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Britain bans sex acts in porn

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  • #182
    Fat Christy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Fat Christy


    Vomit wrote: »
    It shouldn't...

    Wanna read my posts? See, this is part of the problem here.

    Why are you discrimminating against women with gapped vaginas? :(


  • #183
    rosedream
    Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭rosedream


    My name is URL wrote: »
    If you didn't know what it was before now and have no intentions of ever viewing such things why on earth would you want it banned?

    Ah here, each to there own and all, if people are into that and enjoy it, that's fine. But you'll have to forgive me for trying to get over the shock and imaginary pain of what I witnessed on google images.


  • #184
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Anyone wrote: »
    The Tory party only banned these acts in porn so they dont get filmed partaking in them.

    Hahahaha. Someone clearly needed a dodgy night away from the wife covered up :P


  • #185
    mrkiscool2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


    Vomit wrote: »
    LOL- we've moved from a 69 to a threesome of posters talking to each other, as if their comedic remarks somehow strengthen their arguments. Textbook message board dynamics.
    And now we're allowed threesomes? This is getting even better! Maybe you're not as sexually repressive as I thought!

    In all seriousness though, what has two consenting adults doing what they want in a bedroom got to do with you? As long as it's safe and consensual everything is fine. And, by the way, when two porn actors do a shoot, that's consent. They are consenting to do what is scripted. Just saying!


  • #186
    Lyaiera
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    mrkiscool2 wrote: »
    And now we're allowed threesomes? This is getting even better! Maybe you're not as sexually repressive as I thought!

    In all seriousness though, what has two consenting adults doing what they want in a bedroom got to do with you? As long as it's safe and consensual everything is fine. And, by the way, when two porn actors do a shoot, that's consent. They are consenting to do what is scripted. Just saying!

    Vomit is saying that due to the influence of the media they should be held to a higher standard than two private individuals.


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  • #187
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,305 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Vomit wrote: »
    I made some pretty mild points about porn and now, according to the totally level headed arguers here, I'm:

    1) A Catholic

    2) Like a Muslim

    3) Sexually backwards

    You people crack me up!


    That's the spirit! :D

    Nothing wrong with being Catholic btw, has never stopped me getting my freak on, and that whole flagellation thing - it's no wonder Ireland was all whitewashed cottages back in the day, that wasn't whitewash! :pac:

    While you're telling people to google, look up "Catholic contraception" ;)


  • #188
    BlaasForRafa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    Vomit wrote: »
    LOL- we've moved from a 69 to a threesome of posters talking to each other, as if their comedic remarks somehow strengthen their arguments. Textbook message board dynamics.

    It's because based on what you've posted it's easy to make fun of you, it's like you're the Ned Flanders of this thread.


  • #189
    Vomit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Vomit


    mrkiscool2 wrote: »
    In all seriousness though, what has two consenting adults doing what they want in a bedroom got to do with you?

    Nothing!! That's exactly what I'm saying. Bloody hell it would help if people would read my posts instead of jumping all over me.


  • #190
    mrkiscool2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


    Lyaiera wrote: »
    Vomit is saying that due to the influence of the media they should be held to a higher standard than two private individuals.
    Again, people that are watching porn are consenting adults. Also, for the record, I have no problem with 15, 16, 17 year olds watching porn. It's healthy. And if they don't like what they see they won't do it. It's when you have people under 14 viewing porn that the problems start.


  • #191
    Vomit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Vomit


    Talking about Catholicism and calling me Ned Flanders is white noise to me as an atheist


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  • #192
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Lyaiera wrote: »
    Vomit is saying that due to the influence of the media they should be held to a higher standard than two private individuals.

    And you're saying porn isn't of a high enough standard, maybe it needs HD? Most of the things listed have been shown in the last 2 Bond films by the way.


  • #193
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,350 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Why, in your opinion is female ejaculation not something that should be portrayed in porn?

    The bbfc doesn't think it exists and class it as a form of water sports.


  • #194
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,623 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    jh79 wrote: »
    The bbfc doesn't think it exists and class it as a form of water sports.

    That's just plain hilarious if true.


  • #195
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,214 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    GarIT wrote: »
    And you're saying porn isn't of a high enough standard, maybe it needs HD? Most of the things listed have been shown in the last 2 Bond films by the way.

    I wish my broadband was of a high-enough standard, my go-to site for porn is so slow to load, even in 240p. :(


  • #196
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭GarIT


    jh79 wrote: »
    The bbfc doesn't think it exists and class it as a form of water sports.

    Who are the bbfc, and if they are any official body do you not think they should consult a few gynaecologists rather than making assumptions?


  • #197
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Vomit wrote: »
    I was mostly talking about choking and the like. I've seen that stuff in porn myself and TBH it looks pretty nasty and disrespectful (to say the least) toward women. And let's get real- porn is mostly made for men's entertainment, not the other way around.

    I've been with more than one woman who asked me to put my hands around her throat while 'in the throws of passion' (perhaps not actual choking but certainly a bystander wouldn't have been able to tell)

    So if it happens in real life (certainly wouldn't appear to be too uncommon anyways) why can't it be depicted in porn?


  • #198
    Fat Christy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Fat Christy


    Vomit wrote: »
    Talking about Catholicism and calling me Ned Flanders is white noise to me as an atheist

    Genuine question: Do you watch any form of porn?


  • #199
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,350 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GarIT wrote: »
    Who are the bbfc, and if they are any official body do you not think they should consult a few gynaecologists rather than making assumptions?

    Not my opinion just posting what I've read, the BBFC is the British Board of Film Classification. They did consults with gynaecologists from what i remember.


  • #200
    Lyaiera
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    mrkiscool2 wrote: »
    Again, people that are watching porn are consenting adults.

    I think the amount of sex crimes and the proven influence of the media can't be ignored. And by media here I don't just mean pornography, but all media.

    Also, for the record, I have no problem with 15, 16, 17 year olds watching porn. It's healthy. And if they don't like what they see they won't do it. It's when you have people under 14 viewing porn that the problems start.

    I wouldn't be so sure as you. There's a reason that films have a classification rating. Teenagers often have difficulties in processing information, and especially dealing with new information. It's part and parcel of the development they go under at that age. I think teenagers trying to figure out their sexuality should have the right influences provided for them, and the openness to discuss the issues that arise in their life. I think this thread is a perfect example of how ****ed up people are when it comes to sex, so expecting developing teenagers to be able to negotiate it without the right influences or guidance would be ridiculous. There's a lot of debates to be had on that, about who decides these influences, who provides the guidance, what sexual material is appropriate for teenagers and what sexual media is appropriate for teenagers.


  • #201
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Lyaiera wrote: »
    I think the amount of sex crimes and the proven influence of the media can't be ignored. And by media here I don't just mean pornography, but all media.




    I wouldn't be so sure as you. There's a reason that films have a classification rating. Teenagers often have difficulties in processing information, and especially dealing with new information. It's part and parcel of the development they go under at that age. I think teenagers trying to figure out their sexuality should have the right influences provided for them, and the openness to discuss the issues that arise in their life. I think this thread is a perfect example of how ****ed up people are when it comes to sex, so expecting developing teenagers to be able to negotiate it without the right influences or guidance would be ridiculous. There's a lot of debates to be had on that, about who decides these influences, who provides the guidance, what sexual material is appropriate for teenagers and what sexual media is appropriate for teenagers.

    Who is qualified to say that spanking or name calling isn't the right way to have sex, there is no right way and there is no need to control what can be shown.


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  • #202
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,350 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My name is URL wrote: »
    That's just plain hilarious if true.

    I was wrong they recognised it in 2009 for the first time but it seems from the op they have changed their minds again.


  • #203
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Vomit wrote: »
    Just a reminder - He said when he was 14 years old he realised that he enjoyed pinning girls against walls and smacking them on the arse.

    and what's wrong with that? When I was 14 I realised I liked boobies and stroking mr Winky.

    When I was 16 I realised I love giving women oral pleasure.

    As long as it's done between consenting people of legal age and nobody is 'permanently' harmed then what business is it of yours?


  • #204
    Lyaiera
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    GarIT wrote: »
    Who is qualified to say that spanking or name calling isn't the right way to have sex, there is no right way and there is no need to control what can be shown.

    I didn't make any judgements on those sex acts. I simply said that the influence of the media (and broader society) needs to be examined in light of attitudes to sex as is seen with the amount of sex crimes and sex orientated abuse.


  • #205
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Lyaiera wrote: »
    I think the amount of sex crimes and the proven influence of the media can't be ignored. And by media here I don't just mean pornography, but all media.

    Please elaborate?


  • #206
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,623 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    jh79 wrote: »
    I was wrong they recognised it in 2009 for the first time but it seems from the op they have changed their minds again.

    Just checked there. It's banned because it and piss are indistinguishable on film, apparently.


  • #207
    Lyaiera
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    Diego Simeone wrote: »
    Please elaborate?

    Are you questioning whether the media influences people?


  • #208
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,350 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jh79 wrote: »
    I was wrong they recognised it in 2009 for the first time but it seems from the op they have changed their minds again.

    The reason for the u-turn it seems is because it is too difficult to distinguish between female ejaculate and urine.


  • #209
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Lyaiera wrote: »
    I didn't make any judgements on those sex acts. I simply said that the influence of the media (and broader society) needs to be examined in light of attitudes to sex as is seen with the amount of sex crimes and sex orientated abuse.

    If anything we should be teaching people not to be influenced by the media rather then censoring it.


  • #210
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Lyaiera wrote: »
    Are you questioning whether the media influences people?

    I'm questioning whether it's been "proven" to influence people to become sex criminals.


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  • #211
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Lyaiera wrote: »
    Are you questioning whether the media influences people?

    You said there was a proven link, this proof should be easy to find. I don't think he said people aren't influenced by the media but was more questioning your claim that there is proof it influenced sex crimes.


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