Jackie Healy Rae has died

ebbsy · 05-12-2014 05:25PM

Teachers being hired on jobsbridge

Homeless dying on the streets

New nurses working for nothing

Car owners being strangled

Schools having to do their own fund raising

RIP

efb · 05-12-2014 05:26PM

ebbsy wrote: »

Teachers being hired on jobsbridge

Homeless dying on the streets

New nurses working for nothing

Car owners being strangled

Schools having to do their own fund raising

Ba dee baa day

Sheep Lover · 05-12-2014 05:28PM

As Jackie said himself once.

"Shure grahhara begeio arraghgh ghehgheh"

mickmurphy18 · 05-12-2014 05:33PM

efb wrote:

He served Kerry South the way Tony Gregory did Dublin Central. The Dublincentric media made a saint of one and a bafoon of the other. But he delivered for his constituents

are you saying there is a conspiracy here ? both of these men are now dead ??

suicide_circus · 05-12-2014 05:35PM

Sometimes, if you have nothing nice to say, it's best to say nothing at all.

This time, I'll say nothing at all.

humanji · 05-12-2014 05:38PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Sometimes, if you have nothing nice to say, it's best to say nothing at all.

This time, I'll say nothing at all.

But that's not saying nothing. That's insulting them and pretending to hide it.

Volvoair · 05-12-2014 05:40PM

cool hair style.

crockholm · 05-12-2014 05:40PM

Condolences to his family.I could never see myself voting for JHR because, 1) differrent constituency, 2) never understood what his actual politics were.

Neither could I understand the hatred he engendered in people.The pork-barrell nature of politics is evident everywhere-would Abbeyfeale really have gotten the giant Kostel plant without Gerry Collins? Did Albert Reynolds and Bertie Ahearne not look after their constituents equally?

If anything,with the position he had,propping up a government one would have expected more-last time I was in Kilgarvan was last summer on my holidays and it does not seem to have gained much from the Emperors Residence-no big factories (that I saw),just decent roads in and out of the village. Straffan in Kildare also has fine surfaced roads when I passed through,but thats par for the course when catering for those who golf there.But having good roads in one of Irelands premier Tourist areas-O noes-the corruption!!

So,while not a man I would vote for,not exactly the kind of bagman we have seen all to often in the corridors of Power in this country either.

babysock88 · 05-12-2014 05:44PM

It is sad to learn of his passing away. He distinguished himself amongst his peers albeit in the local interests of his own constituency at all costs. However, he was a passionate and unrelenting advocate of rural interests which is commendable in an age of excessive east coast centralisation of services.

Larbre34 · 05-12-2014 05:48PM

oceanman wrote: »

one of a kind, RIP

He isn't (I'll leave 'unfortunately' out of it for the day thats in it)

We have Michael and Danny trotting out the same schtick.

Boom__Boom · 05-12-2014 05:54PM

efb wrote: »

He served Kerry South the way Tony Gregory did Dublin Central. The Dublincentric media made a saint of one and a bafoon of the other. But he delivered for his constituents

As someone from Kerry South I would strongly disagree about the notion he "delivered" for his constituents.

His major achievement was getting funding for roadworks, which when you consider that one of the family businesses is a plant hire business is fairly questionable.

The other major thing the Healy-Raes do for their constituents is sort out the paperwork/put pressure on people in various governments so that people got various government entitlements faster e.g. medical cards, grants, pensions, moved up on housing lists. Basically making sure that people got stuff they were already entitled to that but a small bit faster/easier.

As regards doing anything positive in terms of trying to create jobs/opportunities/attracting investment to Kerry he did zip and if anything made the job of anyone trying to do so even harder.

babysock88 · 05-12-2014 06:00PM

It saddens me that posters are using his death as an opportnity to criticise Jackie Healy-Rae. I am not an advocate of many of the tactics he used to push his policies through in Government or his lack of interest in national politics. However, I think a thread that is specifically addressing his death is the wrong context in which to vent negative sentiment towards him as a politician or as a man.

efb · 05-12-2014 06:02PM

Boom__Boom wrote: »

As someone from Kerry South I would strongly disagree about the notion he "delivered" for his constituents.

His major achievement was getting funding for roadworks, which when you consider that one of the family businesses is a plant hire business is fairly questionable.

The other major thing the Healy-Raes do for their constituents is sort out the paperwork/put pressure on people in various governments so that people got various government entitlements faster e.g. medical cards, grants, pensions, moved up on housing lists. Basically making sure that people got stuff they were already entitled to that but a small bit faster/easier.

As regards doing anything positive in terms of trying to create jobs/opportunities/attracting investment to Kerry he did zip and if anything made the job of anyone trying to do so even harder.

He got funding for the local hospitals. Try getting what he sorted for people without him- death by red tape

suicide_circus · 05-12-2014 06:02PM

humanji wrote: »

But that's not saying nothing. That's insulting them and pretending to hide it.

No getting anything past you

washman3 · 05-12-2014 06:12PM

efb wrote: »

He served Kerry South the way Tony Gregory did Dublin Central. The Dublincentric media made a saint of one and a bafoon of the other. But he delivered for his constituents

Hardly a valid comparison. Gregory was a different character, different agenda. There were no nod and wink policies when Gregory done deals with Government. A solicitor was always present and everything was out in the open. No secret deals, no hidden agendas. Gregory or his family didn't profit.

Anyway, RIP to the man and condolences to his family.

Donkey Oaty · 05-12-2014 06:12PM

babysock88 wrote: »

It saddens me that posters are using his death as an opportnity to criticise Jackie Healy-Rae. I am not an advocate of many of the tactics he used to push his policies through in Government or his lack of interest in national politics. However, I think a thread that is specifically addressing his death is the wrong context in which to vent negative sentiment towards him as a politician or as a man.

But would you agree that it is also inappropriate for people to use the mourning window to wax eloquent about stuff that he did that is clearly controversial in the hope that they will not get a critical response?

Let's leave his politics for another day - fine. But that goes for the supporters as well.

Lady Chatterton · 05-12-2014 06:27PM

washman3 wrote: »

Hardly a valid comparison. Gregory was a different character, different agenda. There were no nod and wink policies when Gregory done deals with Government. A solicitor was always present and everything was out in the open. No secret deals, no hidden agendas. Gregory or his family didn't profit.

Anyway, RIP to the man and condolences to his family.

Healy-Rae never made a secret of the fact that the people of Kerry South were at all times his priority, sometimes at the expense of the rest of us. Having said that, I admire what he managed to do for his constituents and there were times I wished we had a politician like him in Co. Clare.

RIP Jackie and sincere condolences to the Healy Rae family.

humanji · 05-12-2014 06:28PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

No getting anything past you

But apparently my hint for you to stop trolling went over your head. So how about you just get give it a rest.

Hitchens · 05-12-2014 06:34PM

Bertie on TV3 News reminiscing over the "fun & games" they had together :rolleyes:

_Kaiser_ · 05-12-2014 06:42PM

babysock88 wrote: »

It saddens me that posters are using his death as an opportnity to criticise Jackie Healy-Rae. I am not an advocate of many of the tactics he used to push his policies through in Government or his lack of interest in national politics. However, I think a thread that is specifically addressing his death is the wrong context in which to vent negative sentiment towards him as a politician or as a man.

It saddens me that whenever someone dies in Ireland, we fall over ourselves with condolences and positive words regardless of what the person did in life.

I'm sorry for the family's loss, and as such I'll leave the politics out of it, but that's as far as it goes.

PutDownArtist · 05-12-2014 06:48PM

I don't get the outpouring of grief in situations like this. Look up 'gombeen' in the dictionary and this man's name is there.

I bet you anything the same RIPppers will pop up when Bertie finally pops his clogs.

Donkey Oaty · 05-12-2014 06:54PM

humanji wrote: »

But apparently my hint for you to stop trolling went over your head. So how about you just get give it a rest.

Maybe the first post warning should say: "No negative comments about the deceased, including any witty, diplomatic statements which happen to the only reason why anyone reads threads like this in the first place."

JONJO THE MISER · 05-12-2014 06:54PM

A great man, stuck it to the Jackeens.
R.I.P.

ToddyDoody · 05-12-2014 06:57PM

Jackie... great name for a tranny. RIP.

jaykay74 · 05-12-2014 07:06PM

rip JHR. I don't blame him for taking advantage of the weak irish political system that encourages local politics to be played out on a national stage.

Aidric · 05-12-2014 07:12PM

Condolences to his family but he represented everything that is wrong with Irish politics. Never pretended to be interested in anything other then his local concerns.