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What does middle class and working class mean to you personally?

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  • #32
    DeadHand
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    There is a commonly held myth that we don't have a class system in Ireland which is rubbish- we certainly have.

    It's not as well defined or relevant as the class system in the UK and it's a good deal more fluid but it exists nonetheless.


  • #33
    WesternZulu
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    DeadHand wrote: »
    There is a commonly held myth that we don't have a class system in Ireland which is rubbish- we certainly have.

    It's not as well defined or relevant as the class system in the UK and it's a good deal more fluid but it exists nonetheless.

    You're right.

    You're classed either as a bogger or a townie...lines get blurred at times but it's one or the other.

    I'm in the bogger class myself!


  • #34
    steddyeddy
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    Hoop66 wrote: »
    It's easy:

    Middle class - BBC/RTE1
    Working Class - ITV/TV3

    I would actually agree with that apart from RTE.


  • #35
    Shenshen
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    It doesn't mean anything at all to me.
    Snobbery is pretty much centered exclusively on education where I'm from - you look up to people with better education/more knowledge than you, and if you were that way inclined might sneer at people with lower levels of education. Background doesn't come into it at all.

    I keep having arguments about that with my English husband any time we watch University Challenge. He gets seriously annoyed by all the "posh twats" from Cambridge and Oxford, whereas I simply don't see any difference between them and the team from Manchester...


  • #36
    Robsweezie
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    ugly divisive terms used as a stick to beat less well off people with


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  • #37
    RobertKK
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    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Farmers shovel **** and slog through manual labour and they also own land and employ others

    Find a class for that hah! :p

    I say it is farming class. A class some urban people really dislike, mostly working class who probably aren't working and votes for the Socialist party and thinks farmers are too wealthy because of their land and farming assets even though these are the tools for his/her work.


  • #38
    Pocoyo
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    The class system means little to me,Even if this government is intent on starting a 'Class war'

    The failures of FG has seen the equality gap widen in this country so this 'class' malarkey is becoming more apparent.

    I believe it really came to fore when Joan Burton started attacking 'dole scroungers' at a time when there was only one job vacancy for every 25 people.


  • #39
    smcgiff
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    Robsweezie wrote: »
    ugly divisive terms used as a stick to beat less well off people with

    I'd say you hear more people calling themselves 'Working Class' and proud, more often than you'd hear others.


  • #40
    Pocoyo
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    This guy is a 'class-act'


  • #41
    Ush1
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    Lower class - Living in council estate, welfare recipients
    Upper lower class - Homeowner in council estate, work
    Middle class - Live in private estate, work, not new car
    Upper middle class - Live in desirable area but standard enough house, often upgrade car, may be older type people
    Upper class - Live in desirable area with large house, business owners, new cars(don't upgrade like upper middle class as not a big deal)

    I think when it comes to access to education the main difference is private/rugby schools at secondary level. Third level I think most people of any class have access to it(state funded possibly).


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  • #42
    jimgoose
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    Ush1 wrote: »
    ...Upper class - Live in desirable area with large house, business owners, new cars...

    I was more-or-less with you up to this. Real upper-class types know what money is all about, and don't spend it on stupid crap.


  • #43
    Ush1
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    jimgoose wrote: »
    I was more-or-less with you up to this. Real upper-class types know what money is all about, and don't spend it on stupid crap.

    You're right there. I was gonna add, don't upgrade cars like the upper middle class.


  • #44
    jimgoose
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    Ush1 wrote: »
    You're right there. I was gonna add, don't upgrade cars like the upper middle class.

    Money makes everything cheaper. My grandmother put it like this: A toff will spend £200 on boots that will last him for twenty years. A poor man will buy boots for £20 that he'll have to replace every year.


  • #45
    Pocoyo
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    jimgoose wrote: »
    Money makes everything cheaper. My grandmother put it like this: A toff will spend £200 on boots that will last him for twenty years. A poor man will buy boots for £20 that he'll have to replace every year.


    How often will the 'toff' wear those boots?


  • #46
    jimgoose
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    Pocoyo wrote: »
    How often will the 'toff' wear those boots?

    Every day. They cost £200, that's what they're for. He'll also have a boot-room inside the back door to keep them in. The poor person will have a patio there instead, paid for by the Credit Union. :D


  • #47
    smcgiff
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    Pocoyo wrote: »
    How often will the 'toff' wear those boots?

    Not so much...


  • #48
    Pocoyo
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    jimgoose wrote: »
    Every day. They cost £200, that's what they're for. He'll also have a boot-room inside the back door to keep them in. The poor person will have a patio there instead, paid for by the Credit Union. :D

    Luckily the 'lower classes' share their wealth to keep the economy ticking these classes you speak of seem to be misers. :D


  • #49
    jimgoose
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    Pocoyo wrote: »
    Luckily the 'lower classes' share their wealth to keep the economy ticking these classes you speak of seem to be misers. :D

    They're more inclined to use the word "frugal", but yeah. :pac:


  • #50
    Ush1
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    jimgoose wrote: »
    Money makes everything cheaper. My grandmother put it like this: A toff will spend £200 on boots that will last him for twenty years. A poor man will buy boots for £20 that he'll have to replace every year.

    Yep, owner of my pace is extremely wealthy. Drives a top of the line Merc but its a 2007. He's just too busy to be upgrading very often.


  • #51
    jimgoose
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    Ush1 wrote: »
    Yep, owner of my pace is extremely wealthy. Drives a top of the line Merc but its a 2007. He's just too busy to be upgrading very often.

    Bingo. He bought one that suited him, and that would continue to suit him and do the job for a long time, and expense be buggered. That much being done, he gets on with everything else. :cool:


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  • #52
    Pocoyo
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    mikemac1 wrote: »
    In my office building I used to see the top guys going around with a Nokia 6310i


    Yeah back in 19 hundred and two.


  • #53
    steddyeddy
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    I say it is farming class. A class some urban people really dislike, mostly working class who probably aren't working and votes for the Socialist party and thinks farmers are too wealthy because of their land and farming assets even though these are the tools for his/her work.

    Farmers are some of the hardest working people out there.


  • #54
    jimgoose
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    Pocoyo wrote: »
    Yeah back in 19 hundred and two.

    Would you believe I still use one in the car-cradle in my Jaguar?? :pac:


  • #55
    whisky_galore
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    Kevin McCloud wrote: »
    There is no classes in the graveyard.

    People with big headstones are upper class....or travellers.


  • #56
    KomradeBishop
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  • #57
    nadey
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    Middle class and d4 heads are just spongers off mommy and daddy


  • #58
    Barely There
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    Working class people are paid weekly as they are unable to budget properly.

    Middle class people get a monthly salary.


  • #59
    nadey
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    Barely There wrote: »
    Working class people are paid weekly as they are unable to budget properly.

    Middle class people get a monthly salary.

    Middle classclass are born with silver spoons in their mouths. Working class kids have to actually work like mad to get by


  • #60
    smcgiff
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    nadey wrote: »
    Middle class and d4 heads are just spongers off mommy and daddy

    That's as bad as saying the working class and Tallaght residents are dole spongers.


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  • #61
    McGrath5
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    Jesus its frightening how judgmental people can be.


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