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Looting and Rioting in St. Louis (Merged)

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  • #782
    Amazingfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    I think its far more likely that Brown ignored Wilson, punched him, threw him off him and small man Wilson upset and feeling humiliated took out his gun and shot him.

    Again: the physical evidence confirms Wilson's account. So it doesn't matter what narrative you construct in your head-you're wrong.


  • #783
    Sclosages
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Again: the physical evidence confirms Wilson's account. So it doesn't matter what narrative you construct in your head-you're wrong.
    Well we don't have Brown's account do we? He didn't live to tell the tale.


  • #784
    Amazingfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Sclosages wrote: »
    Well we don't have Brown's account do we? He didn't live to tell the tale.

    Thanks to forensics we all tell a tale. Dead or alive.


  • #785
    Sclosages
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Thanks to forensics we all tell a tale. Dead or alive.

    Ye - so page 119 - what was on the top of the page?


  • #786
    Amazingfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Sclosages wrote: »
    Ye - so page 119 - what was on the top of the page?

    10 minutes ago you stated you didn't know enough to make a call on this case....and now suddenly you're hosting quizzes on it?

    :pac: have a nice day!


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  • #787
    Sclosages
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    10 minutes ago you stated you didn't know enough to make a call on this case....and now suddenly you're hosting quizzes on it?

    :pac: have a nice day!

    I thought you were an expert.


  • #788
    Putinovsky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 368 ✭✭Putinovsky


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Thanks to forensics we all tell a tale. Dead or alive.

    Forensics don't tell everything actually. Forensics don't say that Brown went for Wilson's gun.

    Wilson's initial statement was that actually the main reason he shot Brown was because after being punched he was afraid of getting hit again. Then it changed to 'Brown was trying to get my gun'

    The guy didn't even sustain a fracture, he must be some coward to take out a gun and shoot someone 12 times for getting punched. Like I said he should never have been a police officer and wouldn't survive a week in the Gardai without his gun.


  • #789
    Amazingfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Sclosages wrote: »
    I thought you were an expert.

    I never said anything of the sort.
    I did however follow the case as it went along and spent time reading up on it before getting shouty on threads such as this. You ought to give that a whirl next time ;)


  • #790
    Sclosages
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    Btw - I would hate to think of Wilson going back to his day job.


  • #791
    Sclosages
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    Though he may be acquitted of murder, I suspect his reaction was not exactly exemplary.


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  • #792
    Sclosages
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    Amazingfun wrote: »
    I never said anything of the sort.
    I did however follow the case as it went along and spent time reading up on it before getting shouty on threads such as this. You ought to give that a whirl next time ;)

    Ah - sure I thought you had read the transcripts....


  • #793
    Amazingfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Putinovsky wrote: »
    Forensics don't tell everything actually. Forensics don't say that Brown went for Wilson's gun.

    Wilson's initial statement was that actually the main reason he shot Brown was because after being punched he was afraid of getting hit again. Then it changed to 'Brown was trying to get my gun'

    The guy didn't even sustain a fracture, he must be some coward to take out a gun and shoot someone 12 times for getting punched. Like I said he should never have been a police officer and wouldn't survive a week in the Gardai without his gun.

    Yes forensics do confirm Brown went for his gun.

    You simply refuse to deal with the physical evidence. Not sure why but hey- enjoy yourself!


  • #794
    Carlos Orange
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭Carlos Orange


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Yes forensics do confirm Brown went for his gun.

    You simply refuse to deal with the physical evidence. Not sure why but hey- enjoy yourself!

    Tribal political narratives are way more powerful than evidence.


  • #795
    Sclosages
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Yes forensics do confirm Brown went for his gun.

    You simply refuse to deal with the physical evidence. Not sure why but hey- enjoy yourself!

    From blood on the gun. If someone had shot me I'd attempt to disarm them too!


  • #796
    Sclosages
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    psinno wrote: »
    Tribal political narratives are way more powerful than evidence.

    Tribal political narratives? What's that now?


  • #797
    Amazingfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Sclosages wrote: »
    Ah - sure I thought you had read the transcripts....

    YOU are the one who said you didn't know enough to make a call. Should you not be playing catch up instead of trying (and failing) to "get" me lol ?
    The Grand Jury only concluded their investigation yesterday night but yes indeed many of us have had a good gander at its contents.

    NYT has it up for anyone interested:

    http://graphics8.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/11/24/ferguson-assets/grand-jury-testimony.pdf


  • #798
    Putinovsky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 368 ✭✭Putinovsky


    Sclosages wrote: »
    From blood on the gun. If someone had shot me I'd attempt to disarm them too!

    Blood can splatter everywhere. Were Brown's fingerprints actually found on the gun??


  • #799
    Sclosages
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    Putinovsky wrote: »
    Blood can splatter everywhere. Were Brown's fingerprints actually found on the gun??
    No - just his blood as far as I'm aware - but I'm open to correction.


  • #800
    Amazingfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    psinno wrote: »
    Tribal political narratives are way more powerful than evidence.

    :pac: seems so.


  • #801
    Sclosages
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    Putinovsky wrote: »
    Blood can splatter everywhere. Were Brown's fingerprints actually found on the gun??

    This seemed to be a massive piece of 'proof' though. Whether his fingerprints were on the gun or not, is not proof of intent to kill Wilson.


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  • #802
    Amazingfun
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    Sclosages wrote: »
    From blood on the gun. If someone had shot me I'd attempt to disarm them too!

    Not what happened. Seriously: get a clue.


  • #803
    Sclosages
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Not what happened. Seriously: get a clue.

    Ok - perhaps you can enlighten us as to the evidence? You're the expert! You've followed this case etc........


  • #804
    Amazingfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Sclosages wrote: »
    Ok - perhaps you can enlighten us as to the evidence? You're the expert! You've followed this case etc........

    No. You can do some work :)


  • #805
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    MOD

    Keep it civil please.


  • #806
    Grand Moff Tarkin
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    A lot of crazy comments in this thread from people who lack basic knowledge on the inner workings of that part of the USA.


  • #807
    BeerWolf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    Any reason to get a free stuff via looting - A lot of Rioters couldn't give two ****s about the kid that was killed, they're just out there to cause trouble and steal stuff using the chaos as cover to hide themselves, completely ignoring the wishes of the kid's parents wishing people to not do this.

    Scum of society.


  • #808
    Sclosages
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    BeerWolf wrote: »
    Any reason to get a free stuff via looting - A lot of Rioters couldn't give two ****s about the kid that was killed, they're just out there to cause trouble and steal stuff using the chaos as cover to hide themselves, completely ignoring the wishes of the kid's parents wishing people to not do this.

    Scum of society.

    what about the other majority?


  • #809
    BeerWolf
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    Sclosages wrote: »
    what about the other majority?

    I was talking about the looters and rioters setting cars on fire and such...


  • #810
    Sclosages
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    BeerWolf wrote: »
    I was talking about the looters and rioters setting cars on fire and such...

    But what do you think of the vast majority of protestors?


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  • #811
    Uncle Ruckus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Uncle Ruckus


    Can't blame them really. In certain parts of 'Murica blacks genuinely are second class citizens. It wasn't that long ago they had segregation and certain elements were up in arms when JFK was elected President because we wasn't a Protestant. Uber religious, yet ironically uber greedy, virtually no public health service and a complete lack of knowledge of the outside world; America is a bit of a sh1te hole to be honest.


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