Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

Blatter · 30-11-2014 07:46PM

The negatives of finishing outside the top 4 outweight the positives of a 2nd or 3rd place finish, by a distance too.

On that basis, I'd take 4th if it was offered right now.

bucketybuck · 30-11-2014 07:57PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

If you had the choice would you take 4th right now?

Nah, the poor standard elsewhere suggests that if we get our shit together even just a little we should be able to easily make top four. We aren't great, but neither are the rest of the teams.

I'd rather play the season out, and if we did find some good form who knows what could happen. I don't think we can win the title, but even just challenging will generate the type of confidence that would stand to us next season.

Cantona's Collars · 30-11-2014 08:43PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

Nah, the poor standard elsewhere suggests that if we get our shit together even just a little we should be able to easily make top four. We aren't great, but neither are the rest of the teams.

I'd rather play the season out, and if we did find some good form who knows what could happen. I don't think we can win the title, but even just challenging will generate the type of confidence that would stand to us next season.

The difference this season is the fact that we actually have a functioning midfield,look at yesterday: Di Maria went off & we brought on Herrera.Last season we had TC23 and a half fit Fletcher.LVG bangs on about his "philosophy" but it's actually bearing fruit,the commentators on yesterdays match spoke of the drills before the game and how the players were now comfortable in their roles & interchanging places in systems when needed.
77% of the ball against a team that tried it's damndest to get it back is impressive and we created chances plus we don't hear excuse of "we tried & hopefully" anymore.Confidence is growing and I can see the league levelling out after Christmas,then we should see the 'real' table as the likes of West Ham,Southampton,Newcastle etc. drop back.

Hococop · 30-11-2014 10:00PM

Just saw vidic was not playing for inter today, is he injured or already fallen out of favor?

paulbok · 30-11-2014 10:04PM

I really can't see Chelsea getting caught unless on Feb 2nd, after not signing more strikers, they get a unitedesque injury crisis upfront.

With 1/3 or the season gone, 2nd should be the aim with 3rd place 'acceptable'.
Form is coming back, and there will hopefully be a defensive reinforcement in January. Hopefully the injuries clearing up a little, even with a half settled defense line we would be an awful lot stronger.
Southampton have a tough run coming up and City are not as sharp as they should be.
The December games will really tell a lot.

The Moldy Gowl · 30-11-2014 10:05PM

Who is the rivals for third? Arsenal and Liverpool?

Arsenal have finished 3rd twice in the last 10 years. Liverpool in the last 10 seasons have finished 2nd twice and 3rd twice, then 4,6,7,8. We beat arsenal, yet to play liverpool.

We have a better team than the 2 of them, and we look to be clicking into place. I think 4th would be a slight disappointment, would much rather 3rd. There isnt really a difference between 3rd and 4th anyway. If we play nice football and lose out to arsenal by 2 points ill be ok with that.

We will know a lot more in the next 10 games anyway.

Cookiemunster · 30-11-2014 11:25PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Who is the rivals for third? Arsenal and Liverpool?

Arsenal have finished 3rd twice in the last 10 years. Liverpool in the last 10 seasons have finished 2nd twice and 3rd twice, then 4,6,7,8. We beat arsenal, yet to play liverpool.

We have a better team than the 2 of them, and we look to be clicking into place. I think 4th would be a slight disappointment, would much rather 3rd. There isnt really a difference between 3rd and 4th anyway. If we play nice football and lose out to arsenal by 2 points ill be ok with that.

We will know a lot more in the next 10 games anyway.

3rd qualifies for the Champions League, 4th gets into the Champions League play offs. Generally the English team qualifies, but Everton didn't in 05/06. I'd rather be safe in 3rd.

Plus does anyone know what happens if Spurs or Everton win the Europa League? Does England get a 5th place or do the Europa League winners take the spot from the 4th place team?

Donnielighto · 30-11-2014 11:53PM

If utd make it through the Christmas period without being stretched by injuries we should be fine.

Headshot · 01-12-2014 12:26AM

Unbelievable time to plunder Dortmund in January

The Moldy Gowl · 01-12-2014 12:29AM

We did ****e last year. They do ****e this year. Only one to blame is kagawa.

jebus84 · 01-12-2014 12:34AM

Headshot wrote: »

Unbelievable time to plunder Dortmund in January

for who,reus is prob the only player we need,and id rather we give the young players we have a chance then spending 50 odd million on hummels and gundogan (who both injury prone),I think McNair and blackett could be great players for us for the next decade.

Mars Bar · 01-12-2014 12:37AM

Isn't Reus injured too?

Headshot · 01-12-2014 12:38AM

jebus84 wrote: »

for who,reus is prob the only player we need,and id rather we give the young players we have a chance then spending 50 odd million on hummels and gundogan (who both injury prone),I think McNair and blackett could be great players for us for the next decade.

Hummels, subotic and Reus

Hococop · 01-12-2014 12:40AM

Mars Bar wrote: »

Isn't Reus injured too?

Yep I think he is out for the season now

kryogen · 01-12-2014 12:48AM

Hococop wrote: »

Yep I think he is out for the season now

Not yet, only ruled out till January (for now)

KH25 · 01-12-2014 08:16AM

Whatever happened to Gundogan? Last I heard he had a persistent back problem.

kstand · 01-12-2014 08:27AM

I'd be very much inclined to take a risk on Reus and spend whatever it took to get him.

Tom.D.BJJ · 01-12-2014 09:10AM

Just checking the tv listings. Is the match tomorrow not on TV? BT have Leicester Liverpool.

Lucas Hood · 01-12-2014 09:13AM

KH25 wrote: »

Whatever happened to Gundogan? Last I heard he had a persistent back problem.

Only back from injury a month or 2.

I think he came out recently and said he had a deal tied up with Madrid before his injury problems.

Lucas Hood · 01-12-2014 09:16AM

Tom.D.BJJ wrote: »

Just checking the tv listings. Is the match tomorrow not on TV? BT have Leicester Liverpool.

It is on tv just not Irish or Uk tv.

Montroseee · 01-12-2014 09:33AM

kstand wrote: »

I'd be very much inclined to take a risk on Reus and spend whatever it took to get him.

Reus plays on the left though, no great need for him. Gundogan has been very poor since returning btw, would have to wait till the summer at least to see if he can regain form and stay injury free.

kstand · 01-12-2014 09:34AM

Montroseee wrote: »

Reus plays on the left though, no great need for him. Gundogan has been very poor since returning btw, would have to wait till the summer at least to see if he can regain form and stay injury free.

I'd leave Gundugan well alone and concentrate on Strootman.

Montroseee · 01-12-2014 09:38AM

kstand wrote: »

I'd leave Gundugan well alone and concentrate on Strootman.

I'd agree with that sentiment. Once there is another CB or RB purchased in Jan I'll be happy, even just as a short term option.

homerjay2005 · 01-12-2014 09:47AM

kstand wrote: »

I'd leave Gundugan well alone and concentrate on Strootman.

with Fellaini, Blind and Carrick in the mix, would we actually need Strootman at the moment? if we were signing a midfielder, wed need somebody with a completely different skillset to the above 3 and i am not sure if Strootman gives that. also not a good idea to be bringing a player just coming back from injury into our squad right now.

two top class defenders are top priority and dare i say, unless Falcao turns good, another striker.

advertsfox · 01-12-2014 10:04AM

All goals against Hull from my new favourite video taker

http://vimeo.com/113197855

Crimson King · 01-12-2014 10:05AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

two top class defenders are top priority and dare i say, unless Falcao turns good, another striker.

Anyone else impressed with his movement when he came on on Saturday? However brief it was, I thought it was a joy to watch and looking forward to seeing him hopefully have a decent injury free run. the man was class and hopefully can prove he still is.

bucketybuck · 01-12-2014 10:15AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

with Fellaini, Blind and Carrick in the mix, would we actually need Strootman at the moment?

Yes. We would.

Lets not settle for the likes of Blind and Felliani, thats the type of thinking that left us in this mess in the first place. They are playing well? Great, but lets still try to improve on them.

Will I Amnt · 01-12-2014 10:20AM

bucketybuck wrote: »

Yes. We would.

Lets not settle for the likes of Blind and Felliani, thats the type of thinking that left us in this mess in the first place. They are playing well? Great, but lets still try to improve on them.

Definitely. From what I've seen of Strootman he is a level above Blind and Fellaini.

The Moldy Gowl · 01-12-2014 10:20AM

Blind and Fellaini are great squad players. The players than can keep a squad together to win a league. Much better than tc23 and ando.

We could do with buying someone like strootman to replace carrick. No point in settling on blind and Fellaini just because they are doing better than the old crowd.

The_Kew_Tour · 01-12-2014 10:55AM

You can't have 22 world class players.

A Strootman would be a very welcome addition though.

Carrick return has been welcome.

Thought he was v good against Arsenal.

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