Looting and Rioting in St. Louis (Merged)

Amazingfun · 26-11-2014 06:04PM

end of the road wrote: »

i can write thanks. if my posts don't make sense and are a mess its due to the fact you obviously can't read properly. plenty of courses for adults to help them with that problem

Do you know that sentences start with capital letters?

Nerdlingr · 26-11-2014 06:04PM

:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::D:D:D:D:D

Fuhrer · 26-11-2014 06:05PM

Putinovsky wrote: »

Interesting to note that Wilson started his career in a small police force that was disbanded because it was mired in racist controversies

Its also interesting to note that Brown grew up in a home populated by violent criminals.

Beano · 26-11-2014 06:08PM

Putinovsky wrote: »

Because the person Wilson shot dead in suspicious circumstances is from the same ethnic group that was the victim of these racist controversies from Wilson's old police force.

It raises questions about whether Wilson was influenced from his initial years working in what was deemed a racist police force.

So its a smear tactic then? Didnt know racism was contagious.

humanji · 26-11-2014 06:08PM

Amazingfun wrote: »

Do you know that sentences start with capital letters?

Do you know that being a grammar nazi is against the charter? Give it a rest.

Amazingfun · 26-11-2014 06:10PM

I am going to be offline for a few hours travelling but anyone interested ought to keep an eye on Drudge for updates to this posted on the main page in red:

AP: Thousands of pages of grand jury docs reveal numerous instances of inconsistent, fabricated or provably wrong statements by witnesses... Developing...

Nokia: it seems your posts are about to gain a lot more supporting evidence

Beano · 26-11-2014 06:11PM

end of the road wrote: »

it further calls him into question

how does it call this particular cop into question? had he been disciplined for racism?

Karl Stein · 26-11-2014 06:11PM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

What black areas in America have you lived in?

None. I haven't lived in 1930's Germany either but I'm positive there was rampant institutional anti-Semitism.

Black and Hispanic people are far more likely to end up in the justice system than whites.

Do you think Black and Hispanic people are more criminal in their nature?

Beano · 26-11-2014 06:12PM

Karl Stein wrote: »

None. I haven't lived in 1930's Germany either but I'm positive there was rampant institutional anti-Semitism.

Black and Hispanic people are far more likely to end up in the justice system than whites.

Do you think Black and Hispanic people are more criminal in their nature?

Do you?

nokia69 · 26-11-2014 06:15PM

Fuhrer wrote: »

Its also interesting to note that Brown grew up in a home populated by violent criminals.

And they have even started fighting with each other over who has the right to sell t-shirts using Brown's name and picture

and I wonder who they called for help when the disagreement turned to violence

nokia69 · 26-11-2014 06:17PM

Karl Stein wrote: »

Black and Hispanic people are far more likely to end up in the justice system than whites.

Do you think Black and Hispanic people are more criminal in their nature?

what do the stats say

Amazingfun · 26-11-2014 06:18PM

Karl Stein wrote: »

None. I haven't lived in 1930's Germany either but I'm positive there was rampant institutional anti-Semitism.

Black and Hispanic people are far more likely to end up in the justice system than whites.

Do you think Black and Hispanic people are more criminal in their nature?

The FBI criminal stats confirm that both of these groups (when Hispanics are not counted as white which they often are, skewing the numbers) offend on a much higher basis in relation to their population numbers. Yet if anyone starts to go down this in providing such data they run the risk of being banned for "racism". I don't recommend anyone do this because in my experience Boards isn't really the place for this kind of in-depth discussion on race and crime. Just the way it is.

Fuhrer · 26-11-2014 06:21PM

nokia69 wrote: »

And they have even started fighting with each other over who has the right to sell t-shirts using Brown's name and picture

and I wonder who they called for help when the disagreement turned to violence

Thats not really the point I was making.

Amazingfun · 26-11-2014 06:23PM

Micheal Brown's mother has the gall to say this even though the whole world now has seen the video of her son and the shopkeeper. Unbelievable:

“I don’t believe a word of it. I know my son far too well, he would never do anything like that,” McSpadden said. “He would never provoke anyone to do anything to him and he wouldn’t do anything to anybody. I don’t believe a word of it.”

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/11/26/michael-browns-mother-my-son-doesnt-have-a-history-of-violence/

26-11-2014 06:30PM

Fuhrer wrote: »

Its also interesting to note that Brown grew up in a home populated by violent criminals.

Also interesting to note Wilson, ,that despite being raised by his criminal mother , who died when he was 16 ,he was able to pull himself up by the bootstraps...and that he recieved a Commendation For Extraordinary effort in the line of Duty .

I personally dont believe this man went out and deliberately murder anyone.

conditioned games · 26-11-2014 06:30PM

Karl Stein wrote: »

Do you think Black and Hispanic people are more criminal in their nature?

Blacks are by far the most criminal by their nature. It’s the same in every country they exist in. Look at South Africa, over 50,000 whites killed by blacks since 1994. That won’t get the media attention as the usual buzz words such as racism is used to hide reality.

Mod: user banned.

humanji · 26-11-2014 06:31PM

Amazingfun wrote: »

The FBI criminal stats confirm that both of these groups (when Hispanics are not counted as white which they often are, skewing the numbers) offend on a much higher basis in relation to their population numbers. Yet if anyone starts to go down this in providing such data they run the risk of being banned for "racism". I don't recommend anyone do this because in my experience Boards isn't really the place for this kind of in-depth discussion on race and crime. Just the way it is.

Let's not start playing the poor me card. If you start claiming black people are criminals because they're black, then you're a racist. If you say that there's a higher amount of black people committing crimes, according to statistics, then there's nothing wrong with that. It's the assumption that race dictates criminal behavior that is nonsense. Correlation does not imply causation.

Carlos Orange · 26-11-2014 06:31PM

Putinovsky wrote: »

Interesting to note that Wilson started his career in a small police force that was disbanded because it was mired in racist controversies

Here is a damning indictment he received from the person who managed the transition to the new police force.

"My impression is he didn’t go above and beyond, and he didn’t get in any trouble."

Fuhrer · 26-11-2014 06:31PM

Jake1 wrote: »

Also interesting to note,that despite being raised by his criminal mother , who died when he was 16 ,he was able to pull himself up by the bootstraps...and that he recieved a Commendation For Extraordinary effort in the line of Duty .

I personally dont believe this man went out and deliberately murder anyone.

I dont know what you're talking about.

Beano · 26-11-2014 06:34PM

psinno wrote: »

Here is a damning indictment he received from the person who managed the transition to the new police force.

"My impression is he didn’t go above and beyond, and he didn’t get in any trouble."

how is this damning?

reprise · 26-11-2014 06:36PM

humanji wrote: »

Let's not start playing the poor me card. If you start claiming black people are criminals because they're black, then you're a racist. If you say that there's a higher amount of black people committing crimes, according to statistics, then there's nothing wrong with that. It's the assumption that race dictates criminal behavior that is nonsense. Correlation does not imply causation.

That cuts both ways. It's no different claiming Brown was shot only because he was black and assuming guilt only because Wilson was white, regardless of the facts. It's no less racist.

Carlos Orange · 26-11-2014 06:40PM

Beano wrote: »

how is this damning?

I guess it isn't really. Back to the drawing board on smearing him I guess.

Beano · 26-11-2014 06:41PM

psinno wrote: »

I guess it isn't really. Back to the drawing board on smearing him I guess.

its very easy for subtlety to get lost in AH.

humanji · 26-11-2014 06:42PM

reprise wrote: »

That cuts both ways. It's no different claiming Brown was shot only because he was black and assuming guilt only because Wilson was white, regardless of the facts. It's no less racist.

Yeah, that's exactly the problem with this whole scenario. People are just assuming one thing must be true because of their already cemented belief and they're manipulating facts to fit that preconception.

Peist2007 · 26-11-2014 06:50PM

Amazingfun wrote: »

The FBI criminal stats confirm that both of these groups (when Hispanics are not counted as white which they often are, skewing the numbers) offend on a much higher basis in relation to their population numbers. Yet if anyone starts to go down this in providing such data they run the risk of being banned for "racism". I don't recommend anyone do this because in my experience Boards isn't really the place for this kind of in-depth discussion on race and crime. Just the way it is.

:pac:

Only looking at the stats and ignoring the economic and social factors involved to come to the conclusion that blacks and hispanics are by their nature more violent etc is racist. Poverty is the reason for the proliferation, not colour, so you are a racist in making your ill-informed and ignorant argument

Karl Stein · 26-11-2014 06:52PM

Beano wrote: »

Do you?

nokia69 wrote: »

what do the stats say

You're both answering a question with a question.

Amazingfun wrote: »

stats confirm that both of these groups offend on a much higher basis in relation to their population numbers.

Yes, that exactly what I said. The question is here again:

Do you think Black people and Hispanics are criminal by their nature?

Beano · 26-11-2014 06:52PM

Peist2007 wrote: »

:pac:

Only looking at the stats and ignoring the economic and social factors involved to come to the conclusion that blacks and hispanics are by their nature more violent etc is racist. Poverty is the reason for the proliferation, not colour, so you are a racist in making your ill-informed and ignorant argument

you need to up your reading comprehension levels. He didnt say they committed more crime because of their nature. He said they committed more crime relatively speaking. Which is a statistical fact.

Beano · 26-11-2014 06:54PM

Karl Stein wrote: »

You're both answering a question with a question.

Yes, that exactly what I said. The question is here again:

Do you think Black people and Hispanics are criminal by their nature?

No. the very question is preposterous. Nurture over nature.

Peist2007 · 26-11-2014 06:54PM

Beano wrote: »

you need to up your reading comprehension levels. He didnt say they committed more crime because of their nature. He said they committed more crime relatively speaking. Which is a statistical fact.

I think you need to up your comprehension skills amigo

I guess this proves racists do have tiny minds

humanji · 26-11-2014 06:56PM

Beano wrote: »

you need to up your reading comprehension levels. He didnt say they committed more crime because of their nature. He said they committed more crime relatively speaking. Which is a statistical fact.

But he was massaging the facts to miss out the important information regarding the backgrounds of those who commit criminal acts. Taking all the information paints a very different picture.

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