Looting and Rioting in St. Louis (Merged)

Killer Wench · 26-11-2014 05:25PM

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Yes I've read it.
As i said, Its standard procedure to get medically assessed after being involved in a violent confrotation, especially one involving suspected head injuries.
The article even states this "The detective said that while it is common practice to defer to any medical decision of this nature..".

It would also be standard procedure to meet with your superiors after a discharge of a firearm. I dont see anything wrong with either.

Whats your point.

BUT. Wilson said that he didn't need medical assistance. Secondly, they usually defer when there are life-threatening injuries to the officer. The investigator stated that Wilson appeared to be healthy so he could have answered the investigator's questions.

Beano · 26-11-2014 05:25PM

Putinovsky wrote: »

Such brutal strength that he couldn't even fracture Wilson's jaw?

I haven't seen anyone explain why the bruise was on the opposite side of Wilson's face to the side facing the window? That makes no sense.

i've this before and i'll say it again. read the transcript. he had bruises on BOTH sides of his face.

Nerdlingr · 26-11-2014 05:25PM

Putinovsky wrote: »

I haven't seen anyone explain why the bruise was on the opposite side of Wilson's face to the side facing the window? That makes no sense.

It was a scuffle at close proximity. This isnt "my cousin vinny".

Beano · 26-11-2014 05:27PM

Killer Wench wrote: »

All of these missing pieces should have been presented in trial with attorneys having the ability to tear apart Wilson's testimony. It creates a lot of doubt. Did the two senior officers inform Wilson of Brown's suspected robbery? Did they coach Wilson on what to say during the investigation?

OHFFS have you actually read anything about this at all before posting your crap? The reason he stopped brown is BECAUSE of the robbery. He was aware of the robbery. he was aware of what was robbed. He seen the item that was robbed in browns hand.

Putinovsky · 26-11-2014 05:27PM

end of the road wrote: »

your no stranger to condoning savagery yourself.

Yeah funny that he doesn't see the irony in his support of Apartheid in South Africa.

Rubberchikken · 26-11-2014 05:28PM

it's hard to believe which one is worse, an out of control black kid or a police officer whose story wouldn't inspire me.

i think the differances between black and white in that part of usa is too complicated for people here to fully comprehend.

i don't agree with the way the officer behaved or other police employees at the scene etc. it shows a level of 'lets stick together against the enemy' that stinks.

Putinovsky · 26-11-2014 05:28PM

Beano wrote: »

OHFFS have you actually read anything about this at all before posting your crap? The reason he stopped brown is BECAUSE of the robbery. He was aware of the robbery. he was aware of what was robbed. He seen the item that was robbed in browns hand.

LOL. He said he stopped Brown because he was walking down the middle of the street actually!!

end of the road · 26-11-2014 05:28PM

Amazingfun wrote: »

lol.....get honest -you are just happy to find something you think justifies your position from the start.

in fairness you seem to always automatically side with the person who shoots a black person in any of these types of threads.

Nerdlingr · 26-11-2014 05:28PM

Killer Wench wrote: »

BUT. Wilson said that he didn't need medical assistance. Secondly, they usually defer when there are life-threatening injuries to the officer. The investigator stated that Wilson appeared to be healthy so he could have answered the investigator's questions.

As I said, head injuries. Its usually taken out of the person's hands in those circumstances. he might have appeared to be healty but the investigator and wilson himself are not medically able to make that call. Especially when he's about to give a statement - it could have jeprodised the prosecution.. if it had went that far.

Nerdlingr · 26-11-2014 05:30PM

Putinovsky wrote: »

And what about the other points? I don't think you have read it because you are only talking about a small part of the article that another poster had happened to quote. Can you please read the article and respond to each of the points individually?

I havent got the time now, maybe later.

nokia69 · 26-11-2014 05:30PM

end of the road wrote: »

he was murdered. by stating the world is a better place without him you are condoning violence and in turn condoning what it is said he supposibly did. the world isn't a better place without him as people are now engineering situations to have the police come so they can attack them eventually leading to god knows what.

he was NOT murdered you can get all the social justice warriors in the world to claim he was but you can't change the facts

a violent scumbag attacked the police then got shot and died, hard luck

Amazingfun · 26-11-2014 05:32PM

Beano wrote: »

OHFFS have you actually read anything about this at all before posting your crap? The reason he stopped brown is BECAUSE of the robbery. He was aware of the robbery. he was aware of what was robbed. He seen the item that was robbed in browns hand.

I know how you feel. This constant disregard of the facts is more than tiresome.

nokia69 · 26-11-2014 05:32PM

Putinovsky wrote: »

LOL. He said he stopped Brown because he was walking down the middle of the street actually!!

but brown assumed that he was stopped because he robbed the shop a few minutes earlier, which explains the over the top reaction from brown

Putinovsky · 26-11-2014 05:33PM

Nerdlingr wrote: »

As I said, head injuries. Its usually taken out of the person's hands in those circumstances. he might have appeared to be healty but the investigator and wilson himself are not medically able to make that call. Especially when he's about to give a statement - it could have jeprodised the prosecution.. if it had went that far.

LOL I can imagine it now

"By not bringing you right away to hospital there is an absolutely tiny chance that the prosecution could be jeopardized so we are going to do something that guarantees that the prosecution will be jeopardized"

Great logic there pal.

I came across this, interesting stuff http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/intelligence-study-links-prejudice_n_1237796.html

end of the road · 26-11-2014 05:34PM

Putinovsky wrote: »

Yeah funny that he doesn't see the irony in his support of Apartheid in South Africa.

i know. its sickening

Nerdlingr · 26-11-2014 05:35PM

Putinovsky wrote: »

LOL I can imagine it now

"By not bringing you right away to hospital there is an absolutely tiny chance that the prosecution could be jeopardized so we are going to do something that guarantees that the prosecution will be jeopardized"

Great logic there pal.

I came across this, interesting stuff http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/intelligence-study-links-prejudice_n_1237796.html

Which is??
How did they jeopardise the prosecution by bringing him to hospital?

end of the road · 26-11-2014 05:36PM

nokia69 wrote: »

he was NOT murdered you can get all the social justice warriors in the world to claim he was but you can't change the facts

a violent scumbag attacked the police then got shot and died, hard luck

he was murdered, not hard luck at all.

Beano · 26-11-2014 05:36PM

Putinovsky wrote: »

LOL. He said he stopped Brown because he was walking down the middle of the street actually!!

another fool who hasnt read the actual evidence

[QUOTE-FROM THE TRANSCRIPT]
As I approached them, I stopped a
couple feet in front of Johnson as they are walking
towards me, I am going towards them. And I allowed

him to keep walking towards my window, which was

down. As Johnson came around my driver's side

9 mirror I said, "why don't you guys walk on the

10 sidewalk." He kept walking, as he is walking he

11 said, "we are almost to our destination."

12 Do you think he used those words

13 destination, we are almost to our destination?

14 A Yes, ma'am. He said we are almost to our
15 destination and he pointed this direction over my

16 vehicle. So like in a northeasternly (sic)
17 direction. And as he did that, he kept walking and
18 Brown was starting to come around the mirror and as

19 he came around the mirror I said, "well, what's

2O wrong with the sidewalk." Brown then replied, um,
21 it has vulgar languageBrown then replied, "**** what you have to
24 say." And when he said that, it drew my attention

25 totally to Brown. It was a very unusual and not expected response from a simple request. a

When 1 start looking at Brown, first

thing 1 notice is in his right hand, his hand is

full of Cigarillos. And that's when it clicked for
me because I now saw the Cigarillos, I looked in my
mirror, 1 did a doublecheck that Johnson was wearing

a black shirt, these are the two from the stealing.

And they kept walking, as I said,

9 they never once stopped, never got on the sidewalk,
10 they stayed in the middle of the roadradio and Frank 21 is
12 my call sign that day, 1 said Frank 21 I'm on
13 Canfield with two, send me another car.
14 I then placed my car in reverse and
15 backed up and I backed up just past them and then
16 angled my vehicle, the back of my vehicle to kind of
17 cut them off kind to keep them somewhat contained.
18 As I did that, I go to open the door

19 and I say, hey, come here for a minute to Brown. As

20 I'm opening the door he turns, faces me, looks at me
21 and says, "what the **** are you going to do about
22 it", and shuts my door, slammed it shut. I haven't
23 even got it open enough to get my leg out, it was

24 only a few inches.[/QUOTE]

he stopped them because brown had the stolen goods in his hands and his partner matched the description of the suspects. This is not difficult stuff people. this is reading comprehension 101.

Sclosages · 26-11-2014 05:36PM

It does not take 12 bullets to defend yourself. Unless A. You're a bad aim (though he got 12 of them in the victim, so it can't be that), B. You are blindly shooting round after round (in which case - re-****ing-think your career) or C. You really really really wanted to shoot some bullets into some guy.

IF, as a police officer, it takes you 12 bullets to incapacitate an UNARMED civililian, then............... then....... you are going to get a whole lot of people asking a few questions. And a whole lot of people not liking the notion that 12 bullets into an unarmed man was justified and legal.

Fuhrer · 26-11-2014 05:37PM

Sclosages wrote: »

It does not take 12 bullets to defend yourself. Unless A. You're a bad aim (though he got 12 of them in the victim, so it can't be that), B. You are blindly shooting round after round (in which case - re-****ing-think your career) or C. You really really really wanted to shoot some bullets into some guy.

IF, as a police officer, it takes you 12 bullets to incapacitate an UNARMED civililian, then............... then....... you are going to get a whole lot of people asking a few questions. And a whole lot of people not liking the notion that 12 bullets into an unarmed man was justified and legal.

You are aware they dont stand and pose infront of the guy shooting like a training dummy, right?

ebbsy · 26-11-2014 05:38PM

Police officer seemed credible enough to me.........nothing to see here chaps move along.

Beano · 26-11-2014 05:39PM

Sclosages wrote: »

It does not take 12 bullets to defend yourself. Unless A. You're a bad aim (though he got 12 of them in the victim, so it can't be that), B. You are blindly shooting round after round (in which case - re-****ing-think your career) or C. You really really really wanted to shoot some bullets into some guy.

IF, as a police officer, it takes you 12 bullets to incapacitate an UNARMED civililian, then............... then....... you are going to get a whole lot of people asking a few questions. And a whole lot of people not liking the notion that 12 bullets into an unarmed man was justified and legal.

so if he had fired one shot and hit in the head that would have been ok? You've got a 300LB guy running towards you. Counting rounds is not your first priority. and he was hit 6 times not 12.

Another person who wont let facts get in the way of the narrative they wish was true.

darced · 26-11-2014 05:42PM

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BoJack Horseman · 26-11-2014 05:43PM

Fuhrer wrote: »

You are aware they dont stand and pose infront of the guy shooting like a training dummy, right?

No..... They track side to side along rails & are made of cardboard.

Everyone knows that!

end of the road · 26-11-2014 05:43PM

ebbsy wrote: »

Police officer seemed credible enough to me.........nothing to see here chaps move along.

lots to see and we won't be moving on. only the gullible find this officer credible. well thankfully the rest of us have high standards and expect them, rather then blindingly following the word of an officer who's story is being unraveled by the day.

Putinovsky · 26-11-2014 05:44PM

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Which is??
How did they jeopardise the the prosecution by bringing him to hospital?

lol

try read it again there pal.....

26-11-2014 05:44PM

Nerdlingr wrote: »

As I said, head injuries. Its usually taken out of the person's hands in those circumstances. he might have appeared to be healty but the investigator and wilson himself are not medically able to make that call. Especially when he's about to give a statement - it could have jeprodised the prosecution.. if it had went that far.

Shock may have come into it as well. Possibly?

Streetwalker · 26-11-2014 05:45PM

America will never change as a large percentage of the population are racist thugs including most of the police force.

Beano · 26-11-2014 05:45PM

darced wrote: »

This post has been deleted.

do you have a link to this first interview?

Sclosages · 26-11-2014 05:45PM

6 bullets into Brown?
It's not as if he was going at wilson armed and dangerous. 3 bullets. 1 bullet. How many bullets to incapacitate a man? If he was 'charging' perhaps he was falling forward.
I'm sorry, I don't buy it.

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