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The Bike Scheme thread

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  • #202
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,180 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    thesandeman wrote: »
    The Prospect Hill one seems to be taking shape.
    Seems a bit silly to put it outside a pub though.

    Ya, I'm sure the lads delivering kegs are delighted. But they might just have the technology to ensure it's moved soon enough.


  • #203
    thesandeman
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    The lads in Ar Do Rothar a few doors down won't be too pleased either. They rent out bikes.


  • #204
    cgcsb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,812 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    Interesting. However, extremely disappointing that Dublin bikes remains isolated from the other schemes and from leap, despite both leap and bike sharing starting in the capital in the first place. I wonder in the future will the proposed Belfast scheme be integrated with Dublin/Cork/Limerick/Galway. Also will Waterford and the larger towns be added at some stage.


  • #205
    ratracer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭ratracer


    J o e wrote: »
    It really is for short term rental, on that pricing structure a 24hr rental would cost €86.50 :rolleyes: (Edit: I know, it's meant as a bike share scheme not bike rental)

    I assume there'll be a lot of frequent checking in and out for anyone that's touring around the city for the day.

    That's the whole idea, you use it for a short hop, park it, take another one when you need it. All you have to do is swop you're bike at a station if you want to keep hold of one.


  • #206
    joeKel73
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭joeKel73


    https://www.bikeshare.ie/galway wrote:
    For Leisure

    For shopping, sports or a healthy and fun family cycle use Coca-Cola Zero® Bikes to get around your city. Cycle from anywhere in the city to Galway Shopping Centre, the Sportsground, Salthill Promenade or simply head to your favorite café in the city centre. Simple.

    Does the office down in Wexford know where the Salthill Promenade is?


  • #207
    Iwannahurl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    simply head to your favorite café in the city centre


    What about, say, cycling from the bike station beside the library in St Augustine Street to Park House on Forster Street?

    Or Bowling Green to Sheridan's on Churchyard Street, before heading down to Ard Bia?

    Or from Eyre Square to City Hall, and from there back to the library?

    Simple, necessarily?


  • #208
    galwaycyclist
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭galwaycyclist


    Piece about it in today's Examiner

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/bikeshare-scheme-preparations-go-up-a-gear-as-launch-nears-297390.html


  • #209
    what_traffic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,069 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Galway City Council have the same PR on its Website as well:
    http://www.galwaycity.ie/news/131/59/The-Coca-Cola-Zero-Bikes-are-Coming-to-Galway-Cork-and-Limerick-Launch-Dates-Announced/

    Pictures of the bikes on the prom as well


  • #210
    Iwannahurl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Pre-register and receive a special offer price of €5 on an annual subscription. This special offer extends to the end of 2014.

    I'm a bit confused by this.

    Are they requiring that an annual subscription be paid to use the bikes until the end of this year?

    Does the special offer price make that worthwhile?


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  • #211
    cgcsb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,812 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    I'm a bit confused by this.

    Are they requiring that an annual subscription be paid to use the bikes until the end of this year?

    Does the special offer price make that worthwhile?

    It's one year from the date you get it, not a calendar year.


  • #212
    Iwannahurl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    cgcsb wrote: »
    It's one year from the date you get it, not a calendar year.


    Doh. I misread it altogether.


  • #213
    inisboffin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,395 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    Doh. I misread it altogether.

    Nah, it could be clearer :)


  • #214
    what_traffic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,069 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    One downside is that you cannot add the Dublinbikes to your card. You can add Limerick and Cork which is good.

    Also the maps on the Website are not correct. They still include the University Rd and Tourist Office station.


  • #215
    ratracer
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    Future headline predictor:

    Near future - 'Cllr's welcome GalwayBike Scheme, will boost tourism'

    Not too distant future - 'Cllr's slam irresponsible bike users - Someone is going to get hurt!!!'

    By the end of next summer - 'Cllr's demand more policing of GalwayBike users'

    Followed by - 'Cllr's demand bikes be removed from streets, claims they were never told about them before this!'


  • #216
    what_traffic
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    ratracer wrote: »
    Future headline predictor:

    Near future - 'Cllr's welcome GalwayBike Scheme, will boost tourism'

    Not too distant future - 'Cllr's slam irresponsible bike users - Someone is going to get hurt!!!'

    By the end of next summer - 'Cllr's demand more policing of GalwayBike users'

    Followed by - 'Cllr's demand bikes be removed from streets, claims they were never told about them before this!'

    You hit the nail on the head. Read todays so called Editorial in the Galway Advertiser for similar themes..


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  • #217
    Iwannahurl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    I wouldn't call that an editorial.

    That particular columnist seems to regard his own weekly witterings as witty commentary on life as we know it. He could do with an editor. Oh wait...


  • #218
    what_traffic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,069 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    How many docking stations have the City Council in their supreme wisdom decided to plonk down on existing Bike Parking stands? Mainguard St and Eyre Sq are two locations? Others?


  • #219
    galwaycyclist
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭galwaycyclist


    what_traffic wrote: »
    How many docking stations have the City Council in their supreme wisdom decided to plonk down on existing Bike Parking stands? Mainguard St and Eyre Sq are two locations? Others?

    Well they removed bike parking from Raven Terrace on the grounds that they were putting in a bikeshare stand in that space - and then changed the location of the bikeshare stand without reinstating the bike parking.

    Also where is the bike stand station going down at GTI? (I dont know - genuine question.)


  • #220
    ratracer
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    galwaycyclist wrote: »
    Well they removed bike parking from Raven Terrace on the grounds that they were putting in a bikeshare stand in that space - and then changed the location of the bikeshare stand without reinstating the bike parking.

    Also where is the bike stand station going down at GTI? (I dont know - genuine question.)

    There is a bike parking stand, but not a GalwayBike station beside the gate of GTI


  • #221
    what_traffic
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    galwaycyclist wrote: »
    Also where is the bike stand station going down at GTI? (I dont know - genuine question.)

    I believe it is going to replace the bike parking stands that ratracer mentions. The original place for the bike docking station was the green triangle in front of the GTI but it has now been changed. Those bike parking stands the docking station is replacing should be in the grounds of GTI itself - would be the logical place for them.


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  • #222
    Poxyshamrock
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    Less than a week to go! Are all the stations in place now?


  • #223
    galwaycyclist
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    what_traffic wrote: »
    I believe it is going to replace the bike parking stands that ratracer mentions. The original place for the bike docking station was the green triangle in front of the GTI but it has now been changed. Those bike parking stands the docking station is replacing should be in the grounds of GTI itself - would be the logical place for them.

    Yep I passed there last night. There is a fence up around the bike parking. I have a recollection of someone telling me that the person in charge of the GTI will not agree to the installation of bike parking on the grounds and this is why that bike rack is outside. Can anyone confirm that there is no bike parking in the GTI?


  • #224
    what_traffic
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    galwaycyclist wrote: »
    Yep I passed there last night. There is a fence up around the bike parking. I have a recollection of someone telling me that the person in charge of the GTI will not agree to the installation of bike parking on the grounds and this is why that bike rack is outside. Can anyone confirm that there is no bike parking in the GTI?

    What an educated educator!


  • #225
    antoobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    what_traffic wrote: »
    What an educated educator!

    Probably to do with public liability insurance.


  • #226
    what_traffic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,069 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    antoobrien wrote: »
    Probably to do with public liability insurance.

    What do you mean?


  • #227
    antoobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    what_traffic wrote: »
    What do you mean?

    It's potentially bringing people on site that are not actually travelling to GTI. That would have an adverse effect on their public liability insurance.


  • #228
    what_traffic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,069 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    antoobrien wrote: »
    It's potentially bringing people on site that are not actually travelling to GTI. That would have an adverse effect on their public liability insurance.

    We are just talking about regular Bike parking for the patrons of the Educational Institution in question the GTI. Not a bikeshare docking station.


  • #229
    antoobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    what_traffic wrote: »
    We are just talking about regular Bike parking for the patrons of the Educational Institution in question the GTI. Not a bikeshare docking station.

    Then one would suggest that the discussion is OT and belongs on the cycling in Galway thread.


  • #230
    what_traffic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,069 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    antoobrien wrote: »
    Then one would suggest that the discussion is OT and belongs on the cycling in Galway thread.

    But that is not the case here if the Bike Docking Station is removing regular bike parking that was provided for GTI patrons then it is fair observation to ask were this bike parking should now be provided?


  • #231
    antoobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    what_traffic wrote: »
    But that is not the case here if the Bike Docking Station is removing regular bike parking that was provided for GTI patrons then it is fair observation to ask were this bike parking should now be provided?

    I refer you to post #229.


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  • #232
    what_traffic
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    antoobrien wrote: »
    I refer you to post #229.

    I refer you to post #230. Cycling around in circles we are now! Ha ha


  • #233
    galwaycyclist
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭galwaycyclist


    So anyway, as far as we can establish, Galway City Council's implementation of the Bikeshare scheme is resulting in the removal of 40 to 50 bike parking spaces (possibly more).

    In a city already noted for the general inadequacy of bike parking provision.


  • #234
    what_traffic
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    galwaycyclist wrote: »
    So anyway, as far as we can establish, Galway City Council's implementation of the Bikeshare scheme is resulting in the removal of 40 to 50 bike parking spaces (possibly more).

    In a city already noted for the general inadequacy of bike parking provision.

    Sometimes I don't know whether to laugh or cry when it comes to the City Council.


  • #235
    charlie_says
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    Without reading all the posts here, I don't imagine I would be alone in thinking it's a bit mad not having the bike stations in Salthill and at either end of the promenade?

    Heck they should get some up in Westside around the shopping centres. Also no hard in getting some out in Corrib Village. Or GMIT and the the surrounding area towards town. Plenty of people live up there.

    I suppose this is only phase 1, well hopefully.


  • #236
    galwaycyclist
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭galwaycyclist


    So whats the deal with the EU 150 part of the subscription? On one part of Bikeshare.ie its described as a "guarantee" against the card and on another as a "deposit".

    The first would be a preauthorised payment that does not actually come off your account unless invoked while the other would be a payment taken and held by the operator.

    Also if I read it right do they want a separate guarantee/deposit for each city?


  • #237
    joeKel73
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭joeKel73


    My membership card arrived today!

    I can confirm the 150 isn't taken upfront and there also isn't any funds held against it on the card.


  • #238
    jkforde
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    galwaycyclist wrote: »
    So anyway, as far as we can establish, Galway City Council's implementation of the Bikeshare scheme is resulting in the removal of 40 to 50 bike parking spaces (possibly more). In a city already noted for the general inadequacy of bike parking provision.

    www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=92901337&postcount=191
    the NTA will reimburse the Council for any bike racks removed, up to the Council to use the money to install replacement racks... I'll be getting on to the Council anyhow

    🌦️ 6.7kwp, 45°, SSW, mid-Galway 🌦️

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  • #239
    GekkePrutser
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    charlie_says wrote: »
    Without reading all the posts here, I don't imagine I would be alone in thinking it's a bit mad not having the bike stations in Salthill and at either end of the promenade?

    Heck they should get some up in Westside around the shopping centres. Also no hard in getting some out in Corrib Village. Or GMIT and the the surrounding area towards town. Plenty of people live up there.

    This... I only found out about the scheme this week, but I'm surprised they have all 18(!) stations bunched up in the (tiny) city centre with absolutely none outside.

    In fact walking between the 2 furthest stations (from ICE on the Fr Burke Road to the City Hall) is about 15 minutes. Most stations are only 1-2 minute walk apart. The two at the Spanish arch are right across the road from each other!

    This way it's hardly worth the trouble of taking one (or you end up taking one out for the duration of your visit outside the centre at enormous cost). The whole point of a bike is getting to or from places that are too far to walk.

    There should be some in Knocknacarra, Salthill, Ballybrit, at the major shopping centres etc. It seems like it's only a token effort to show how 'green' Galway is but not a practical alternative to anything.

    I'm waiting for the first city councillor to proclaim in the papers that we all have to bike to work now as they deem adequate facilities to be available :/


  • #240
    thesandeman
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    There's ONE bike attached to one of the stations across from Garvey's tonight. It's red and black so I presume it's a Coke one?


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  • #241
    galwaycyclist
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    jkforde wrote: »
    www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=92901337&postcount=191
    the NTA will reimburse the Council for any bike racks removed, up to the Council to use the money to install replacement racks... I'll be getting on to the Council anyhow

    It would not be the first time the city council executive supposedly had money for cycle parking. Bear in mind also that over the years developments that did not provide bike parking were supposed to pay into a fund so that the city council would provide it instead.

    The council executive have a long history of having money for bike parking but being curiously unable to spend it.

    In short I think a complaint to government TDs might be a better route.


  • #242
    _Puma_
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    I see from the Galway advertiser the new bikes are in. From the pictures it seems the have replaced 2 of the normal bike racks in the square with these things. Used to always cycle into town and lock the bike in the square. They would always be full with 2 bikes per rack this time of year so I'm really struggling to figure out what genius though it would be a good idea to take out some of the existing racks.


  • #243
    Iwannahurl
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    One of the bike stations was reportedly struck by a car in the last few days. Three stands damaged. I'm not sure which one was hit.


  • #244
    Ruben Remus
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    It's madness that the scheme doesn't include areas like Salthill. Good to see the national media picking up on that: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/transport-minister-fails-to-explain-why-popular-seaside-destination-salthill-is-not-part-of-galway-bikes-scheme-30768844.html


  • #245
    Sniipe
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    Personally, I think
    2 are needed in Salthill (one either end of the prom)
    1 is needed in the Galway Shopping center
    1 is needed in GMIT
    1 is needed out by Dangan
    1 is needed beside corrib village
    1 is needed in or around Terryland
    Some are needed in Knocknacarra
    1 in Westside shopping center

    I wonder will it expand?


  • #246
    dloob
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    I was in town for lunch and saw them.
    A few people in coke zero jackets became the first to cycle them down shop street.
    Looking at the stations, for the one at the advertiser at least, the main problem will be having enough room to actually remove a bike from the racks with the illegally park cars that are almost touching their back wheels.


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  • #247
    galwayfellaBETA
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭galwayfellaBETA


    Sniipe wrote: »
    Personally, I think
    2 are needed in Salthill (one either end of the prom)
    1 is needed in the Galway Shopping center
    1 is needed in GMIT
    1 is needed out by Dangan
    1 is needed beside corrib village
    1 is needed in or around Terryland
    Some are needed in Knocknacarra
    1 in Westside shopping center

    I wonder will it expand?

    +1

    I love the idea of them. I went to sign up but the stations are way to clustered together. It's pretty much useless in Galway untill they add more stations.

    2 needed in GMIT
    2 in NUIG
    1 near Huntsman.
    2 in Salthill.
    1 Far Salthill.
    1 serving Renmore
    1 for Riverside/Lisbaun
    etc


  • #248
    ArmaniJeanss
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    Sniipe wrote: »
    Personally, I think
    2 are needed in Salthill (one either end of the prom)
    1 is needed in the Galway Shopping center
    1 is needed in GMIT
    1 is needed out by Dangan
    1 is needed beside corrib village
    1 is needed in or around Terryland
    Some are needed in Knocknacarra
    1 in Westside shopping center

    I wonder will it expand?

    Bear in mind you can't have isolated stands (I'm not familiar enough with the geography to know whether your wishes above would lead to such isolated stands), you need to build gradually from a central point, going a maximum 250/300 metres in any direction before putting a stand down.

    So to get to a few points one mile in each direction you increase the amount of stands and bikes needed by an exponential amount.

    I do agree looking at the map on the cokezero website that the initial rollout seems very condensed and not very useful ; seems to be roughly a mere 1300 metres between the two furthest away station.


  • #249
    galwaycyclist
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    dloob wrote: »
    I was in town for lunch and saw them.
    A few people in coke zero jackets became the first to cycle them down shop street.
    Looking at the stations, for the one at the advertiser at least, the main problem will be having enough room to actually remove a bike from the racks with the illegally park cars that are almost touching their back wheels.

    That got a good giggle. So the Coke Zero people started off by cycling down the pedestrian zone?

    I can see Councillor Padraig Conneely Esq, OBE, FTQ being very comfortable with that.

    For the record the Jacobs Report into Bikeshare for cities outside Dublin specifically raised the issue of allowing cycling in pedestrian areas. The way the Shop St pedestrianisation was done was unworkable anyway and this was pointed out at the time.


  • #250
    Mrs OBumble
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    I reckon one near Barna Woods / Silverstrand too as a priority for summer anyway.

    Next priorities, IMHO, are Briarhill, Parkmore, Doughiska Rd (bottom - by Castlegar GAA)


  • #251
    what_traffic
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    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    One of the bike stations was reportedly struck by a car in the last few days. Three stands damaged. I'm not sure which one was hit.

    Do you know which one?


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