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Looting and Rioting in St. Louis (Merged)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Putinovsky wrote: »
    hey amazinfun, where did you get that list from out of interest?

    Already answered.

    Very revealing how you and select others are far more concerned with where I got the data than the victims and the lack of publicity of their murders.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Already answered.

    Very revealing how you and select others are far more concerned with where I got the data than the victims and the lack of publicity of their murders.

    Yeah, its almost as if we know something.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Nodin wrote: »
    Yeah, its almost as if we know something.......

    No, more like you wish for others to stay uninformed about black on white crime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Already answered.

    Very revealing how you and select others are far more concerned with where I got the data than the victims and the lack of publicity of their murders.

    It's amazing that people are giving you a hard time for posting recent black on white murder cases. Bewildering, in fact. I wonder would they be sniping at someone for posting a list of recent white on black murder cases?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭Radly


    Nodin wrote: »
    Yeah, its almost as if we know something.......

    LOL you're some man
    What happens if someone googles a phrase to find out the above information...Chances are they will click on one of the first results shown. It could be a keyboard warriors' blog or someone making money off a website that has gotten itself to the top of the search results.
    And what? You want this information on where the list was sourced from so you can build some sort of strawman argument about the site it was found on? Why?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    No, more like you wish for others to stay uninformed about black on white crime.


    ...because there's a link between a case where somebody was killed and the shooter not charged and cases where somebody was killed and somebody was charged for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    catallus wrote: »
    I googled a few of them, this one struck me as particularly bad

    http://www.wthr.com/story/21189737/family-mourns-death-of-southport-shooting-victim

    And then when I followed this up it got even worse

    http://www.wthr.com/story/21235636/teen-17-in-court-on-indianapolis-crime-spree-charges

    I nearly felt as bad for the shooter's family as I did for the victim.

    And this one was just messed up: http://www.pnj.com/story/news/crime/2014/06/11/pensacola-man-charged-homicide/10321269/

    Of the Indianapolis shootings,I thought that the robbery and murder of Nathan Trapuzzano was the worst-a newlywed looking forward to a first anniversary with an eight months pregnant wife,good job,just going out for a morning walk Before work.
    Some lowlife scum want to rob him of his possessions,make him strip so he can't run away,during the robbery Simeon Adams (the robber/murderer) asks "why you reaching for your shoes?" Before shooting him,"White man tried to tussle with me,so I shot him".

    The whole racial aspect to the murder did not seem to interest the media,but a shyt head like mike Brown is being fast-tracked to sainthood within the black Community.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭Slot Machine


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Already answered.

    Very revealing how you and select others are far more concerned with where I got the data than the victims and the lack of publicity of their murders.

    Maybe that's because "I got the list through an email" sounds like you made it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Already answered.

    Very revealing how you and select others are far more concerned with where I got the data than the victims and the lack of publicity of their murders.

    Any of those shooters cops?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Any of those shooters cops?

    Here's one.
    A two-year-old case involving the shooting death of an unarmed 18-year-old white man by a black police officer is gaining attention on social media in the wake of this week’s protests and rioting in Ferguson, Missouri.

    Gilbert Collar, a white, unarmed 18-year-old under the influence of drugs was shot and killed Oct. 6, 2012, by Officer Trevis Austin, who is black, in Mobile, Alabama. Despite public pressure for an indictment, a Mobile County grand jury refused to bring charges against Officer Austin, concluding that the officer acted in self-defense.

    Former CNN host Piers Morgan blasted the police response in Mobile days after Collar was killed, saying he “didn’t deserve to die,” but otherwise the case has received little attention outside Alabama, prompting critics to accuse the national media of a “whiteout.”

    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/27/white-teen-gilbert-collar-killed-by-black-cop-trev/#ixzz3KThHdgtl 
    Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter



    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/27/white-teen-gilbert-collar-killed-by-black-cop-trev/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper



    I don't doubt it has happened, is happening, will happen again.

    my point was that the list Amazingfun posted was irrelvant, as cops shooting civilians was different than civilians shooting civilians.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Maybe that's because "I got the list through an email" sounds like you made it up.

    The cases are real. What is it you so desperately wish was "made up"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭Slot Machine


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    The cases are real.

    If they're real then surely you can link to them as proof.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    If they're real then surely you can link to them as proof.

    Already been done for one. Do the rest yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    This has just been released by Molyneux-start @17:00 minute mark for his rundown on black crime stats:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    I see Mike Browns family have dropped the red items of clothing while speaking in public ever since the fact that his stepdad was outed as a Bloods affiliate. The second biggest black street gang in the country, like their rivals the Crips they've spread out nationwide. What chance do kids like Brown have when they're born into these ghettos and the people to look up to in the neighbourhood are gangsters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder



    my point was that the list Amazingfun posted was irrelvant, as cops shooting civilians was different than civilians shooting civilians.

    Irrelevant? The end result is the same. Some poor sucker on a cold slab.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    I see Mike Browns family have dropped the red items of clothing while speaking in public ever since the fact that his stepdad was outed as a Bloods affiliate. The second biggest black street gang in the country, like their rivals the Crips they've spread out nationwide. What chance do kids like Brown have when they're born into these ghettos and the people to look up to in the neighbourhood are gangsters.

    In an unexpected act of solidarity, I've seen photos of Bloods and Crips side by side at protests


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    In an unexpected act of solidarity, I've seen photos of Bloods and Crips side by side at protests

    Sure I've often eat a packet of king crips with a cut on my finger
    What's the big deal


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Sure I've often eat a packet of king crips with a cut on my finger
    What's the big deal

    Because a Blood would normally try to kill someone they suspected of being a Crip and vice versa (there are some exceptions to this). Nevermind being in the same proximity and posing for pictures together.
    Gang culture is probably for another thread. But them coming together in the aftermath of Ferguson is another sign of solidarity amongst USAonians.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1965876

    Remarkable similar case


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,280 ✭✭✭✭Sand



    The reporting is very different - for starters the word "white" does not appear at all in the article. Neither does the word "black".

    Meanwhile the reporting of the Ferguson case repeatedly and from a very early stage stressed it was a shooting of a black man by a white cop. I guess the reporter in the Collar case is to be given some credit for addressing the case on its merits without trying to create a race angle, but it does serve to highlight the agenda of the media in reaction to Ferguson.

    A calmer media response might have served to support an outcome with less violence and damage to Ferguson. It could also have served to ensure the Ferguson movement was not discredited and thrown off track by its association with rioting and thuggery. There are genuine questions to be raised on if the balance is right on police training and authority to use deadly force. While in individual cases like these two, the police officer may be cleared of any wrongdoing, its not sufficient to leave it at that and move on. One thing that strikes me about both cases is that Wilson and Austin were both alone when confronted with a violent threat - having no partner with them is clearly going to ramp up their sense of being threatened and their move to deadly force as a response.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    So the grand jury was wrong ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Nodin wrote: »
    Yeah, its almost as if we know something.......

    Are you a clairvoyant now, Nodin?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Earl Turner


    Sadly Officer Wilson has had to retire. Hopefully he can live his life in peace now.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    Sadly Officer Wilson has had to retire. Hopefully he can live his life in peace now.
    It's awful sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Sadly Officer Wilson has had to retire. Hopefully he can live his life in peace now.
    not sadly at all. he would be a liability and be a very high risk for the force. good riddens

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    He's already received over a $1 million from supporters. I'm sure he won't starve.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    These protests are ridiculous. A shoplifting thug with a juvenile charge for second degree murder and association with the crips is dead. The world is a better place without him. It's no surprise the parents are playing the race card they must be making a fortune on the talk show circuit. He appears to have been a piece of sh*t, good riddance. As for these 'race protests', who the fcuk is dumb enough to take seriously a mob who are looting their own neighbourhoods. Bunch of twats.

    I saw one woman pose the question 'what am I gonna tell my son when he's older?', in relation to the officer not being charged. Simple answer there love, tell you're kid not to be a shoplifting, thuggish piece of sh*t and not to assault cops so he won't get shot. People keep making this kind of thing about race, as though there are marauding cops driving around looking to murder innocent black people, bullsh*t, the black people getting killed are doing things that get them shot, it's not about colour, it's about sheer fcukwittery.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,280 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    He's already received over a $1 million from supporters. I'm sure he won't starve.

    He will have to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life in case any "activist" decides to mete out the justice they feel the law did not. He did nothing wrong as demonstrated by the facts of the case but he's got that hanging over him. I wouldn't envy his life.


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