Is it possible to reserve a certain reg number?

NIMAN · 26-11-2014 12:15pm #1

Was wondering about this, and its cost, after seeing a Saab 95 with a reg 08-xx-95.

Now either that person was incredibly lucky or else they managed to reserve/pay extra for that number?

Is there a market for moving buying/selling numbers in Ireland as in the UK. I know our reg system doesn't allow you to spell out names and the like, but I am sure if you had 12-D-9999 or 12-D-12 you might find a buyer for it.

Anjobe · 26-11-2014 12:22pm

My information may not be up to date, but I think it is possible to reserve a number. So, if you are buying a car next year you could reserve 152-D-X where X is the number of your choice. I think you can only register your car after the normal sequence has passed your reserved number (i.e. if you reserve 1000 you can't register until 999 has been assigned) and you can't then transfer that number to a different car.

H3llR4iser · 26-11-2014 12:25pm

Here you go:
http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/leaflets/reserve-reg-number.html

CathalDublin · 26-11-2014 12:43pm

NIMAN wrote: »

Was wondering about this, and its cost, after seeing a Saab 95 with a reg 08-xx-95.

Now either that person was incredibly lucky or else they managed to reserve/pay extra for that number?

Is there a market for moving buying/selling numbers in Ireland as in the UK. I know our reg system doesn't allow you to spell out names and the like, but I am sure if you had 12-D-9999 or 12-D-12 you might find a buyer for it.

you can reserve a number plate when you are registering the car.
Most 911's I've seen around have 911 in the number plate somewhere.
You can't sell on a number plate though, so the number plate assigned to car is there to stay.

vandriver · 26-11-2014 12:44pm

There used to be loads of cars with a relevant number,because iirc the fee used to be around €200.The government then put that up to a grand and effectively killed the practice.

NIMAN · 26-11-2014 12:50pm

Thanks folks.

€1k to reserve a number!

JimsAlterEgo · 26-11-2014 12:53pm

what happens if 2 people want same number?

Big Nasty · 26-11-2014 1:03pm

JimsAlterEgo wrote: »

what happens if 2 people want same number?

First come first served

bazz26 · 26-11-2014 1:12pm

It used to be around €300 afaik, then the geniuses that run the country decided to up it to €1k a few years back.

biko · 26-11-2014 2:00pm

JimsAlterEgo wrote: »

what happens if 2 people want same number?

Kenny Logins · 26-11-2014 2:01pm

JimsAlterEgo wrote: »

what happens if 2 people want same number?

Seriously?

Truckermal · 26-11-2014 2:09pm

Kenny Logins wrote: »

Seriously?

It's not impossible that two people might want 911 after buying one but ya unlikely. When I win the euro millions it will be a new S8 with 58 on the number plate..

boombang · 26-11-2014 2:10pm

While I don't think it should be free setting it at €1,000 is completely stupid. They're missing out on loads of revenue that people might pay for marginally interesting or relevant numbers. They should have an auction system whereby you can bid off against each other. Let lads pay big money for 911, but others might just want 525 or 1111.

My favourite numberplate of this ilk is the Lexus LS that somebody registered in Laois as number 430.

I've also seen a fellow with a V8 Triumph on a ZV plate including the number 8 re-spaced so it reads something like "Z V8 123"

There's select number of car nerds out there to appreciate that sort of thing.

Big Nasty · 26-11-2014 2:28pm

Truckermal wrote: »

It's not impossible that two people might want 911 after buying one but ya unlikely. When I win the euro millions it will be a new S8 with 58 on the number plate..

I think he meant 'are you seriously asking that question!

JimsAlterEgo · 26-11-2014 2:43pm

Big Nasty wrote: »

I think he meant 'are you seriously asking that question!

it should mention in the guidelines what happen? do you lose your grand (which you do if you dont want it after paying)

Kenny Logins · 26-11-2014 2:53pm

JimsAlterEgo wrote: »

it should mention in the guidelines what happen? do you lose your grand (which you do if you dont want it after paying)

Yeah, OK, fair point.

I'd assume the application is returned with the fee, but can't rule out 100% them giving you the next number. 912 :pac:

hi5 · 26-11-2014 3:11pm

Kenny Logins wrote: »

Yeah, OK, fair point.

I'd assume the application is returned with the fee, but can't rule out 100% them giving you the next number. 912

Now that would be funny, on your new GT3:D

Toyotafanboi · 26-11-2014 3:11pm

isn't it JJ Kavanaghs buses that usually reserve all the "1" number plates because his buses are number one on the road?

havn't encountered one in ages, but years ago you'd see them with all the sequences of 1 booked out like x-x-1, x-x-11, x-x-111, x-x-1111 etc. maybe it was the upping the price that made them think twice?

two years ago ms. fanbois parents didn't reserve or pay for it and accidentally got x-x-1 in our county, was pretty cool.

Kenny Logins · 26-11-2014 3:15pm

hi5 wrote: »

Now that would be funny, on your new GT3:D

It could spell COCK P155 and I wouldn't be bothered. I have a new GT3, and you don't. :P

porsche boy · 26-11-2014 3:23pm

Truckermal wrote: »

...When I win the euro millions it will be a new S8 with 58 on the number plate..

I know one of the owners of Manhattan Popcorn has this one on a white S8. They sponsored the cannonball run this year and had it all sticker ed up.

Anjobe · 26-11-2014 4:13pm

OSI wrote: »

Wonder what the highest number you can reserve is. Would love 911673

Well given that you can't register a car with a reserved number until the normal sequence has reached that number, you could be waiting years until enough people have imported cars from that year before you can actually register and use your new car!

kdevitt · 26-11-2014 4:19pm

You can only do it for new registrations now - they've stopped allowing people do it for used imports by all accounts.

bazz26 · 26-11-2014 5:44pm

Personalized plates are a very nice money earner for the DVLA in the UK. Revenue could have been onto a nice little earner here if they had a similar setup and kept the price reasonable. It would be kinda nice to have a personalized plate here that you can transfer over every time you change cars.

ofcork · 26-11-2014 8:11pm

There was/is a few around cork 04 C 55 an SL55 AMG and a clk 200 with a 65 amg badge regged as 07 C 65,some of the plates in the uk have gone for 250k!

TCP/IP · 26-11-2014 9:25pm

I had 05 D 10555 on my CLK 55 AMG thought it was a great reg.

galwaytt · 27-11-2014 8:15pm

OSI wrote: »

Wonder what the highest number you can reserve is. Would love 911673

08C673 has been done. ....Red GT3 in Cork. ...

galwaytt · 27-11-2014 8:19pm

kdevitt wrote: »

You can only do it for new registrations now - they've stopped allowing people do it for used imports by all accounts.

Nope. If the number is available you can have it.

I know someone who got a 911 plate with no charge as for some reason it had never been claimed. ..on an import.

80sDiesel · 03-10-2021 10:06am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/93196427#Comment_93196427

I know it’s an old thread but was trying to find this answer out.

if it’s first come first served, how does one try to be the first to submit the application, Do 911 owners queue outside revenue;)

dudley72 · 03-10-2021 10:13am

2-300 quid loads of people would do and would expect to turn a profit, 1k nobody will bother

I expect some person was doing loads of them and complained and the answer was to try charge them for 1 person salary plus a profit, hence the 1k

Montage of Feck · 03-10-2021 10:18am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/93196427#Comment_93196427

The thunderdome!

03-10-2021 10:30am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/93196427#Comment_93196427

Pretty sure it creates a paradox and the universe ends.

Yeah, I imagine the UK equivalent makes good money on their system. But, our reg system is so regimented, anything personalised would stand out a mile.

Glaceon · 03-10-2021 10:49am

Dublin Bus used to reserve reg numbers to match the fleet number of the bus. They've all been random since 2012 because of the tax hike.

Speedline · 03-10-2021 3:06pm

We picked up a Volvo 245 estate a number of years ago with the reg 89 xx 245. 2 weeks later it was stripped and entered into a banger race up the North where it was wrecked! 😁

beachhead · 03-10-2021 3:52pm

Specific number requests must be made to your local motor tax office in September of the previous year.Not sure if Shannon Tax Office has any imput.For 2022 reg your application must in during Sept '21.

Buddy Bubs · 03-10-2021 7:05pm

Had 5231 on an e60 523i up to a few years ago. Presumed original owner paid for that. Doesn't add value because I bought it for peanuts and sold it for less

colm_mcm · 03-10-2021 7:43pm

If more than one person wants to reserve the same number, there’s a ‘lottery’, but it’s not an instant thing, can’t remember the ins and outs of it, but you could reserve the number and then not get it. You used to be able to reserve a number in the November of the year before, not sure how it works now with the dual reg, probably from 1st of May for 212 regs for example.

Del2005 · 03-10-2021 10:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117969926#Comment_117969926

I could have xxx-x-335 as a personalised reg and only a few people would know, but not for €1k. I wonder would the let someone reserve xxx-x-3825968

Wishbone Ash · 03-10-2021 11:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117969859#Comment_117969859

It's not 'first come first served'. If 2 or more apply for the same number, the 'winner' is draw from a hat as such. Those who are unsuccessful have their €1,000 refunded. Lots of people will apply for the first number in certain counties for example (i.e. those counties where the first number is not assigned automatically to the mayor).

CiniO · 04-10-2021 1:06am

I still can't understand reasons they don't allow personalised plates.

Like 221-D-PADDY for some fella wishing to have his name on a plate,

or 12-DL-AMG for newly imported Merc to Donegal.

I'm pretty sure people would pay thousand for that, so it would be money maker for revenue.

Btw - personalised plates in the UK are not really personalised. They are just whatever insteresting combination of numbers/letters plate was ever issued that makes some sense to someone (initial, name, etc) and this can be resold. It's not personalised in pure sense though like being able to choose your own wording for it.

Peregrinus · 04-10-2021 2:36am

Well, yeah. The public interest here is revenue maximisation, obviously. The more you charge for elective number plates, the fewer people will apply for one, but the more profitable each application will be, plus fewer people applying means the overheads of administering the system are lower. Somewhere in there is a "sweet spot" for the reservation price which will make revenue from the operation exceed the costs of administration by a greater amount than any other reservation price would. Impossible to know what that is, without a lot more information than we have. But it is certainly a price higher than the one which would maximise the number of reservation applications.

zg3409 · 04-10-2021 8:26pm

The Gardai said they prefer the nnn D nnn format as after hit and runs witnesses often say it's a blue Mondeo 08 Dublin reg, and this narrows down their search massively versus say zg3409 where at a glance the average punter might get a letter or two but may not be much use.

In terms of reserving numbers some people don't reserve a number, and hope no-one else does. Then they register their car as early as possible (I think new years eve) using a dealer booking system. In smaller counties it can be easy to get DL 1 or at least low numbers, for free, but higher numbers such as 55 you might need to keep waiting or know someone on the inside to snag it when it comes up for free.

I think it's crazy in this day and age they don't have at least a bidding system say min 200 euro, max what you like with deadline of December 15th, so premium numbers will go above 1000 euro and enthusiasts will get low numbers. They used to reserve the first 100 or 200 numbers for paying customers only, but gave up with many went unused, so low numbers can be had for free instead!

Wishbone Ash · 04-10-2021 10:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117972892#Comment_117972892

I like to think they don't allow it's because it tacky in the extreme.

Sam Russell · 05-10-2021 12:29pm

I think the UK system was designed to maximise personal number plates.

They even have devised a conversion of numbers to letters - 3 = E, 5 = S, 2 = Z, and so on. They have 7 characters with 3rd and 4th are numbers. With so many letters, it is easy to get many names and words out of the format.

Personally, I would hate an easily recognisable number plate. Could not go anywhere without some **** recognising the car.

zg3409 · 12-10-2021 4:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117978891#Comment_117978891

In Germany you typically get sand number plate for life, for all your cars. They aren't custom nor reserveable as far as I know, but if you change county/state you get a new one. Often people put it up on the wall next to their parking spot, and any other car in spot automatically gets towed away. People get to know your reg, which is good for spotting out of town or suspicious cars on your street. It does reduce anonymity.

In Ireland they should at least allow people to change county on used cars, such as a kerry reg for a Dublin owner.

Sam Russell · 12-10-2021 4:31pm

I think the ZV number plates require a rethink.

They should not apply to any car registered after 1987 when the current system was started.

They could then start with AZV xxx, BZV xxx, restricting the numeric part to three digits.

Rowley Birkin QC · 13-10-2021 4:04pm

I have 02-MO-320 which (annoyingly) is a 318i rather than a 320i.

It was apparently a BMW demo car originally. I've toyed with the idea of an engine swap for the 2.2 that came in the 320i just to square that particular detail away!🙃

Is it possible to reserve a certain reg number?

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