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Ultra Discussion Thread

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  • #102
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    menoscemo wrote: »
    GB have a really strong team in for this. Steve Way and Paul martaletti.

    They sure look good. Steve Way is well known, but I also saw Paul Martelletti jog to a sub-7 100k in Belfast despite having to weave around 50 runners on the track non-stop. Amazing.


  • #103
    Clearlier
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    They sure look good. Steve Way is well known, but I also saw Paul Martelletti jog to a sub-7 100k in Belfast despite having to weave around 50 runners on the track non-stop. Amazing.

    Steve and Paul are friends for quite a while. Paul is another ex-fattie (although he played rugby when he was younger) and was actually slightly ahead of Steve for a long time culminating in his running 2:16 in Berlin in 2011. He had hoped to go to London but was unable to persuade New Zealand to select him for the Olympics. They both turned their attention to the 50k world trophy in 2012 finishing 1st and 3rd. If I'm not mistaken it was the first time that Steve had finished ahead of Paul in a race although they had traded marathon PB's for a while. He is an inveterate racer and has already clocked up 50 races (on the track, cross country and road) so far this year over distances ranging from 800m to 100k.


  • #104
    Clearlier
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Looks like you can track runners here. It's a bit awkward but appears to be accurate.


  • #105
    Enduro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Enduro


    Was just looking at the entry list there, and people's all time PBs. We really do have quite a number of runners in Ireland who would comfortably be in the top half of the field (7 or 8 maybe). For the size of our population its quite remarkable. Pity we only have 2 out there, so won't get a team score.


  • #106
    ultraman1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    Clearlier wrote: »
    Looks like you can track runners here. It's a bit awkward but appears to be accurate.

    Irunfar on the Twitter machine are giving updates every lap


  • #107
    Clearlier
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    ultraman1 wrote: »
    Irunfar on the Twitter machine are giving updates every lap

    They've also got a section for comments on their website here. Looks like one or two have gone out quickly but there's a big pack running at 6:25 pace. Steve Way fell back from that pack when he took a toilet break.


  • #108
    Enduro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Enduro


    Good coverage on irunfar alright. Still very early days indeed. There's going to be a lot of blow-ups I reckon. Marty seemed to be tracking the leading female for the first 3 or 4 laps. Looks like good pacing there.


  • #109
    pistol_75
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭pistol_75


    Steve Way having stomach problems. 5 **** stops already.


  • #110
    menoscemo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    The Uk men are well out of it but it looks like they'll pick up 2 medals in the Women's with Ellie Greenwood (Comrades champion) currently in 1st after 80k and Jo Zarzewski (commonwealth marathoner for Scotland) well clear in 3rd.


  • #111
    menoscemo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Mens top 3:
    1st Max King (USA) 6:27 (national record)
    2nd Jonas Buud (sweden) 6:32
    3rd Jose Antonio Requejo (Spain) 6:37

    Japanese Athletes 4th and 5th


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  • #112
    menoscemo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Steve Way was 13th in 6:57


  • #113
    menoscemo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    1st Ellie Greenwood (UK) 7:31
    2nd Mochizuki (japan) 7:38
    3rd Jo Zakrewski (UK)7:42
    4th Jo Meek (UK) 7:43

    Good day for the UK Ladies.


  • #114
    ankers99
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭ankers99


    Keith just finished 8:32


  • #115
    ultraman1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    New 50km/50/mile/100 mile in roundwood https://m.facebook.com/groups/379988932178702/


  • #116
    ultraman1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    http://www.strava.com/activities/221733067
    From max king


  • #117
    Enduro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Enduro


    A nice little video here about this year's Irish 24 hour champs in Belfast...



  • #118
    b.harte
    Closed Accounts Posts: 524 ✭✭✭b.harte


    I see that someone has put up a page for ultra events in Ireland next year.
    details here:Facebook Link
    For those that don't have facebook accounts is this list available elsewhere, don't want to copy paste from someone else's hard work.


  • #119
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    The Irish team for the 24hrs championships has been announced.

    http://www.athleticsireland.ie/news/24-hour-world-championships-team-announced

    There are 2 boardsies amongst the Irish team. Since there are also some nominated running for other teams, boards.ie will be very well represented.

    The one glaring absentee is Donna McLoughlin, the Irish champion. I can only presume she declined the invitation.


  • #120
    Krusty_Clown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,533 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    The Irish team for the 24hrs championships has been announced.

    http://www.athleticsireland.ie/news/24-hour-world-championships-team-announced

    There are 2 boardsies amongst the Irish team. Since there are also some nominated running for other teams, boards.ie will be very well represented.

    The one glaring absentee is Donna McLoughlin, the Irish champion. I can only presume she declined the invitation.
    Are you running Thomas? For which team?


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  • #121
    Krusty_Clown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,533 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Krusty_Clown wrote: »
    Are you running Thomas? For which team?
    Scrap that. Just checked your blog. Congrats!


  • #122
    ultraman1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »

    The one glaring absentee is Donna McLoughlin, the Irish champion. I can only presume she declined the invitation.
    She didn't reach the distance standard required for selection


  • #123
    ultraman1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »

    There are 2 boardsies amongst the Irish team. Since there are also some nominated running for other teams, boards.ie will be very well represented.

    .
    afaik there is 3 other contributors from boards running in the open race,as well as donna mc..


  • #124
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    ultraman1 wrote: »
    She didn't reach the distance standard required for selection

    Ah! Didn't even think of that!
    Still weird that the reigning Irish champ doesn't make the cut, though.


  • #125
    ultraman1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/what-is-fatigue?intcid=mod-most-popular

    Some rehashed stuff ..but intetestin enuf


  • #126
    Enduro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Enduro


    Very interesting article there! Nice one.


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  • #127
    ultraman1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    http://www.ultrarunning.com/features/health-and-nutrition/the-emerging-science-on-fat-adaptation/


  • #128
    inigo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 649 ✭✭✭inigo


    ultraman1 wrote: »
    http://www.ultrarunning.com/features/health-and-nutrition/the-emerging-science-on-fat-adaptation/
    Brilliant! Thanks for that! I'm seriously considering making the "big switch" :D after a lot of reading and attending Barry Murray's talk in Blessington a month ago. I've asked Santa for a few books on the matter, including Atkins and Ketogenic... It sounds to me that Volek and Phinney's Low Carb/High Fat approach, Keto and Atkins are very similar if not the same :confused:, even though they seem to avoid mentioning Atkins in their books. Yet they have co-authored the book New Atkins for a New You... :rolleyes:

    Does anyone here do LCHF/Atkins/Keto? (I know some of you do ;)) What are your impressions? What sort of impact has it had on performance and general health? What sort of intensity sessions do you do?


  • #129
    Enduro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Enduro


    Was reading that yesterday. Very intesting article. Hopefully the promised papers will be peer reviewed and published soon.

    Of a similar ilk, this video of a Tim Noakes talk from a recent conference in Australia is worth a view...



    Inigo, I err in that general direction, but I'm far from a purist. What I would say though is that fat-adapting, and being able to run on empty (fat burn) for long periods of time is hugely benificial for ultras. As Noakes explains well in the videos, if you can tune up your fat burning engine you'll have more than enough ptential speed to compete (never mind complete) at endurance events without having to worry about glycogen depletion issues.


  • #130
    ECOLII
    Closed Accounts Posts: 558 ✭✭✭ECOLII


    Enduro wrote: »
    Was reading that yesterday. Very intesting article. Hopefully the promised papers will be peer reviewed and published soon.

    Of a similar ilk, this video of a Tim Noakes talk from a recent conference in Australia is worth a view...



    Inigo, I err in that general direction, but I'm far from a purist. What I would say though is that fat-adapting, and being able to run on empty (fat burn) for long periods of time is hugely benificial for ultras. As Noakes explains well in the videos, if you can tune up your fat burning engine you'll have more than enough ptential speed to compete (never mind complete) at endurance events without having to worry about glycogen depletion issues.

    No starting an argument opinions on diet here more a general question as I haven't found any article which raise the point but has Noakes ever dealt with the issue of raised cortisol levels in his talks? Would be generally interested to see his views as I was having a debate during the week regarding this and had a look around but couldn't find any articles dealing with the matter.


  • #131
    DogSlySmile
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭DogSlySmile


    inigo wrote: »
    Does anyone here do LCHF/Atkins/Keto? (I know some of you do ;)) What are your impressions? What sort of impact has it had on performance and general health? What sort of intensity sessions do you do?

    I tried it for a month. I know thats not long enough to say wether it worked or not but this was my experience of it:

    I reduced carbs hugely for a month. The only thing I ate that was high carb was an apple a day (gotta keep that doctor at bay ;)) and sweet potato a few times a week. Other than that I ate high fat and protein, plenty of meat, loads of eggs, salads, veg and walnuts as a snack.

    It was great fun for a while cooking everything in butter, eating a fry every morning and believing that this was good for me! Everything tasted great but I found going HFLC very restrictive and lacking variety. I got bored quickly eating eggs for breakfast and salads everyday for lunch.

    Similarly with running, the first couple of weeks on the diet were fine and didnt notice much difference. I dropped a few pounds and I was running high intensity sessions first thing in the morning on empty while full of energy. But for a couple of weeks after that I was very lethargic all the time mentally and physically.

    I decided to drop the diet for a couple of reasons; the first being that I'm not a top ultra runner. If I was, I would consider fully changing my diet for my running. Right now I'm a beginner running probably 4 ultras a year. Why would I change my diet for 365 days for something I'm on only utilize for 4 days in a year? This didnt make sense to me. (I know there are other benefits to eating a HfLC diet but I took it up for my running so thats what I'll talk about here).

    The second reason I dropped the diet is because I love food. I love eating. Dinner time is my favorite time of the day. I hated the fact that I was so restricted in what I was eating on the diet so I knocked it on the head.

    Thats just how I found it. Dont let me put you off it, but before you step into it maybe think first what you want to get out of it and are you prepared to make such a change.

    All the best with it.


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  • #132
    ultraman1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    http://masterstrack.com/2014/12/33461/

    Interesting article


  • #133
    ray lanigan
    Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭ray lanigan


    HELLO ALL ULTRA HEADS

    I was pretty sure the way my knees were this year I coulnt get back doing what I love and that's ultra running and mixing again with all ye mad sound heads.
    I just love this sport and the friendship and adventures along the way are unreal.
    Cant wait for 2015 to kick off.
    Keep up the fantastic work everyone.


  • #134
    ultrapercy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭ultrapercy


    Well done to Tom Frazer who set a new Irish 50k record of 2:58:00 knocking 22 secs off Mick Molloys record. I think Molloys record was a half way split in a 100k track race and has stood since 1979. Its good to see athletes of Frazers quality trying their hand at the ultra distance. There are now a number of Irish men with 2:20 or better Marathon quality who have ran good Ultra distance races. Id Imagine Steve Ways exploits will continue to inspire that type of runner to take the step up.


  • #135
    Enduro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Enduro


    This might be of interest to some of you... the Spine Race starts on Saturday.


  • #136
    kit3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    Enduro wrote: »
    This might be of interest to some of you... the Spine Race starts on Saturday.

    Best of luck


  • #137
    career move
    Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭career move


    Good luck Enduro


  • #138
    inigo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 649 ✭✭✭inigo


    Amazing challenge! Best of luck!


  • #139
    ray lanigan
    Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭ray lanigan


    Go get it EOIN.


  • #140
    dekbhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭dekbhoy


    good luck dude.... that would be some achievement if you can finish it. keep the green flag flying high.


  • #141
    ultraman1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    Twitter updates @thespinerace....
    *C001 has dropped out


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  • #142
    ray lanigan
    Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭ray lanigan


    lads just to tell you what it like overthere at the minute,have a friend that lives a half hour from the start and he runs a lot of fell running,hes a hardy lad and he walked up onto one of the climbs they go trough to watch them,he said he was blown over 3 times,one of the favorites gone not 2 hours in with a sprained ankle as he was blown over 4 times,he said the hail and wind and cold is unreal up there.


  • #143
    ultraman1
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    Enduro just into the lead asfaras I can make out..group of 3 few mins behind,,May be just after a check point...and is starting to snow..


  • #144
    ray lanigan
    Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭ray lanigan


    EOIN UP IN TO 2ND NOW,FECKING WATCHING THE TRACKING IS VERY ADDICTIVE,DIDNT GET MUCH SLEEP HAHA.


  • #145
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    The Spine race looks amazing.. Anyone have pictures of the current conditions on route?

    On another race, I was in Killarney at the weekend which reminded me of the Kerry Way Ultra.. has anyone on here run it?


  • #146
    anthony.whelan
    Registered Users Posts: 12 ✭anthony.whelan


    Online tracking is really making my monday a lot better! Glued to the tracker in work. Cannot comprehend the distance and the challenge involved! A real big boys race! Fantastic to see an Irish athlete leading the charge (although its no surprise). Well done Eoin!


  • #147
    ray lanigan
    Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭ray lanigan


    Massive well done to eoin keith finishing 2nd in the SPINE RACE,its not until you look closely and follow the race you begin to relize what a challenge they are taking,unreal.
    Nothing but respect EOIN.
    You done Ireland proud.


  • #148
    career move
    Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭career move


    ray lanigan wrote: »
    Massive well done to eoin keith finishing 2nd in the SPINE RACE,its not until you look closely and follow the race you begin to relize what a challenge they are taking,unreal.
    Nothing but respect EOIN.
    You done Ireland proud.

    +1 Phenomenal undertaking. Well done Eoin


  • #149
    Djoucer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭Djoucer


    Keith Whyte also won the Antarctic 100km today in 9 hours 26.


  • #150
    ray lanigan
    Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭ray lanigan


    Massive well done to DON HANNON on winning the ART O NEIL


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  • #151
    Enduro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Enduro


    Thanks for all the support all! A great race. Report to follow...

    What a week for ultra-running! Unreal time from Keith in Antartica, and a great battling win for Don in the AON.


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