Cubicle Lime

C4d78 · 18-11-2014 11:28pm #1

What are most lads using on cubicles. Hydrated lime here does a good job on keeping beds dry but it seems to be a lot more severe on the cows teats even when putting out the recommended amount.
Have people tried the blends eg 20% hydrated and 80% cubicle lime.
Are they effective?

orm0nd · 18-11-2014 11:34pm

using Sanitise for last couple years .. very pleased

lefthooker · 18-11-2014 11:48pm

Never used anything other than White Rhino and haven't had any teat troubles. Been thinking about trying Agrical this winter,how are people getting on with this product?

frazzledhome · 18-11-2014 11:48pm

Copious amounts of White Rhino. Non iodine teat spray

Deepsouthwest · 19-11-2014 12:34am

frazzledhome wrote: »

Copious amounts of White Rhino. Non iodine teat spray

Wow frazzled, that is clean. You must use a toothbrush?!!

whelan2 · 19-11-2014 6:44am

how often do ye put the lime out? I use actisan twice a week and sawdust

C4d78 · 19-11-2014 8:29am

whelan2 wrote: »

how often do ye put the lime out? I use actisan twice a week and sawdust

At least once a day. Maybe after calving. Twice if cubicles look dirty

visatorro · 19-11-2014 8:35am

don't use lime at all.

Night Nav · 19-11-2014 8:56am

Using Sanitise from my local Agritech supplier and delighted with it

frazzledhome · 19-11-2014 8:58am

whelan2 wrote: »

how often do ye put the lime out? I use actisan twice a week and sawdust

OAD scrape bed TAD

keep going · 19-11-2014 9:10am

Do ye lime all through winter, I start after christmas

Dawggone · 19-11-2014 9:20am

frazzledhome wrote: »

Copious amounts of White Rhino. Non iodine teat spray

Do you have a cubicle brush for a tractor?

Milked out · 19-11-2014 9:37am

Use agrical here, scrape and lime morning and evening as have more cows than cubicles.

Sam Kade · 19-11-2014 10:04am

frazzledhome wrote: »

Copious amounts of White Rhino. Non iodine teat spray

How does it work on outdoor cubicles wouldn't it stick to the cows when wet?

frazzledhome · 19-11-2014 2:05pm

Dawggone wrote: »

Do you have a cubicle brush for a tractor?

No. Hand scraper and brush

Deepsouthwest · 19-11-2014 2:10pm

whelan2 wrote: »

how often do ye put the lime out? I use actisan twice a week and sawdust

Milking OAD at the moment, so scraping and liming OAD as well, will go back to twice when cows start to calve in the spring. No liming when cows are dry, only the pre calving cubicles when they're starting to bag up again.

Dawggone · 19-11-2014 2:16pm

frazzledhome wrote: »

No. Hand scraper and brush

PITA.
I've a brush that's made locally that can clean all the cubicle if needed, but we only clean about 4 feet. A tiny tractor could use it. Some job and cheap.
Cleans about 30 cubicles per minute.

In fairness you seem to be as ocd as myself!

frazzledhome · 19-11-2014 2:21pm

Dawggone wrote: »

PITA.
I've a brush that's made locally that can clean all the cubicle if needed, but we only clean about 4 feet. A tiny tractor could use it. Some job and cheap.
Cleans about 30 cubicles per minute.

In fairness you seem to be as ocd as myself!

Is it hydraulic driven? I could yoke on small scraper tractor.

If you're referring to how clean the cubicles are I need to fess up that pic was taken on the 6-7 day from brand new. OCD wouldn't be that big with me but I like cubicles clean

frazzledhome · 19-11-2014 2:25pm

Sam Kade wrote: »

How does it work on outdoor cubicles wouldn't it stick to the cows when wet?

Doesn't stick, well that you'd notice. Really dries out bed. Not much rain anyway.

TBC 7
Scc 153

Dawggone · 19-11-2014 2:30pm

frazzledhome wrote: »

Is it hydraulic driven? I could yoke on small scraper tractor.

If you're referring to how clean the cubicles are I need to fess up that pic was taken on the 6-7 day from brand new. OCD wouldn't be that big with me but I like cubicles clean

I have to be a bit anal about cleanliness as can be housed in extreme heat.

Yes hydraulically driven. I would post a photo only I can't figure out how.
Some machine though and only about €1700 new.
I absolutely wouldn't be without one. Often wondered why something like that not found in Ireland.

frazzledhome · 19-11-2014 2:34pm

Dawggone wrote: »

I have to be a bit anal about cleanliness as can be housed in extreme heat.

Yes hydraulically driven. I would post a photo only I can't figure out how.
Some machine though and only about €1700 new.
I absolutely wouldn't be without one. Often wondered why something like that not found in Ireland.

To post pic, go to shed and start post click attach on boards and it'll ask if you if its an existing pic or do you want to take pic. Take pic with phone and post

Greengrass1 · 19-11-2014 2:40pm

Frazz splash the cash and buy one of those Bob mans that are on done deal. Will brush the bed and put out the lime.
The young lads could drive it seeing as there banned from sitting in the tractor

Dawggone · 19-11-2014 2:41pm

frazzledhome wrote: »

To post pic, go to shed and start post click attach on boards and it'll ask if you if its an existing pic or do you want to take pic. Take pic with phone and post

Sorry total technophobe! It's beyond me.
Google Rabaud balayeuse logette.

Cow Porter · 19-11-2014 3:04pm

Dawggone wrote: »

Sorry total technophobe! It's beyond me.
Google Rabaud balayeuse logette.

looks good :cool: what are you bedding with??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBP-fO6U6WI

Dawggone · 19-11-2014 3:08pm

Cow Porter wrote: »

looks good :cool: what are you bedding with??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBP-fO6U6WI

Chopped straw. Plenty straw here.

Greengrass1 · 19-11-2014 3:10pm

Dawggone wrote: »

Chopped straw. Plenty straw here.

How often would you clean? Would he have much slurry off it or would be nearly be like a pile of dung?

Greengrass1 · 19-11-2014 3:15pm

http://www.donedeal.ie/milkingparlours-for-sale/bobman-cow-shed-cubicle-sweeper-bedder/7733480
The Irish equivilant

whelan2 · 19-11-2014 3:21pm

Greengrass1 wrote: »

http://www.donedeal.ie/milkingparlours-for-sale/bobman-cow-shed-cubicle-sweeper-bedder/7733480
The Irish equivilant

wonder how much they are or would it be quicker to just use a yard brush and a wheelbarrow and shovel? Can think of alot of other things i would buy before buying one of those

Dawggone · 19-11-2014 3:22pm

Greengrass1 wrote: »

How often would you clean? Would he have much slurry off it or would be nearly be like a pile of dung?

Clean once per day.
It's slurry really as the straw is chopped to about 2 inches so mostly stays on cubicles.

Dawggone · 19-11-2014 3:24pm

Greengrass1 wrote: »

http://www.donedeal.ie/milkingparlours-for-sale/bobman-cow-shed-cubicle-sweeper-bedder/7733480
The Irish equivilant

Trialled it. Overpriced sac du merde.

Dawggone · 19-11-2014 3:27pm

whelan2 wrote: »

wonder how much they are or would it be quicker to just use a yard brush and a wheelbarrow and shovel? Can think of alot of other things i would buy before buying one of those

The French version is a gift.
If I had free labour I'd still have it.
We are getting well into the 21st century!:)

Greengrass1 · 19-11-2014 3:44pm

whelan2 wrote: »

wonder how much they are or would it be quicker to just use a yard brush and a wheelbarrow and shovel? Can think of alot of other things i would buy before buying one of those

I seen it down in tom Browne's in cork. Fanastic job I tought 250 cubicles cleaned and limed in a matter of minutee

Dawggone · 19-11-2014 4:01pm

whelan2 wrote: »

wonder how much they are or would it be quicker to just use a yard brush and a wheelbarrow and shovel? Can think of alot of other things i would buy before buying one of those

Easily picked up second hand for ~ €900.

jus_tin4 · 19-11-2014 4:28pm

use white rhino, sanitise and agrical here, as a mix, never had a problem, and always pretty clean. used to use saw dust but that was stopped

kowtow · 19-11-2014 8:13pm

Dawggone wrote: »

Clean once per day.
It's slurry really as the straw is chopped to about 2 inches so mostly stays on cubicles.

Would it stay on the cubicles enough not to murder an auto scraper & slurry channel?

Dawggone · 19-11-2014 8:30pm

kowtow wrote: »

Would it stay on the cubicles enough not to murder an auto scraper & slurry channel?

No bother. When the straw is well chopped the cow doesn't drag much with her when reversing out of the cubicle.

Brown Podzol · 19-11-2014 9:12pm

From the Magentadirect website. I use the 10% mix.

When it comes to cubicle lime there are several grades on the market.

GREY/GRITTY: The most basic ones are GREY in colour and if you rub some between your thumb and index finger you will feel a GRITTY TEXTURE. This grit can be hard on the hooves and will tend to sink to the bottom of the slurry tank. The pH of this lime is generally between 7.5 and 8.5 which doesn't kill bacteria but does soak up the moisture helping to prevent the bacteria growing.

WHITE/FLOURY: The next type of lime on the market is WHITE in colour and like FLOUR in feel and touch. This tends to come from Quarries from Northern Ireland. They are generally run through a roller mill which gets rid of all the grit.

Farmer feedback tells us that this limestone goes much further, they cover more cubicles with this product than with the grey type limes. This has a similar pH to the grey lime.

HYDRATED MIX: There are a number of cubicle limes now on the market with a % of Hydrated Lime (Rhino or builders lime) mixed in. The % mix varies from 10% to 30% with both the grey and white limes used as the base material.

The advantages of this type of product is that the pH levels are raised considerably (approx. 12.5) which will kill most bacteria. Farmer feedback tells us that the lower 10% hydrated lime mix results in the same bacteria killing power as the 30% but with a much lower level of skin/teat burning.

FULLY HYDRATED: The final product is FULLY HYDRATED LIME which is excellent at killing bacteria but has the downside of been hard on the teats in certain situations.

Bazzer007 · 13-10-2017 1:14pm

Old thread I know but going to be ordering some lime soon. Maybe over the weekend if the bad weather keeps. Does anyone know the cost of buying a bag of Sanitise? I was going to try it out. Our else I'll stick with the usual the 10% mix. Also going to buy pre and post calver mineral blocks. I normally buy from Kerry Co Op but if anyone knows of a good deal going let me know. Cheers.

K.G. · 03-01-2022 12:16am

Any of ye have lime spreader for the cubicles and how good is it

GrasstoMilk · 03-01-2022 10:55am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118408563#Comment_118408563

have a vink one that you carry

it’s quite heavy so not great for the joints long term

neighbours have a proper push along spreader from Connacht agri

seen happy with it but he’s re wired it himself as wire was too light and burnt out

Mooooo · 03-01-2022 11:48am

Another option would be to leave a tonne of lime somewhere in the middle of the shed if ye can, at least it would be a shorter trip back and forth and can carry smaller amounts then