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06-11-2014 6:02pm#1
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Hi all, I have been on the council waiting list over 4 years now and although I have been ringing them every second day to find out of any updates, one person says my file was reviewed and just waiting on a house to pop up and the next person tells me 4 years is not a long time that I might have to wait another 4! I have seen a house in an area that iv chosen and rang to put my name in for it. All they said was its most likely vacent because it needs work done. It's been vacant for a long time and they don't seem to be even thinking about giving it to someone soon. Has anybody any recommendations on how I can push this further?
The average wait for housing is 10-12 years .
4 years is nothing at this stage all you can do is bide your time and hope something eventually comes up when it's your turn
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What do mean by most people?clearly a single mother with 4 children, or a person who is not able bodied would be better suited to a 3 bedroom house, than 2 able bodied people?
Unfortunately till the current situation is changed that allows in some cases 1/2 adults to hold onto 3,4 and in some 5 beds for life while they where originally housed on there needs ,
People forget kids grow up and move out ,
At this stage people housed should have there tenancy reviewed regularly till they no longer need multiple room properties ,
In the uk when all the private housing associations took over local authorities housing they literally had to knock on thousands of doors to find out if properties were under occupied
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Darren J. Prior wrote: »Hi, I am on the waiting list in Fingal and I want a place in my own part of Fingal Dublin 15. I am around number 400 in Blanchardstown as of last January. Does anyone know how much longer I can expect to wait? I will get an updated letter from the council in January telling me where I am on the list but I would love to know how much longer abouts. I.e will it be one year or two or considerably longer?
Probably a lot longer depending on your current situation .
How long are you currently waiting
If I remember correctly fingal only allocated something like 14 properties last year to tenants
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Mrs OBumble wrote: »Basically you're waiting for around 400 council tenants to either die or move somewhere else.
Council tenants don't move often, and you can probably say that ones who do are balanced our by the numbers who will come on to the list with more needs than you.
So to get an estimate:
Find out the number of council houses in the area
Find out the average annual death rate (will be hard to find out just for council tenants, maybe use the overall one for the country instead)
Multiply the two together:
eg 2000 houses x 3% death rate = 60 deaths
Divide that by the average number of people living in a council house
eg 60 / 1.5 = 40
(totally made up numbers, I have no idea what Ireland death-rate for adults is.)
Then divide your place on the queue by the number of deaths each year
eg 400 / 40 = 10 years to wait.
Of course this is very rough, and doesn't take account of council tenants having poorer-than-average health so being likely to die younger. Or the fact that you may need a specific type of house (eg 3-bed if you have a few kids). And it can be impacted if there are health-issues in the neighbourhood, eg a bad winter for the 'flu could see a few vacancies open up. Or the fact that not all people living in the house have rights to the tenancy if one person dies (partners do, kids don't).
But it gives you a general idea.
(I know some people will think this is horribly clinical, and that you can't possibly talk about passing like that. Well, sorry to offend you, but you can, and it's what planners have to do. What I've posted is basically what the situation boils down to in many council areas.)
That's it exactly it sounds cold but If local authorities are giving our 10-12 properties a year and your 400 -600 on the list .
Two factors matter deaths and evictions .
or in rare cases voluntary hand backs
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Mrs OBumble wrote: »Basically you're waiting for around 400 council tenants to either die or move somewhere else.
Council tenants don't move often, and you can probably say that ones who do are balanced our by the numbers who will come on to the list with more needs than you.
So to get an estimate:
Find out the number of council houses in the area
Find out the average annual death rate (will be hard to find out just for council tenants, maybe use the overall one for the country instead)
Multiply the two together:
eg 2000 houses x 3% death rate = 60 deaths
Divide that by the average number of people living in a council house
eg 60 / 1.5 = 40
(totally made up numbers, I have no idea what Ireland death-rate for adults is.)
Then divide your place on the queue by the number of deaths each year
eg 400 / 40 = 10 years to wait.
Of course this is very rough, and doesn't take account of council tenants having poorer-than-average health so being likely to die younger. Or the fact that you may need a specific type of house (eg 3-bed if you have a few kids). And it can be impacted if there are health-issues in the neighbourhood, eg a bad winter for the 'flu could see a few vacancies open up. Or the fact that not all people living in the house have rights to the tenancy if one person dies (partners do, kids don't).
But it gives you a general idea.
(I know some people will think this is horribly clinical, and that you can't possibly talk about passing like that. Well, sorry to offend you, but you can, and it's what planners have to do. What I've posted is basically what the situation boils down to in many council areas.)Probably a lot longer depending on your current situation .
How long are you currently waiting
If I remember correctly fingal only allocated something like 14 properties last year to tenants
Cheers! I will get a letter in January telling me what number I am on the list again. I will find it very interesting to find out!
I would think that a tiny number of council houses and apartments (I am for a 1 bed apartment) are made available every year but I have gone up the list a lot in the last few years, and given that there are thousands on the list it should be moving faster, otherwise most people will be waiting for 20 plus years to get a place.
Does anybody know what council apartments there are in Blanchardstown. Parnell, Waterville and Avondale, I think (some of these the council own)- are there any other places does anyone know?0 -
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B.A._Baracus wrote: »10 to 12 years for Dublin?
That is an insane amount of time. A persons life can change so much in those years.
One dublin list based off current allocations of less than 10 properties per year it will take 40 years to clear one particular list .
We're 8 years on the sdcc list we've given up seen an apartment before our 2 kids are grown up
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Darren J. Prior wrote: »Cheers! I will get a letter in January telling me what number I am on the list again. I will find it very interesting to find out! I would think that a tiny number of council houses and apartments (I am for a 1 bed apartment) are made available every year but I have gone up the list a lot in the last few years, and given that there are thousands on the list it should be moving faster, otherwise most people will be waiting for 20 plus years to get a place.
Does anybody know what council apartments there are in Blanchardstown. Parnell, Waterville and Avondale, I think (some of these the council own)- are there any other places does anyone know?
Lots of houses in Wellview boarded up atm and being renovated for people to move into. One was given out on Friday (I know the family who got it). There are about 7 more to be handed out over the next few months. Some are refused once or twice before someone takes them (in the case of a four bed it was refused twice before someone finally moved into it).0 -
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Darren J. Prior wrote: »Cheers! I will get a letter in January telling me what number I am on the list again. I will find it very interesting to find out! I would think that a tiny number of council houses and apartments (I am for a 1 bed apartment) are made available every year but I have gone up the list a lot in the last few years, and given that there are thousands on the list it should be moving faster, otherwise most people will be waiting for 20 plus years to get a place.
Does anybody know what council apartments there are in Blanchardstown. Parnell, Waterville and Avondale, I think (some of these the council own)- are there any other places does anyone know?
Don't believe where you're told you are on the list. I did for years, and then one year rang and was told 'oh we don't actually have a list as such'. It's not an honest waiting list, people go to politicians and get skipped up. I waited 10 years and then gave up.0 -
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