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Breastfeeding in Public places

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  • #452
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    dubstarr wrote: »
    Plus some of the feeding rooms are disgusting.Some have toilets in them as well.Or baby changing facilities which smells worse than the toilets.
    And i will feed where i like because ITS THE LAW.

    Hang on a second, there is feeding rooms out there??

    And better yet, people won't use them? Because they don't have to and they dont give a ****e about anyone else.

    Why do they exist then, why were they built I wonder.


  • #453
    WellThen?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭WellThen?


    dubstarr wrote: »
    Plus some of the feeding rooms are disgusting.Some have toilets in them as well.Or baby changing facilities which smells worse than the toilets.
    And i will feed where i like because ITS THE LAW.

    The fact that there are breastfeeding rooms should be your first clue.


  • #454
    jaja321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭jaja321


    nm wrote: »
    I dont feel particularly strongly on this but just to play devil advocate then - so if it wasn't illegal, you'd be cool with people taking a **** in public due to it being natural and well, they NEEDED to **** right there, so that's that?

    Sure if you don't want to see it, look away. Yea?

    Its unhygienic for a start.


  • #455
    Neyite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    Dolbert, you likely wont encounter it when breastfeeding. They'll likely say nothing and come on here to tell us how disgusting you are. You can join myself and others on the Bench of Shame.


  • #456
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    nm wrote: »
    if it wasn't illegal

    So we are doing unrealistic hypotheticals now? That is where the conversation has gone?

    If you want to imagine the law differently then fine - There are hygiene concerns with one - and not the other - for a start.

    For seconds going to the toilet where everyone is eating - is not really comparable to a baby eating where everyone is eating. Restaurants are _for_ eating in. The baby is eating. Where is the issue?


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  • #457
    cyning
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭cyning


    nm wrote: »
    I dont feel particularly strongly on this but just to play devil advocate then - so if it wasn't illegal, you'd be cool with people taking a **** in public due to it being natural and well, they NEEDED to **** right there, so that's that?

    Sure if you don't want to see it, look away. Yea?

    Breastmilk isn't unhygienic, doesn't smell and isn't offensive.


  • #458
    WellThen?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭WellThen?


    Neyite wrote: »
    Dolbert, you likely wont encounter it when breastfeeding. They'll likely say nothing and come on here to tell us how disgusting you are. You can join myself and others on the Bench of Shame.

    Disgusting is a strong word jeez, just uncomfortable to watch.


  • #459
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    If it's discreet I have no problem with it whatsoever. Like anything in life, consideration works both ways. Having said that there are certain places it just isn't appropriate.


  • #460
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    cyning wrote: »
    Breastmilk isn't unhygienic, doesn't smell and isn't offensive.

    It's not to offensive to you or me, but it might be to others (presumably breast feeding rooms were built to provide privacy). Who cares about the others though right.


  • #461
    Neyite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    WellThen? wrote: »
    The fact that there are breastfeeding rooms should be your first clue.

    No. They are Baby Changing rooms that have a chair, presumably to sit down on in addition to a changing mat, nappy bin and sink.

    I have never seen a 'breastfeeding' room.


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  • #462
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    nm wrote: »
    And better yet, people won't use them? Because they don't have to and they dont give a ****e about anyone else.

    It is not that they do not care about others - it is that there is no reason TO care about it in this situation. If there was a reason to care about others - they likely would. But the concern here is not warranted. Peoples personal issues are their issues - no one elses.
    nm wrote: »
    Why do they exist then, why were they built I wonder.

    Because people like options. And businesses like to offer options to draw in customers. Simple economics really. Certainly however an option being available is not a compulsion on someone to avail of it. Just because a restaurant offers Ballygowan - does not oblige you to not order Tap Water. Just because a restaurant offers a feeding room - does not oblige you to get up and use it.


  • #463
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    nm wrote: »
    It's not to offensive to you or me, but it might be to others

    Which is their issue. No one elses.
    nm wrote: »
    Who cares about the others though right.

    If there is no reason warranting concern then - yes - no concern is warranted. Shocking.

    Where concern over the sensibilities of others is warranted - damn right I will go out of my way to act accordingly. Where it is not warranted - I simple could not possibly care any less short of having an actual lobotomy to remove the entire faculty of caring from my very being.


  • #464
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    EazyD wrote: »
    Like anything in life, consideration works both ways. Having said that there are certain places it just isn't appropriate.

    Amen.

    The thing is, frantic mothers cannot seem to accept this or even consider it as an opinion.

    In the face of this - in this thread they reply about how it's not disgusting, not sexual, not unhygienic, etc. All answers to questions that no one asked.


  • #465
    cyning
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭cyning


    EazyD wrote: »
    If it's discreet I have no problem with it whatsoever. Like anything in life, consideration works both ways. Having said that there are certain places it just isn't appropriate.

    Why? And where?


  • #466
    andyman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭andyman


    Some breastfeeding women can just as delicate as some members of the public. I nearly lost my job because of a breastfeeding woman. I was working in a hotel years ago and was handing food to a table. A woman was breastfeeding her child. I was 18 and had never witnessed it before so naturally, I was a little thrown off at first but got over it pretty quickly

    She went to the owner (God rest his soul) saying that I was a vile human being and he sacked me on the spot. He rang me the next day, apologised and asked me to come back.

    I still see her about every so often and I can't stand people like her.


  • #467
    Flippyfloppy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    nm wrote: »
    Who cares about the others though right.

    Not me!! The amount of times I've reduced whole restaurants full of men & women clientele to tears by evilly breastfeeding my darling baby mwah haha and I'd do it again!!!!


  • #468
    osarusan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,957 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    nm wrote: »
    No it doesn't :confused:

    Anyway back on topic now before I get banned..

    sorry, what i should have said is that the thread ban you quoted is not the same one you mention as having been retracted.

    That ban and DR thread predates the ban you quoted in your post.


  • #469
    cyning
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭cyning


    nm wrote: »
    Amen.

    The thing is, frantic mothers cannot seem to accept this or even consider it as an opinion.

    In the face of this - in this thread they reply about how it's not disgusting, not sexual, not unhygienic, etc. All answers to questions that no one asked.

    Frantic? No. Quite frankly I'm defending my right to feed my baby however I see fit. There are laws for a reason. You have no clue of the absolute crap that breastfeeding mothers occasionally put up with. No one has been able to say why mothers shouldn't feed except that it might make someone else feel uncomfortable. There are no hygiene implications. Anyone who finds a mother feeding their baby sexual needs help. Psychiatric help.


  • #470
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    nm wrote: »
    All answers to questions that no one asked.

    Which is - actually when you think about it - very understandable. Because the minority of people in here who actually do have an issue with seeing it or - in one exceedingly dubious claim - HEARING it - they have not actually moved to explain the basis of their concern/disgust/repulsion/issue.

    So we are - despite quite a few of us asking - merely left guessing as the root of the issue.

    Those people appear to think that merely expressing their disgust is enough and we should draw a line under it and leap to pander to their sensibilities. Not happening. Unless they actually have a basis for their issue which actually WARRANTS our concern - they are just bleating and moaning to my ears.

    And those same people if given the same argument of "It is offensive to me and I do not want to see it" on other issues would likely reject that same line of reasoning they are offering us. Imagine a muslim leaned over from the table beside you and requested you not eat the pork today in their presence because it is offensive to them.

    You would clearly inform the patron in question that this offence is their issue and their issue alone - and they are free to get over it or leave. The exact same is true of people with an issue being present in a restaurant in the vague vicinity of a Baby having their dinner. You know - restaurants being that place where people have dinner. Including babies.


  • #471
    kylith
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    IvyTheTerrible wrote: »
    Did you not see the photos I posted? You really DON'T see a lot of breast when a woman is breastfeeding.
    When my SiL was breastfeeding she and I had lunch one day. It was about 10 minutes before I even realised that she was feeding the baby. I was sat directly opposite her and hadn't noticed. That's how much chest is on view when a woman is breastfeeding. I guarantee that several women in any given restaurant not breastfeeding have more of their breasts on show.
    nm wrote: »
    Amen.

    The thing is, frantic mothers cannot seem to accept this or even consider it as an opinion.

    In the face of this - in this thread they reply about how it's not disgusting, not sexual, not unhygienic, etc. All answers to questions that no one asked.
    Since we're answering questions no-one asked, maybe you can answer one that has been asked several times: since it's not sexual, not unhygienic, and not smelly why exactly does it make you uncomfortable?


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  • #472
    Graces7
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    WellThen? wrote: »
    Yes, I am a mother. I have breastfed before. I done it at home because I'm considerate, what's the big deal, do it somewhere private.

    When it is the norm to show naked breasts in public.. I have never been in a restaurant where this has happened but I was visiting someone i hardly knew when she pulled her jersey up so her 3 year old could suckle.. Yes it was embarrassing. Had that at any time been me I would have excused myself from the room and company to feed my child.

    It is very easy to cover discreetly.

    But seeing large pregnant woman these days; showing every detail.. tight tee shirts...

    No modesty these days.


  • #473
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    cyning wrote: »
    Why? And where?

    In the vast majority of places it is never an issue, all I'm saying is common sense and consideration should prevail.


  • #474
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    Mod

    nm banned because despite being infracted and told not to discuss mod actions on thread, he continued to do so.

    As far as I can see, no mod has given their opinion on this issue on this thread so how we can be accused of bias is beyond me. We certainly haven't banned everyone arguing against breastfeeding in public and we would have no interest in doing so, we have simply banned those who are unlikely to actually care about this subject but who are posting purely to wind people up. i.e. Trolling.

    PM me or any of the other mods if further clarification is needed.


  • #475
    Neyite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    Graces7 wrote: »
    But seeing large pregnant woman these days; showing every detail.. tight tee shirts...

    No modesty these days.

    Cos that's proof they had the SEX isn't it?? And I bet they LIKED it too!!! Durty heours with their big bellies in their tight tops.


  • #476
    Chucken
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Graces7 wrote: »
    When it is the norm to show naked breasts in public.. I have never been in a restaurant where this has happened but I was visiting someone i hardly knew when she pulled her jersey up so her 3 year old could suckle.. Yes it was embarrassing. Had that at any time been me I would have excused myself from the room and company to feed my child.

    It is very easy to cover discreetly.

    But seeing large pregnant woman these days; showing every detail.. tight tee shirts...

    No modesty these days.

    Ah here! Are women supposed to be ashamed of being pregnant now?
    Thank christ those days are well and truly gone or would you prefer we lock them up again until they're 'churched'
    :rolleyes:


  • #477
    WellThen?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭WellThen?


    There is no point me posting here AT ALL as everyone else with a different opinion is being banned, actually ridiculous. I'm out.


  • #478
    bodice ripper
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    Here lookit, nothing brings me out in a rash like new mothers, but it is madness to be disturbed by someone breast feeding. You should be embarrassed to admit that fact. Sort your lives out.


  • #479
    Nanazolie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Nanazolie


    WellThen? wrote: »
    Yes, I am a mother. I have breastfed before. I done it at home because I'm considerate, what's the big deal, do it somewhere private.

    You didn't leave your home for 6 months? If you have breastfed your child, you know that a breastfed child needs more feeds than a child on formula. They also are a lot less predictable because they can feed just a little then ask again 20 minutes later. How can you organize going out, shopping, etc, when you breastfeed if you want to do it at home?


  • #480
    dubstarr
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    Neyite wrote: »
    No. They are Baby Changing rooms that have a chair, presumably to sit down on in addition to a changing mat, nappy bin and sink.

    I have never seen a 'breastfeeding' room.

    Dundrum have a feeding room,they have bottle heaters and lovely comfy chairs and toys for teh other kids.Also a water cooler.
    I have used them a few times but if im having something to eat with my other kids well im not gonna pack everyone up and toddle off to a feeding room.
    I had 3 kids under 3 1/2 and if i got them settled and baby needed feeding then i fed the baby.

    I have to laugh when my 3rd son was born i also had a 12 and 11 year old sons.Now if anyone was to b e embarrassed it should have been them but they werent


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  • #481
    Flippyfloppy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    Nanazolie wrote: »
    You didn't leave your home for 6 months? If you have breastfed your child, you know that a breastfed child needs more feeds than a child on formula. They also are a lot less predictable because they can feed just a little then ask again 20 minutes later. How can you organize going out, shopping, etc, when you breastfeed if you want to do it at home?

    They also seem to think breastfeeding takes 'two minutes' so I doubt they did it for 6 months , maybe gave it a try in hospital


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