02AM

Honey Monster wrote: »

If every politician did as much for their county's as JHR we would live in a better country. Tipperary TDs take note.

Michael Lowry

Red21 · 07-12-2014 10:46AM

I see how it works, so long as you tag "RIP Jackie" to the beginning or end of a post you can write any nonsense you want. Isn't there a word for that?

Any chance people could post up the names of 4/5 authentic honest TD's in this or the last Dail, just so we can see the kinda public representative one should aspire to have?

Means Of Escape · 07-12-2014 10:51AM

Red21 wrote: »

I see how it works, so long as you tag "RIP Jackie" to the beginning or end of a post you can write any nonsense you want. Isn't there a word for that?

Any chance people could post up the names of 4/5 authentic honest TD's in this or the last Dail, just so we can see the kinda public representative one should aspire to have?

Joan Burton
Richard Bruton
Brian Lenihan
Simon Coveny
Brian Hayes

"RIP Jackie"

First Up · 07-12-2014 10:57AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I drove on some of his roads.

Red21 wrote: »

I see how it works, so long as you tag "RIP Jackie" to the beginning or end of a post you can write any nonsense you want. Isn't there a word for that?

Any chance people could post up the names of 4/5 authentic honest TD's in this or the last Dail, just so we can see the kinda public representative one should aspire to have?

I have come across many dedicated, honest and very hard working politicians across all the main parties. However they all have to get elected, which often means competing with populist chancers for the votes of mpressionable eejits like some in here.

michael999999 · 07-12-2014 11:06AM

Means Of Escape wrote: »

Joan Burton
Richard Bruton
Brian Lenihan
Simon Coveny
Brian Hayes

"RIP Jackie"

Richard bruton?

The same fellow that hid the whistle blowers allegations for years!

Red21 · 07-12-2014 11:08AM

First Up wrote: »

I have come across many dedicated, honest and very hard working politicians across all the main parties. However they all have to get elected, which often means competing with populist chancers for the votes of mpressionable eejits like some in here.

Names please?

michael999999 · 07-12-2014 11:08AM

First Up wrote: »

I have come across many dedicated, honest and very hard working politicians across all the main parties. However they all have to get elected, which often means competing with populist chancers for the votes of mpressionable eejits like some in here.

What you mean is you voted Fianna fail because they got you planning permission!

Sure Fianna fail were well known for getting things sorted for people, as the tribunals have shown!

Red21 · 07-12-2014 11:11AM

Means Of Escape wrote: »

Joan Burton
Richard Bruton
Brian Lenihan
Simon Coveny
Brian Hayes

So we should aspire for more FF, FG, labour, it's easy for Burton to look wonderful paying a spin doctor 120K/130K to look after her.

tayto lover · 07-12-2014 11:12AM

He looked after his constituents after he looked after himself.

crazygeryy · 07-12-2014 11:15AM

R i p ill drink a few pints tonight and drive home as a tribute to the man.

Red21 · 07-12-2014 11:17AM

crazygeryy wrote: »

R i p ill drink a few pints tonight and drive home as a tribute to the man.

when did he ever say to do this ?

Red21 · 07-12-2014 11:21AM

First Up wrote: »

I which often means competing with populist chancers for the votes of mpressionable eejits like some in here.

It's easy post this up! can give some names please? of actually elected TD's that support what you're saying and your great "system"

crazygeryy · 07-12-2014 11:22AM

Red21 wrote: »

when did he ever say to do this ?

I didn't say he did. But sure dont they all come from the same stock if you get my drift.

Cantremember · 07-12-2014 11:23AM

Red21 wrote: »

when did he ever say to do this ?

When he asked for a special rule for the isolated rural dwellers of Kerry.

barney4001 · 07-12-2014 11:23AM

i took an instant dislike to the man when he threatened a young gardia lady who warned him about drunk driveing as he was getting into his car at lienster house and was drunk as a skunk,and like all polititions he looked after himself first then his family in politics.

crazygeryy · 07-12-2014 11:27AM

Cantremember wrote: »

When he asked for a special rule for the isolated rural dwellers of Kerry.

No he's right that was danny really rae

Cantremember · 07-12-2014 11:33AM

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/drink-is-not-the-issue-rural-isolation-is-220506.html

"The fact is that his father Jackie, a retired TD and a moderate drinker, has been opposing strict drink-driving legislation since the 1990s because of the affect it is having on rural people."

MajorMax · 07-12-2014 11:35AM

Gombeen politician. He's what's wrong with the political system in Ireland. Good riddance

First Up · 07-12-2014 11:41AM

michael999999 wrote: »

What you mean is you voted Fianna fail because they got you planning permission!

Sure Fianna fail were well known for getting things sorted for people, as the tribunals have shown!

How you could draw that conclusion from this or anything else I have posted is beyond mind boggling. I wonder if we are on the same planet - or of the same species.

conorhal · 07-12-2014 11:56AM

MajorMax wrote: »

Gombeen politician. He's what's wrong with the political system in Ireland. Good riddance

It seems to me that 'conviction politicians that enjoy the national stage' like Reilly, Shatter, Noonan and all their earlier incarnations from McCreavey to Dev have servered people far worse then Healey Rae.

Healey Rae is what's 'wrong with the system' only because the big parties and their media shills tell you that he's what's wrong with the system because they loathe independents, especially independents that they're forced to rely on. For that reason he is 'bad for politics', just like protest is bad for politics or saying no to the EU in a referendum. There seem to be a lot if things that our media and politicians consider 'bad for politics' and most of them seem to involve democracy.

The reality is that any politician that represents his constituants is actually what's best about politics, local representation locally. I've always admired the Swiss canton system, it makes all politics local and representitive, as it should be. That doesn't mean it can't be national as well. The canton's can even hold their own refferendums. Take a look at the white elephants that Dunlaoire Rathdown have built or the vandalism going on in Kilkenny at the moment and tell me that a local referendum or representation wouldn't have saved many a town or county from the nightmarish decisions by our one elected and then immediately unaccountable 'representitives'.
We have too many gobsheens like John Bruton or Mary Robinson that like to strut about the national and international stage with a barely consealed contempt for those that put them there and their loyalties certiantly aren't bound to the best outcomes for people of Ireland.

I also find it hilarious that Tony Gregory cut a deal with Haughey for his inner city Dublin consitituants and he is cannonised, but Healey Rae does the exactly the same thing and he's scorned for it.

First Up · 07-12-2014 12:03PM

Red21 wrote: »

It's easy post this up! can give some names please? of actually elected TD's that support what you're saying and your great "system"

I'm curious to know what alternative "system" you have in mind other than constitutional democracy but no matter.

As for names - off the top of my head;

Frances Fitzgerald
Michael Noonan
Fergus O'Dowd
Barry Desmond
Nora Owens
Michael McGrath
John McGuinness
Peter Barry
Alan Dukes
Garrett Fitzgerald
Michael D Higgins
Tom Kitt

Jackie Healy Rae has died

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