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Looting and Rioting in St. Louis (Merged)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 368 ✭✭Putinovsky


    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Yep. In all his initial statements he said he stopped him because he was walking down the middle of the street which was a tactic that 'intimidated people'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭Nerdlingr


    Putinovsky wrote: »
    lol :o

    try read it again there pal.....

    No no you made the statement so you tell me...How did they guarantee that the prosecution would be jeopardised by bringing Wilson to hospital? Explain please pal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Sclosages wrote: »
    6 bullets into Brown?
    It's not as if he was going at wilson armed and dangerous. 3 bullets. 1 bullet. How many bullets to incapacitate a man? If he was 'charging' perhaps he was falling forward.
    I'm sorry, I don't buy it.

    Who cares? You're not a cop. Lay people have no idea what it's like to be one. Wilson's conduct was completely in line with the threat posed to him :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    Putinovsky wrote: »
    Yep. In all his initial statements he said he stopped him because he was walking down the middle of the street which was a tactic that 'intimidated people'


    People who are told to stop walking in the middle of the road are being intimated by tactics now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    Sclosages wrote: »
    6 bullets into Brown?
    It's not as if he was going at wilson armed and dangerous. 3 bullets. 1 bullet. How many bullets to incapacitate a man? If he was 'charging' perhaps he was falling forward.
    I'm sorry, I don't buy it.

    well obviously it took 6. he didnt stop until he was shot in the head.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 368 ✭✭Putinovsky


    Fuhrer wrote: »
    People who are told to stop walking in the middle of the road are being intimated by tactics now?

    No, apparently walking down the middle of the street intimidates people and that was the reason Wilson stopped Brown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 368 ✭✭Putinovsky


    Nerdlingr wrote: »
    No no you made the statement so you tell me...How did they guarantee that the prosecution would be jeopardised by bringing Wilson to hospital? Explain please pal.

    Maybe you could read the article I quoted to you on numerous occasions. The one you said you had 'no time' to read despite being online for the last hour and responding regularly to posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,007 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Beano wrote: »
    so if he had fired one shot and hit in the head that would have been ok?

    i'd be slightly willing to believe the officers story if that was all he fired.
    Beano wrote: »
    You've got a 300LB guy running towards you.

    and? happens everyday of the week in many places. you don't have people mown down by trigger happy types
    Beano wrote: »
    Counting rounds is not your first priority.

    he was trigger happy hence the amount of shots
    Beano wrote: »
    Another person who wont let facts get in the way of the narrative they wish was true.

    not at all. the officers story is unraveling slowly

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    Putinovsky wrote: »
    Yep. In all his initial statements he said he stopped him because he was walking down the middle of the street which was a tactic that 'intimidated people'

    He first talked to them because they were walking down the middle of the road. Brown told him to "**** off". he stopped them when he noticed what he was holding in his hand. I've already quoted the evidence he gave. sworn evidence. try to read it before you comment again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    Putinovsky wrote: »
    No, apparently walking down the middle of the street intimidates people and that was the reason Wilson stopped Brown.


    Seems like a perfectly reasonable thing for the cop to do.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    i'd be slightly willing to believe the officers story if that was all he fired.



    and? happens everyday of the week in many places. you don't have people mown down by trigger happy types



    he was trigger happy hence the amount of shots



    not at all. the officers story is unraveling slowly


    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    Beano wrote: »
    well obviously it took 6. he didnt stop until he was shot in the head.

    If I was falling forwards, nothing short of a hurricane would propel me backwards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    Sclosages wrote: »
    If I was falling forwards, nothing short of a hurricane would propel me backwards.

    If?? why do you suppose he was falling forwards? is it because it suits your narrative?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 368 ✭✭Putinovsky


    Fuhrer wrote: »
    Seems like a perfectly reasonable thing for the cop to do.

    People walk down the middle of roads in suburban areas all the time. It was quite weird that Wilson decided to intervene.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭nokia69


    could the people who think this is all a cover up, tell us what the think was Wilsons motive, why would he want to kill brown

    also what about the independent witnesses who backed Wilson from the start and never changed their stories

    but the witnesses on the Brown side all changed their stories when the forensic evidence was shown to them, and all the forensic evidence only backs one story

    the people who told lies should be done for perjury


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    Putinovsky wrote: »
    People walk down the middle of roads in suburban areas all the time. It was quite weird that Wilson decided to intervene.

    do you think if a garda seen you walking down the middle of the road that he would tell you to walk on the footpath?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Beano wrote: »
    He first talked to them because they were walking down the middle of the road. Brown told him to "**** off". he stopped them when he noticed what he was holding in his hand. I've already quoted the evidence he gave. sworn evidence. try to read it before you comment again.

    This poster has demonstrated a total lack of both comprehension and ability to deal with the facts. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to say anything that makes sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,007 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Who cares?

    many do. not everyone wishes to condone a shooting of someone because of certain "reasons"
    Amazingfun wrote: »
    You're not a cop.

    so what. means nothing. your not one either.
    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Lay people have no idea what it's like to be one.

    so what. irrelevant.
    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Wilson's conduct was completely in line with the threat posed to him

    it wasn't. his story doesn't add up

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    Putinovsky wrote: »
    People walk down the middle of roads in suburban areas all the time. It was quite weird that Wilson decided to intervene.


    The police officer asked someone walking in the middle of the road, you know, where the cars drive, to stop walking in the middle of the road and instead walk on the footpath.


    This seems weird to you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    many do. not everyone wishes to condone a shooting of someone because of certain "reasons"



    so what. means nothing. your not one either.



    so what. irrelevant.



    it wasn't. his story doesn't add up

    Please learn how to write. Your posts are a consistent mess (apart from the making no sense part). I mean an actual mess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,007 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    nokia69 wrote: »
    could the people who think this is all a cover up, tell us what the think was Wilsons motive, why would he want to kill brown

    also what about the independent witnesses who backed Wilson from the start and never changed their stories

    but the witnesses on the Brown side all changed their stories when the forensic evidence was shown to them, and all the forensic evidence only backs one story

    the people who told lies should be done for perjury
    they shouldn't as they didn't commit perjury

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 368 ✭✭Putinovsky


    Interesting to note that Wilson started his career in a small police force that was disbanded because it was mired in racist controversies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭Nerdlingr


    Putinovsky wrote: »
    Maybe you could read the article I quoted to you on numerous occasions. The one you said you had 'no time' to read despite being online for the last hour and responding regularly to posts.

    I didnt say i've no time to read the article, I've read it - I said I've no time to go through the 7 points ...which I dont.
    As you can see I've spent the best part of one hour trying to explain 1 point to you,( so you can only imagine how long seven is going to take!!! :)),
    that why taking a person who's being involved in a physical altercation to hospital, especially with head injuries, is standard procedure.
    I even quoted the article you posted which admits its common practice to do so. Do you get that?
    Now, you still havent answered my question.. Why was taking wilson to hospital guaranteed to jeopardise any prosecution as you claimed?
    I'd love to know the answer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    Putinovsky wrote: »
    Interesting to note that Wilson started his career in a small police force that was disbanded because it was mired in racist controversies

    and how is that relevant?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,007 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Please learn how to write. Your posts are a consistent mess (apart from the making no sense part). I mean an actual mess.

    i can write thanks. if my posts don't make sense and are a mess its due to the fact you obviously can't read properly. plenty of courses for adults to help them with that problem

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 368 ✭✭Putinovsky


    Beano wrote: »
    and how is that relevant?

    Because the person Wilson shot dead in suspicious circumstances is from the same ethnic group that was the victim of these racist controversies from Wilson's old police force.

    It raises questions about whether Wilson was influenced from his initial years working in what was deemed a racist police force.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Beano wrote: »
    and how is that relevant?

    :pac: they will continue to throw sh1te at the wall to see if it sticks.

    It's a tried and true tactic and one that almost always includes " RAAAACIIIST" in there somewhere :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,007 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Beano wrote: »
    and how is that relevant?
    it further calls him into question

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭nokia69


    they shouldn't as they didn't commit perjury

    yes they did

    most of them had to change their stories when they were shown evidence that 100% proved them to be lying

    but there are other witnesses that backed wilson form the start, their stories have stayed the same since day one, and BTW they are black people who live in the area, its a risk for them to tell the truth, they have nothing to gain and plenty to lose


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