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Cubicle Lime

  • 18-11-2014 11:28pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 334 ✭✭


    What are most lads using on cubicles. Hydrated lime here does a good job on keeping beds dry but it seems to be a lot more severe on the cows teats even when putting out the recommended amount.
    Have people tried the blends eg 20% hydrated and 80% cubicle lime.
    Are they effective?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,232 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    using Sanitise for last couple years .. very pleased


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭lefthooker


    Never used anything other than White Rhino and haven't had any teat troubles. Been thinking about trying Agrical this winter,how are people getting on with this product?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Copious amounts of White Rhino. Non iodine teat spray


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    Copious amounts of White Rhino. Non iodine teat spray

    Wow frazzled, that is clean. You must use a toothbrush?!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,823 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    how often do ye put the lime out? I use actisan twice a week and sawdust


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  • Registered Users Posts: 334 ✭✭C4d78


    whelan2 wrote: »
    how often do ye put the lime out? I use actisan twice a week and sawdust

    At least once a day. Maybe after calving. Twice if cubicles look dirty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,388 ✭✭✭visatorro


    don't use lime at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Night Nav


    Using Sanitise from my local Agritech supplier and delighted with it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    whelan2 wrote: »
    how often do ye put the lime out? I use actisan twice a week and sawdust

    OAD scrape bed TAD


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    Do ye lime all through winter, I start after christmas


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Copious amounts of White Rhino. Non iodine teat spray

    Do you have a cubicle brush for a tractor?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Use agrical here, scrape and lime morning and evening as have more cows than cubicles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Copious amounts of White Rhino. Non iodine teat spray
    How does it work on outdoor cubicles wouldn't it stick to the cows when wet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Do you have a cubicle brush for a tractor?

    No. Hand scraper and brush


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    whelan2 wrote: »
    how often do ye put the lime out? I use actisan twice a week and sawdust

    Milking OAD at the moment, so scraping and liming OAD as well, will go back to twice when cows start to calve in the spring. No liming when cows are dry, only the pre calving cubicles when they're starting to bag up again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    No. Hand scraper and brush

    PITA.
    I've a brush that's made locally that can clean all the cubicle if needed, but we only clean about 4 feet. A tiny tractor could use it. Some job and cheap.
    Cleans about 30 cubicles per minute.

    In fairness you seem to be as ocd as myself!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Dawggone wrote: »
    PITA.
    I've a brush that's made locally that can clean all the cubicle if needed, but we only clean about 4 feet. A tiny tractor could use it. Some job and cheap.
    Cleans about 30 cubicles per minute.

    In fairness you seem to be as ocd as myself!
    Is it hydraulic driven? I could yoke on small scraper tractor.

    If you're referring to how clean the cubicles are I need to fess up that pic was taken on the 6-7 day from brand new. OCD wouldn't be that big with me but I like cubicles clean


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    How does it work on outdoor cubicles wouldn't it stick to the cows when wet?

    Doesn't stick, well that you'd notice. Really dries out bed. Not much rain anyway.

    TBC 7
    Scc 153


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Is it hydraulic driven? I could yoke on small scraper tractor.

    If you're referring to how clean the cubicles are I need to fess up that pic was taken on the 6-7 day from brand new. OCD wouldn't be that big with me but I like cubicles clean

    I have to be a bit anal about cleanliness as can be housed in extreme heat.

    Yes hydraulically driven. I would post a photo only I can't figure out how.
    Some machine though and only about €1700 new.
    I absolutely wouldn't be without one. Often wondered why something like that not found in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Dawggone wrote: »
    I have to be a bit anal about cleanliness as can be housed in extreme heat.

    Yes hydraulically driven. I would post a photo only I can't figure out how.
    Some machine though and only about €1700 new.
    I absolutely wouldn't be without one. Often wondered why something like that not found in Ireland.

    To post pic, go to shed and start post click attach on boards and it'll ask if you if its an existing pic or do you want to take pic. Take pic with phone and post


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Frazz splash the cash and buy one of those Bob mans that are on done deal. Will brush the bed and put out the lime.
    The young lads could drive it seeing as there banned from sitting in the tractor :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    To post pic, go to shed and start post click attach on boards and it'll ask if you if its an existing pic or do you want to take pic. Take pic with phone and post

    Sorry total technophobe! It's beyond me.
    Google Rabaud balayeuse logette.


  • Registered Users Posts: 472 ✭✭Cow Porter


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Sorry total technophobe! It's beyond me.
    Google Rabaud balayeuse logette.

    looks good :cool: what are you bedding with??



    balayeuse_logette_rabaud_detouree.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Cow Porter wrote: »
    looks good :cool: what are you bedding with??



    balayeuse_logette_rabaud_detouree.jpg

    Chopped straw. Plenty straw here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Chopped straw. Plenty straw here.

    How often would you clean? Would he have much slurry off it or would be nearly be like a pile of dung?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,823 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    wonder how much they are or would it be quicker to just use a yard brush and a wheelbarrow and shovel? Can think of alot of other things i would buy before buying one of those


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    How often would you clean? Would he have much slurry off it or would be nearly be like a pile of dung?

    Clean once per day.
    It's slurry really as the straw is chopped to about 2 inches so mostly stays on cubicles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    whelan2 wrote: »
    wonder how much they are or would it be quicker to just use a yard brush and a wheelbarrow and shovel? Can think of alot of other things i would buy before buying one of those

    The French version is a gift.
    If I had free labour I'd still have it.
    We are getting well into the 21st century!:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    whelan2 wrote: »
    wonder how much they are or would it be quicker to just use a yard brush and a wheelbarrow and shovel? Can think of alot of other things i would buy before buying one of those

    I seen it down in tom Browne's in cork. Fanastic job I tought 250 cubicles cleaned and limed in a matter of minutee


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    whelan2 wrote: »
    wonder how much they are or would it be quicker to just use a yard brush and a wheelbarrow and shovel? Can think of alot of other things i would buy before buying one of those

    Easily picked up second hand for ~ €900.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭jus_tin4


    use white rhino, sanitise and agrical here, as a mix, never had a problem, and always pretty clean. used to use saw dust but that was stopped


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Clean once per day.
    It's slurry really as the straw is chopped to about 2 inches so mostly stays on cubicles.

    Would it stay on the cubicles enough not to murder an auto scraper & slurry channel?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    kowtow wrote: »
    Would it stay on the cubicles enough not to murder an auto scraper & slurry channel?

    No bother. When the straw is well chopped the cow doesn't drag much with her when reversing out of the cubicle.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Brown Podzol


    From the Magentadirect website. I use the 10% mix.


    When it comes to cubicle lime there are several grades on the market.

    GREY/GRITTY: The most basic ones are GREY in colour and if you rub some between your thumb and index finger you will feel a GRITTY TEXTURE. This grit can be hard on the hooves and will tend to sink to the bottom of the slurry tank. The pH of this lime is generally between 7.5 and 8.5 which doesn't kill bacteria but does soak up the moisture helping to prevent the bacteria growing.

    WHITE/FLOURY: The next type of lime on the market is WHITE in colour and like FLOUR in feel and touch. This tends to come from Quarries from Northern Ireland. They are generally run through a roller mill which gets rid of all the grit.

    Farmer feedback tells us that this limestone goes much further, they cover more cubicles with this product than with the grey type limes. This has a similar pH to the grey lime.

    HYDRATED MIX: There are a number of cubicle limes now on the market with a % of Hydrated Lime (Rhino or builders lime) mixed in. The % mix varies from 10% to 30% with both the grey and white limes used as the base material.

    The advantages of this type of product is that the pH levels are raised considerably (approx. 12.5) which will kill most bacteria. Farmer feedback tells us that the lower 10% hydrated lime mix results in the same bacteria killing power as the 30% but with a much lower level of skin/teat burning.

    FULLY HYDRATED: The final product is FULLY HYDRATED LIME which is excellent at killing bacteria but has the downside of been hard on the teats in certain situations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭Bazzer007


    Old thread I know but going to be ordering some lime soon. Maybe over the weekend if the bad weather keeps. Does anyone know the cost of buying a bag of Sanitise? I was going to try it out. Our else I'll stick with the usual the 10% mix. Also going to buy pre and post calver mineral blocks. I normally buy from Kerry Co Op but if anyone knows of a good deal going let me know. Cheers.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,258 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Any of ye have lime spreader for the cubicles and how good is it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    have a vink one that you carry

    it’s quite heavy so not great for the joints long term

    neighbours have a proper push along spreader from Connacht agri

    seen happy with it but he’s re wired it himself as wire was too light and burnt out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Another option would be to leave a tonne of lime somewhere in the middle of the shed if ye can, at least it would be a shorter trip back and forth and can carry smaller amounts then



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭timple23


    Can you regulate how much lime you give out or is it trial and error with the drill speed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    No, just walk speed with the vink

    think you can regulate the connacht agri one



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    I gave up using the vink spreader. Slower to fill slower to spread when full. Back to a bucket and jug



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,258 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Alot seem to have gone away from the vink.would be looking at something like the one on the bobman.planning to mount it on an old lawnmower



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